We are about to engage in a terrible war in the middle east

[TwixVoy]

Right now the whole monetary system is broken. Banks which are bankrupt are being told by central banks just to pretend that they have money and by the way here is $12 trillion dollars to hand out to yourselves in order to make you feel better.

The situation is getting grim and they are not talking about it. The debt load is now beyond anyone's being able to pay it back. We are about to engage in a terrible war in the middle east. Don't be naive folks. This troop build up is not just for fun. For some reason I keep having flash backs to the build up before Iraq.

I do not see the situation continuing as it is. When the FEDERAL RESERVE trys to take our economy off life support they are going to find out it died months ago. I suspect our government has decided that the solution is war.

They are asking if we are going to slip back into recession. WE NEVER CAME OUT OF IT!!!!!!!!!! Just look around. Look at unemployment. This is nothing but a liquidity rally in the market. The economy is not getting better. It is actually worse because of the enormous debt that will weigh on the economy like an elephant. The wall street liars are getting rich off the great lie when the truth is the great depression is still coming. It was only delayed. I have never seen such a B.S. talked up rally in all my life. Once interest rates start to rise this stock market bubble is going to bust once again. The dollar is in serious trouble and rates need to go up.

I suspect this escalation is a precursor to invasion of another middle eastern nation. This goal being the theory that an all out war will "fix" the economy and allow america to continue to consume.

[NYCGirl]

1. We're already engaged in it, in case you haven't noticed. Have been for years. NT

[TwixVoy]

4. Smart ass

I am talking about a major escalation that is coming.

[NYCGirl]

5. How nice that you changed your inflammatory post just as most everybody else in

this post was agreeing with me.

[TwixVoy]

11. It's too bad you never changed yours

[Taverner]

2. Engage? How about 'continue'?

[AndrewP]

3. Continued, not about to engage

[FrenchieCat]

6. We've fucking been there....so the question is where have you been?

While the Afghanistan War continued for 8 years, it wasn't that big an issue,
and in fact, it appears that if Obama wouldn't have called for this formal review,
no one would have really given a shit if we would have continued status quo
for a few more years.

But, since OBama decided to call a review, to actually come up with a new strategy
for Afghanistan in order to take action and wrap up this protracted war,
now he is the bad guy? He is being treated as though he is declaring war,
when in reality is that he is shifting strategy to clean up this shit left behind.

How is it that those who are so opposed like crazy to this war today, didn't seem to give much of a shit in October, although the war was going on right under their noses, and had been for 8 years, without an end in sight or a strategy....?

Why is it that when Obama determined to provide us with a strategy and an end game, all of the sudden
the natives are carrying their head in their hand cause their hair is on fire, acting like this man started this war.

If someone is going to tell me that there is more concern because 30,000 additional troops are going in, the question then become, would it have been any better if the 30,000 saw combat through rotation rather than coming in as added force? And why didn't the soldiers who are already there without the 30,000 count for less?

Last question: What do you think the hysterical dramatics and insensed outrage of what we have always known about what Obama would do, really truly about?

[TwixVoy]

8. LOL what a fool

I have to say maybe I am naive, but I never knew Obama would do this. Hell I honestly believed we would not escalate. I admit I was wrong about that.

You claim to have known. That makes you a step ahead of me on the war front. I have to say I honestly believed an option would be found to revive the economy other than all out war. Perhaps I was a little too optimistic.

[FrenchieCat]

14. Yep....you must be a fool then

Cause if you were being honest,
you post wouldn't read as it does.

I'm not going for the hokey-dok I'm shocked and innocent bullshit...


Here's how you sound to those of use left here still sane:

"How could he? I didn't think he would do what he said he'd do!
Hell, I won't even need or want to hear what he has to say....cause I'm just in Shock.
Honest! Oh Dear!"

Sounds stupid doesn't it?

[TwixVoy]

16. Yup I am a fool

but I am one step ahead in seeing this for what it is now.... The precursor to invasion of another middle eastern nation that isn't even on the radar right now. It will enable us to continue to consume with the blood of innocents from a foreign nation.

[FrenchieCat]

23. Fools are rarely one step ahead, they are usually two steps behind....

scratching their asses and trying to figure out what happened and where'd everybody go?
Then they see a bus full of Kool Kids, and they hop on
as to not get left behind.

On the bus, The Kool Kids are tormenting anyone who's opinion differs from them,
while pulling their hair and calling them baby killers, and making shit up about their mamas.

I've seen this entire movie playing on Du before.....back when I was in the 5th grade.

