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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:14 AM
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Me and my brother against my cousin; me, my brother, and my cousin against the other.
This tribal thinking is why we will never "win" in the Middle East..(or in any insurgency, just about anywhere)

from:

Europe Shall Bleed, Once Again
http://www.islam-watch.org/AmilImani/Europe-Shall-Bleed.htm
by Amil Imani
main site:
http://www.islam-watch.org/iw-new/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&Itemid=59

24 Jun, 2008

Me and my brother against my cousin; me, my brother, and my cousin against the other. This is an old Muslim saying and Muslims live by this motto.

To be sure the people of the "religion of peace" find the world full of “other,” to oppress and kill, both within as well as without the Islamic Ummah.



Civilized peoples’ idea of the “other” is the exact opposite of that of Muslims. All over Europe, for one, people have been singing the praises of multiculturalism; the idea that everybody should bend over backwards to accommodate the different in society. However, the different in this case are the hordes of invasive Muslims, with their rigid medieval ideas about every aspect of private and public life.

To Muslims, anyone who doesn’t toe the line of Islam, as each sect defines it, is the “other” and fair game as kafir (blasphemous; unbeliever in Allah). The “other” covers a broad spectrum: the six billion or so people of the world who are not Muslims, including the Jews and Christians who are considered Dhimmis. Every one of the numerous sects and sub-sects of Islam consider every other sect and sub-sect as “other” to be punished and even eliminated.

Centuries old Sunni-Shiite bloodletting is only one glaring example of the Islamic unceasing animosity for the “other.” Yet, these devotees of Allah never lose sight of the most important objective: destruction of everything non-Islamic and imposition of Islam on everyone and every land. Just recall what the Taliban did to the statues of Buddha, among other things; what the Wahabis are doing throughout the world; and, what the bomb-seeking Shiite mullahs of Iran are doing to the Baha’is in Iran in relentless race to dominate the region, destroy Israel, and later rule the world. The sword that Muhammad wielded to kill all those who didn’t see things his way has never been sheathed by his followers. As soon as Muhammad died his devoted adherents carried on with his practice of killing. Killing gets merit points for Muslims. The Commander of the Faithful, Ali, the cousin and son-in-law of Muhammad, was knighted by none other than Muhammad for beheading, some 600 unbelievers in one day with his own sword, assisted only by one other killer. Ali’s blood-drenched sword had its own title, Zulfaghar.

The Muslims' killing campaign did not end with their second defeat at the gates of Vienna in 1683. Their eviction from Spain was a temporary forced retreat. But now the Muslims have, in huge numbers, penetrated the gates of every city and town of Europe without yet having to use their swords.


The Islam in Europe blog reports on the numbers and percentages of Muslims in many European cities. Here are some of the statistics:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:28 AM
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1. I worry about Europe right now
you can't have benevolent inclusiveness if the group you're trying to include doesn't like you and doesn't want you. The situation in Europe is getting extreme.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:35 AM
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2. and there is an age issue as well
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 07:37 AM by SoCalDem
The median age of "native" Europeans is not all that youthful, and the immigrant population has LARGE families.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aging_of_Europe


someone this morning on MSNBC said that the median age in Afghanistan was 17..and that the life expectancy was only 44:(.

Couple that with the fact that women/girls are basically non-participants in society except for having lots of babies, and it's not hard to see a problem looming. especially when most are illiterate.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 07:51 AM
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3. An old lion of a Poli Sci professor told me that one
And attributed it to the Matriarch of a Native American tribe.

A universal, indeed.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:26 AM
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4. Humans are tribal.. modern humanity keeps trying to "not do it", but we fail
over and over..
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