Cali_Democrat
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:24 PM
Original message |
If Obama didn't escalate the war in Afghanistan, he would be a liar. |
|
He promised to escalate the war in Afghanistan during his run for president and he is simply fulfilling his promise.
|
bigjohn16
(747 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:28 PM
Response to Original message |
1. He was wrong during the campaign and he's wrong now. |
|
I'm ok with him being a liar on this one.
|
tekisui
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:30 PM
Response to Original message |
2. A lot has changed in that year. |
Cali_Democrat
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #2 |
3. Afghanistan was a quagmire then as it is now. |
|
The only difference is that we're seeing more loss of life.
|
eilen
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:33 PM
Response to Original message |
4. He also was going to rescind the Bush tax cuts and rengotiate NAFTA. |
|
Close Gitmo and get us out of Iraq in 6 months.
|
mike_c
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:33 PM
Response to Original message |
5. so instead he's a warmonger and a criminal.... |
|
That's a major improvement over failing to keep a campaign pledge. I hate it when politicians do that.
Just in case it's needed: :sarcasm:
|
DebbieCDC
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:33 PM
Response to Original message |
6. No - he'd be a courageous president admitting a mistake |
|
and getting our contry back on track.
|
optimator
(606 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:35 PM
Response to Original message |
7. he promised no insurance mandates |
Amonester
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:35 PM
Response to Original message |
8. He did it last summer, so your point is moot. |
|
Or maybe that surge wasn't big enough for u? :shrug:
|
QC
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:37 PM
Response to Original message |
9. He also promised to renegotiate NAFTA, support ENDA and EFCA, end DADT, |
|
and so on and so on.
This thread has already been posted about a thousand times since last night. How about you wait until the central committee sends out the new talking points--this one is really stale.
|
Cali_Democrat
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
|
I'll be sure to keep you up to date.
Alpha Tango Bravo Echo
Over and out.
|
Starry Messenger
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:39 PM
Response to Original message |
10. Oh for goodness sake. |
|
All politicians lie. :eyes: I was hoping this was one of the things he was lying about to appeal to the hawks. I was wrong and I can live with it, but please don't tell me that shit is puppies and ice cream.
|
leftstreet
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #10 |
janedum
(374 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #16 |
18. Awwwwwe! What a cute little Pom Pom!! |
boston bean
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:42 PM
Response to Original message |
11. He lied about some other shit, didn't seem to matter to many here.... |
|
lgbt rights for instance....
|
Cali_Democrat
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #11 |
19. Less is better in this case, right? |
|
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 08:22 PM by Cali_Democrat
Not every promise can be kept, but its better if at least some of them are kept so the prez can preserve his integrity.
|
BeatleBoot
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:46 PM
Response to Original message |
|
The speech last night should have been given 8 years ago.
Bush took his eye off the ball and put us in Iraq instead.
I actually give Obama a lot of credit for handling what was handed to him by a bunch of sorry ass losers called the GOP.
|
mix
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:47 PM
Response to Original message |
14. I love a good lie. nt |
gleaner
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:49 PM
Response to Original message |
15. He promised to continue this war .... |
|
I don't remember anything about him promising to escalate it. That is more recent. Why should you think it is a good thing that he fulfill his promise to keep fighting in Afghanistan, and indeed keep pushing more and more people into harm's way, when he hasn't fulfilled any of his other campaign promises?
Is that our criterion for support or non support of this war? Gee, Obama finally kept a promise. Everybody celebrate! No thank you. I'll pass.
|
oregonjen
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 07:51 PM
Response to Original message |
17. Did he cut a deal for healthcare? |
|
My friend had offered up that possibility. Quid Pro Quo for getting healthcare passed? He didn't have the same voice last night as previous speeches, so it makes me wonder.
|
Tierra_y_Libertad
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 08:32 PM
Response to Original message |
20. "Bush lied, people died." "Obama didn't lie, people die"? |
Cali_Democrat
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-02-09 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #20 |
DU
AdBot (1000+ posts) |
Fri Apr 26th 2024, 08:43 AM
Response to Original message |