The Kool Kids ain't no better than the teabaggers; almost deranged, but just in other ways.
Inflexible ideologues who refuse to admit the Grey, cause then they wouldn't have any reason
to cry and moan and just show general displeasure about anything and everything.

[bring_em_home_bush]

7. Afghanistan is not in "the middle east" -- it's in south-central Asia

otherwise pretty spot on.

[TwixVoy]

10. I'm not talking about Afghanistan....

it seems pretty clear to me at this point that we will be going in to at least one more nation in the middle east.....

[bring_em_home_bush]

18. Ok, sorry, I guess I didn't get that from your post

Which nation in the middle east do you think we will be going into? Iran? That would certainly be an even greater disaster.

[TwixVoy]

20. Honestly I have no clue, just a gut feeling based on what I see happening with the economy

However if I HAD to guess I would say Iran as well.... primary reason would be all the attention the MSM has been giving them over the past year with the intent of making Americans fear they may be a threat.

I agree it would be a major cluster fu**, but I think that would be the intent....

[bring_em_home_bush]

26. That does always seem to be the intent -- the business of America is the war business

[Greyhound]

9. Hey that's the plan, re-inflate the bubble with what we can borrow so they can steal that, too.

Military misadventures are a very neat way to hide enormous graft. You get a complete lack of accounting and a big flashy show to distract any questions...

[hayu_lol]

13. Let us return to basics for a bit...

This is not a war. Has more to do with the pipelines crossing the country than anything else.

To win a war, you must first declare it a war. Your next step is to take and control territory and the people in that territory. You do not just wander up this road or that shooting at targets of opportunity. You take the land.

We have not done this since WWII.

We have no such goals in this case. We have very poor planning. As to the people, you could line up 100 men in a long line. The fighters look just like the guy who runs the corner store unless he has a weapon strapped to his back. You cannot fight a military that looks like everyone in the country.

We are not taking territory. We are not controlling any of the people. What is our goal?

[TwixVoy]

15. "We are not taking territory. We are not controlling any of the people. What is our goal?"

It seems to me that this is coming. I suspect this escalation is a precursor to invasion of another middle eastern nation. This goal being the theory that an all out war will "fix" the economy and allow america to continue to consume.

[spanone]

12. we are already engaged in two terrible wars in the middle east

[TwixVoy]

17. No shit and my point is get ready for number 3

[spanone]

28. i hope your paranoia passes soon.

[bring_em_home_bush]

32. and I hope you will explain what "2 wars" we are fighting in the Middle East

of course, that would be common courtesy, or something, which apparently is not extended to those of us with low post counts (despite longtime memberships).

[bring_em_home_bush]

19. What "2 wars in the middle east?"

Only Iraq, so far?

[RedCloud]

21. Sweden should ask for the Nobel to be returned.

[FrenchieCat]

24. Norway?

[jpak]

22. What a steaming crock of utterly STOOPID horseshit

"I suspect this escalation is a precursor to invasion of another middle eastern nation."

Dumbest most ignorant statement evah.

:rofl:

Oh yeah

Afghanistan is in SW Asia - NOT the Middle East

I'm sure this comes as a surprise to you.

:rofl:

The economy IS turning around.

Obama took an economy shrinking at -6.4% in January 2009 and turned it into an economy growing at +2.4% in the 3rd quarter.

Leading economic indicators indicate growth and an an improving employment picture in the 1st quarter 2010 - not a downturn.

I'm sure this comes as a surprise to you too.

:rofl:

U R 0 4 3

:rofl:

[TwixVoy]

25. Actually I was referring to after Iraq

as Iraq was our last invasion. Of course I am sure that is a surprise to you.

"Obama took an economy shrinking at -6.4% in January 2009 and turned it into an economy growing at +2.4% in the 3rd quarter."

That's because trillions of fed dollars have been injected. With out that money going in we would be looking at an all out depression. The fundamentals have NOT been fixed.

[jpak]

27. No you were not - and you have NO evidence to support that utterly STOOPID statement

Oh yeah - Obama's stimulus bill worked better than they projected, according today's report by the CBO.

try again

:rofl:

[TwixVoy]

29. Lol you are such a fool

I am bookmarking your post to laugh about 6 months from now when the DOW is at 6000. I will bring it up for all to see.....

[jpak]

31. good luck with that!

:rofl:

[90-percent]

30. Instead of a war

Can't we just find an active volcano somewhere and make 10% of those that turn 18 years old just walk right in to it every day?

That would cut out the military industrial congressional complex middle man and leave more money left over for those that weren't sacrificed to at least get decent health care insurance!

-90% Jimmy

Blessed are the patriotic young people that gave their lives to the volcano so that we can enjoy our freedoms. The price of freedom isn't free!