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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 04:19 PM
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America Just Wants Peace
America Just Wants Peace
posted with permission from http://sane-ramblings.blogspot.com/2009/12/america-just-wants-peace.html

America is escalating the Afghanistan-Pakistan War because it deeply desires peace and its enemies won't allow it to have that peace.

America wants peace so much, that to have it, it launched preemptive wars not only in Afghanistan but in Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Panama, Grenada and in Iraq . It is also fighting drug wars in Mexico, Columbia and Brazil, and through its CIA, has conducted secret military actions from Iran to Nicaragua to Somalia.

To further ensure peace, the U.S. has 747 military bases on foreign lands all over the world, compared to few if any for every other nation. Nearly 65 years after World War ll ended, it has 60,000 troops in Germany and 50,000 in Japan. And 56 years after the Korean War ended, it has 37,000 troops there.

And when having two million soldiers in uniform was not enough, for the first time in its history, the U.S. hired a mercenary Army at premium prices, one it doesn't count in disclosing its number of troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In addition, the U.S. has thousands of nuclear warheads, far more than anyone else and some of those warheads are ready for attack on a moment's notice. And attack it can for the U.S. has the most powerful delivery systems in the world.

Meanwhile, through the CIA and its military counterparts, the U.S. seizes foreign nationals it suspects to be terrorists and will torture them, while holding them indefinitely, often in secret prisons.

While in combat, the U.S. kills those it calls terrorists, insurgents, extremists or militants. Regretfully, the U.S. sometimes kills non-combatants, including children, but that can't be helped in the pursuit of peace.

As if all these steps weren't enough to ensure peace, the U.S. is spending far more money than it can afford to build a mind numbing number of new weapons.

But as an American, if you and don't believe these actions bring peace, please raise your voice now! Your conscience will thank you and humanity will breathe a massive sigh of relief knowing America might really change its ways and pursue peace through peaceful means.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 04:29 PM
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1. Don't forget we also went to war with Japan and Germany
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 04:32 PM
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2. Yeah we should have just let Tojo and the Kraut munchers
break shell all over the world. :sarcasm:
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 04:49 PM
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3. I don't think the point was that no war was worth fighting...
...But that we seem to be in perpetual war. It never ends. And when we are not at war, we are building up the war machine, and around we go again.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 04:55 PM
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5. War it never changes...
We as a species will always have it, but war is never a absolute and eventually there will be a period of relative peace, and then it's right back to war again. Now that doesn't mean I think we should have war just for the sake of war, but the thing is we have reasons for the war in Afghanistan, and good ones, unlike what we had in Iraq.
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 04:53 PM
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4. K & R
I am so *ing disappointed at the troop escalation in Afghanistan. It's Iraq deja-vu. Why don't we all mind our own damn business and worry about our own countries and stop trying to remake others, or steal their resources, or whatever excuse we use to justify what we hung others for.
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HelenWheels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 07:38 PM
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11. Agree with polly7
What do we hope to gain by war with Afghanistan? Wouldn't it be wonderful if all that money that's funding the wars were put to use to better life for our own citizens?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 05:01 PM
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6. The citizens may want peace, but the government and the military/industrial complex
thrive on war.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 05:19 PM
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7. Agreed. The US was started based on war. It's the only thing people know.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 08:21 PM
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12. I believe it was George Carlin who mentioned that the US National Anthem
may be the only one which glorifies war.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 05:22 PM
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8. Voices don't matter. Actions do
We have oil wars because we like to drive.

Don't like oil wars?

Cut back on driving.

Or just make up some lame excuse about why that isn't feasible.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 05:59 PM
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9. American mindset: give peace a chance but first let's kill this motherfucker.
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 06:05 PM
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10. War is one of our limiting factors
In the natural world, limiting factors like the availability of food, water, shelter and space can change animal and plant populations. Other limiting factors like competition for resources, predation and disease can also impact populations. If any of the limiting factors change, animal and plant populations change, too. http://www.nhptv.org/NATUREWORKS/nwep12a.htm

Maybe we just cannot help ourselves. But I bet if there were fewer of us humans, war would be much harder to justify...
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:34 PM
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13. This part really bothers me...
"And when having two million soldiers in uniform was not enough, for the first time in its history, the U.S. hired a mercenary Army at premium prices, one it doesn't count in disclosing its number of troops in Iraq and Afghanistan."

I hoped the "blackwater" army would be eliminated under President Obama Not so.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:36 PM
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14. It is also fighting drug wars in Mexico,
This is a surprise, we have been involved in the Mexican war on drugs since 1983? WHO KNEW?

Our involvement is VERY RECENT... and quite distant...

(As in two years at most)
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