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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:10 PM Original message |
2 nuke plant events - France and Japan |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. Once again, the most deadly energy technology in history, in the universe, vomits death |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Drama much? LOL |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Yeah - if you think mutations and cancer and death are dramatic |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. How many mutations, cancers and deaths have been linked to working at a nuclear power plant? |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Baloney, nuke workers get ten times the dose of civilians and civilians are getting dosed every day |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. And you still haven't addressed anything I said in my post. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Really? These links are not very relevant. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. People can read the links and judge for themselves and mammograms can cause cancer |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. As usual, you divorce the facts from the context |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. No, I don't. EVERY exposure creates additional risk of harm |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Really? |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Yes Really! Cancer grows slowly so people don't "keel over dead" for a while... |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 03:49 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Well, from the way you make it sound |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
63. here is one study showing more than 60 Million cancer deaths from nuclear ... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. So because there is nuclear radiation in the environment... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #69 |
83. That is what the studies prove: that nuclear power plant radiation causes cancer |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. You did not answer my question. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. yeah i did |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 07:04 AM Response to Reply #63 |
111. no...that study references a MODEL... |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #35 |
56. true - every exposure is added to the total |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 07:08 AM Response to Reply #11 |
112. For example, Dr. David Banner: physician; scientist. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #112 |
116. And don't forget Peter Parker... |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
67. well...if you count the movies(as some people probably do), then LOTS. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. "If"?! Don't you mean "When"? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. It multiplies the sun many times? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
61. Science is hard. n/t |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
68. It (man made nuclear radiation) is a multiple of the amount of radiation you get from the sun |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. So if I go stand next to a nuclear reactor... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #72 |
84. It depends on how close you are to the radiation spewing from it... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #84 |
101. Wait, so you honestly believe that a properly functioning nuclear plant... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Yes ALL commercial reactors have radiation emissions and effluents |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. LMAO |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. Unrec... |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
66. Yeah, ensho like to post these for some reason. Hardly any of them qualify as a "nuke event" |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's a good thing we have humans around to take care of these problems. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
41. What problems to worry about? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 02:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
92. Most Gen II & all Gen III plants will shut down on their own. |
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Sirveri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 05:09 AM Response to Reply #92 |
96. thats not technically correct. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Agreed it is a generalization. |
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Merchant Marine (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. Radiation does not work like you seem to think it works n/t |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. really? |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. this was in reply to post #6 |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Not a single word in this thread... |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I post all the time about toxic coal plants. this thread is about nuke |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Really? I can't ever remember reading one of your posts about a Coal Plant Event...nt |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. And every day there are thousands of new "Solar Power Events" that she never points out. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Exactly... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. again, baloney. BOTH nukes and coal plants spew toxic death |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Hyperbole |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Hyperbole my ass/ Strontium 90 and radioiodine are NOT like solar rays |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. You don't know how a nuclear plant works do you |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #37 |
54. And the vast, vast majority of Sr90 contamination today... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
80. You have a source for that and... |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. NRC Data Sheet on the Tooth Fairy Project |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 01:59 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. lies and damn lies---more industry propaganda |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #91 |
98. I look forward to more of your delusional ramblings..nt |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #91 |
100. Of course it can't be nuclear weapons because that wouldn't support your agenda. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. If you don't provide a link it is harder to debunk your nifty graph chart |
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MyNameGoesHere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
107. I happen to work for French company |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 02:18 AM Response to Reply #107 |
122. Then you must have seen this report on the failure of French nukes |
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whistler162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
14. Next time skip the half reliable source |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. You know, the link is to a GREAT source for alerting about events which MAY be serious |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Serious being the key word...nt |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
