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Tue Dec-01-09 07:22 PM
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Personal observation about global warming... |
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Last year on this day we were up to our knees in snow, here in Wisconsin.
Today?
53 degrees and no snow whatsoever anyplace in Wisconsin.
30 years ago we would have had several snowstorms by now.
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Tue Dec-01-09 07:25 PM
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1. However, that's not evidence of global warming. |
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Edited on Tue Dec-01-09 07:26 PM by PeaceNikki
And sadly, doubters like to use similar (but opposite) "evidence" to disprove.
It's really about the entire Earth's AVERAGE air and water temperature changes.
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Tue Dec-01-09 07:29 PM
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2. Just Came Back From The Netherlands and Germany...... |
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unseasonably warm weather in Amsterdam, Dusseldorf and Berlin. I took all the wrong clothes. People walking around the Christmas Markets in Germany in shirtsleeves and sweaters. One day in Berlin it hit 56F. I've been there around the same time in 2002 and 2006 and froze.
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Tue Dec-01-09 07:31 PM
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3. So, will a typical Wisconsin resident consider the warm, dry fall a good thing or a bad thing? |
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Tue Dec-01-09 07:34 PM
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If it fucks up our wildlife and farming, that's bad.
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Tue Dec-01-09 07:41 PM
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8. Thanks. I have no idea how local snow accumulation affects farming or wildlife there. |
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I do know there are a lot of ways farms can get screwed up by the weather. Too much or too little of anything, or things happening at the wrong time.
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Tue Dec-01-09 07:51 PM
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9. Actually we had a VERY wet and cold October; dry and warm November |
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Very weird. Waiting for the lakes to freeze so I can start ice fishing.
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Tue Dec-01-09 07:36 PM
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5. We had the coolest and wettest October... |
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on record in Oklahoma. November: warm and dry. Very odd weather.
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Tue Dec-01-09 07:37 PM
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6. I'm sure the hoaxer/freepers will have a good comeback for this one |
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Tue Dec-01-09 07:39 PM
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7. Personal observations have nothing to do with actual science. |
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Tue Dec-01-09 07:53 PM
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10. It shouldn't be used to try to prove or disprove global warming. |
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Edited on Tue Dec-01-09 07:54 PM by PeaceNikki
And I am bothered to the nth degree when anyone tries to use local weather as an indicator (see: Sean Hannity).
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Tue Dec-01-09 08:39 PM
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On a global scale, it is irrefutable that the world is getting gradually warmer. I don't presume to know the root causes of this phenomenon, but it's happening. Whenever someone says "It was colder/warmer in MY neck of the woods...", I want to punch that person in the nutsack.
Fact: The polar ice caps are melting. I can't say WHY they're melting, or that we can do anything about it, but THEY'RE FUCKING MELTING. How about we pollute less and conserve more and see if that helps? This may or may not help, but the worst thing that can happen is less pollution and less waste. Why are people against this? (Answer: they're dicks)
Fact: The average global temperature is rising. Sean Hannity keeps lying about this, but he's only considering the temperature in his own back yard. That (among other things) makes him an stupid hairy asshole. No real scientist who is worth a shit can pick & choose data.
Fact: Glaciers are melting at an alarming rate. Look it up, dicks. It's happening. Again, I can't say for certain that we're causing it, but It's Fucking Happening. Maybe we can't do anything about it, but we shouldn't we at least try? At worst, we pollute less (a good thing, right?) and perhaps we can come up with some ideas for cheaper power that doesn't rely on the good will (!) of nations who don't particularly care for us.
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Tue Dec-01-09 08:29 PM
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That's why I only called it a personal observation.
Now quit giving yourself a concussion jumping to conclusions. :-)
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Tue Dec-01-09 08:52 PM
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14. But your observation isn't at all related to global warming. |
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You associated the two. He didn't jump to conclusions.
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Tue Dec-01-09 07:55 PM
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11. Aaargh. That observation is not indicative of global warming. |
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It's as dumb as the deniers insisting that every early snowfall is evidence that there is no climate change.
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