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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:20 PM
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Bilingual instructions in California.
Californians say no to bilingual instruction in schools.

Californians say no to bilingual instructions on ballots.

Californians say yes to bilingual instructions on curbside waste receptacles:

Coloque el recipients con las flechas hacia la calle
Place container with arrow facing street

No ruede el recipiente con la tapa abierta
Do not tilt or roll container with lid open

Recortes de jardin solamente
Yard clippings only

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This argument was constructed by Mullen.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:30 PM
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1. My grandson is in an immersion kindergarten Italian program in Glendale.
The school also has a German immersion program. This year they have 3 immersion language programs: German, Italian and Spanish. It's doing very well...

People are beginning to sign up for these immersion programs because they have learned about the benefits to brain development in children who learn multiple languages as a child.

This will turn out to be a very good thing for schools who take this up. Americans have a visceral reaction to kids learning anything except English but they shouldn't. Learning other languages IMPROVES their minds. It doesn't hurt them at all...

I wonder if CA would have these programs at all had it not been for the Prop. that decreed English only in the schools...
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:35 PM
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2. I wish I was raised bilingual. nt
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:35 PM
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3. Masaka sonna koto ga aruhazu nai yo!
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 08:37 PM by AsahinaKimi
うそっ! ざんねんですね.っかなしいなあ!!

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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:47 PM
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5. Uso? Isn't that liar? nt
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:50 PM
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7. It can also mean like...
NO WAY!!!!
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:51 PM
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9. Oh, thanks for the Nihongo tip! nt
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:54 PM
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11. Dou itashi!
いいえ、こちらこそ!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:42 PM
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4. The ballots in my precinct in 2008 were provided in SIX languages including English
Every publication I get from my phone provider, the power company, and many other sources comes in English and Spanish at a minimum.

I'm not at all sure what ZombieHorde is referring to.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:49 PM
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6. This is good to hear. How long has this been?
The argument was written in 2002.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:28 AM
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13. We've had ballots in Spanish, Filipino, Vietnamese, Farsi, etc. for many election cycles
There have always been people arguing for English-only for all functions of government. They have never made much headway.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:23 PM
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18. Are you talking about sample ballots? nt
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:50 PM
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8. We should encourage people to use their own native languages.
After all, we don't want little brown people learning English. Then they might get the good jobs that rightfully belong to us real Murkins.

:sarcasm:
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:54 PM
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10. If I understand correctly, CA passed an official language law in the 80s
(as a constitutional amendment, perhaps?) but it has been interpreted by government at I'd guess every level as advisory only. Basically, it says something like "the Legislature will do nothing the undermine the status of English as CA's official language."
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:05 PM
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12. I live in NM, where everything is bilingual
and I can't believe it's such a big frigging deal elsewhere.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:37 AM
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14. You don't want your maid or your gardener screwing it up
:eyes:
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:52 AM
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15. Sample ballots are in multiple languages.
Have been for decades.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:17 AM
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16. What about the ballots people vote on? nt
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 12:27 PM
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17. That I'm not sure of.
I speak and read English so I'm not sure what the procedure is, but I would guess that they could request a ballot in one of the languages that all the other election materials are available in...but I'd just be guessing.
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