16. Sounds to me like proper proceedure, training and respose makes these plant quite safe... |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Yeah, imagine that. The safeguards in place prevented something from going wrong. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Something DID go wrong and the workers who get sick from the exposure |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. You still haven't answered my original question. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. The European Study on Radiation Risk conclusions (link) |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. 10 million, 10 billion and you cant produce one death certificate |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. That is bullshit too |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
90. Yeppers, One name is what you owe. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Be nice if you read it |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. I read it - it is from ALL sources: nuke tests AND power plants |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 03:59 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I read it again |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. I live right near a nuclear power plant. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. You will regret it |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 04:11 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. One example is hardly a scientific study |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
74. Here's a study your search missed: try a better search |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 04:09 AM Response to Reply #74 |
110. Well, there where other plants where |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 07:23 AM Response to Reply #110 |
113. shhhhh...you're making valid points |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 02:25 AM Response to Reply #110 |
123. Many infant death rates |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #123 |
129. As I said before, |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
82. The rates were high back in the 90s. In the last decade, it dropped. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
30. Unrec. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 04:21 AM Response to Reply #30 |
94. Instantly. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
33. The study anyone who is not sure (or who is sure it is safe) should read on nuclear power |
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thelordofhell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
38. Radiation leak in Japan means only ONE thing.......... |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
42. OMG!! COME QUICKLY!! WOLVES ARE EATING MY SHEEP!! |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-02-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Strontium 90 causes bone cancer. tissue cancer and leukemia |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 04:08 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. "EVERY NUCLEAR POWER PLANT PRODUCES AND EMITS THIS SHIT AND IT IS KILLING US ALL" |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
85. It is killing us slowly so ... |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. You never fail to make me laugh. |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
53. Breaking: Death count (employees + civilians) just announced. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Well said...nt |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Nope: see this: Cancer, miscarriages, hypothyroidism, mongoloidism, leukemia, birth defects |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Really? Was that "MILLIONS" in Cruas (France) or "MILLIONS" in Hamaoka (Japan)? |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #62 |
81. Millions of cancer deaths from radioactive waste/emissions |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 07:25 AM Response to Reply #81 |
114. you keep referencing a study that references a MODEL |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
57. K&R. Because too many want to pretend nukes are safe. //nt |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Thanks - I posted the European Study so that folks can inform themselves |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #60 |
102. And look at the success of Nuclear Industry PR |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
58. Once again: European Study conclusions on nuclear deaths/cancers infant mortality/miscarriages |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Please, by all means, compare your nuke data with that... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. I am not comparing nukes to coal plants, BUT... |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
64. Thanks, ensho, more "NUKE EVENTS" that are much ado about nothing. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Fun to watch workers exposed to deadly radiation? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Your response is evidence that you DID NOT READ THE LINKS..... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. They received what amounts to an ANNUAL dose of radiation from the nuke plant |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 02:26 AM Response to Reply #77 |
93. liquid radiation? solid radiation? really. In what fantasyland physics book did you learn that. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 04:44 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Shit like that is why Liberation Angel is NEVER to be taken seriously |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. You know |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #93 |
105. The radiation is IN the liquid and solid nuclear emissions and effluents from nuclear power plants |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #105 |
120. No, you just put it |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #77 |
119. You didn't read in enough detail |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #119 |
131. Radiation is IN the liquid effluents and waste water from nuke plants |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
75. Wow. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Excellent post... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Oh please |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 07:27 AM Response to Reply #79 |
115. oh, but the study you reference only has the PUREST of intent |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-03-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. You cite CERRIE which, according to this report, are industry hacks |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:55 AM Response to Reply #78 |
97. Bear in mind that you just called Chris Busby an ex-"industry hack" |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 01:08 AM Response to Reply #97 |
109. I did not, there are dissenters in Cerrie as there have been in the NRC |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #109 |
117. Did I not just see a subject line like this: |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Kick for another excellent post in this thread...nt |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 02:08 AM Response to Reply #117 |
121. Well, it seems like you have a horse in this race...promoting nukes and disparaging critics |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #121 |
124. Before you brought all this up I'd never heard of ECRR, Busby, CERRIE, etc. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Okay, but using as justification the one clear nuclear hack as reliable is disingenuous |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #125 |
128. And the reason the Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth folks went along was? |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. The ENTIRE committee was threatened with Defamation Lawsuits if they didn't go along |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
126. Government gags experts over nuclear plant risks (Re: Cerrie report) |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Guardian article: (Former Environmental Minister) Meacham Rails at "Biased" Cancer report |
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