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Fri Dec-04-09 08:51 AM
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Want to see something funny? Freepers are squealing like piggies about the unemployment figures |
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Fri Dec-04-09 08:53 AM
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1. Laugh all you want - there will be a payback in 2010 election |
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Fri Dec-04-09 08:54 AM
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Can you be more specific?
Don
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:03 AM
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6. Even Die-Hard Dems are complaing about Pelosie's Stimulous Package |
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All I've been hearing is "Where are the Jobs" and "What a Fucking Waste of Money"
only 11% for Badly needed infastructure was a serious mistake that is going to cost the Dems
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:16 AM
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15. That would be "Pelosi's" |
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:16 AM
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16. Turn off FAUX and that noise will stop |
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Fri Dec-04-09 11:22 AM
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Fri Dec-04-09 01:27 PM
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47. Sorry the rest of the Country is not on FUX |
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These are people I work with, friends, and people I meet
Pelosie and the Congressional Dems blew it BIG TIME
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Fri Dec-04-09 01:55 PM
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59. Why do you refuse to spell Pelosi's name correctly even aftger being alerted to your misspelling? |
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When you behave like a Rightist...
- attack Democrats - exaggerate bad news to make Democrats look bad - misspell Democratic names, or use stupid sounding nicknames
... people are going to believe you are a Rightist. Your problem is that you spend too much time in your Rightist bubble where misspelling or nicknaming gets hoots of laughter and is viewed as incredibly smart and witty. Outside that bubble you look like an idiot.
Of course, I'm sure you have been told this many times before. But as long as real people laugh at your childishness just to be polite (the second you leave I imagine everyone makes fun of you), you will continue thinking you are amazingly froody.
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Fri Dec-04-09 01:59 PM
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62. Does your post have any thing to do with the subject matter |
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Sorry
I shouldn't make fun of people with ADD
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:56 AM
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26. Never have heard of ANY real democrat crabbing about "Pelosie's Stimulous Package" |
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One of the oddest posts I've seen in a long time.
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:58 AM
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29. Yeah, that was a little weird nt |
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Fri Dec-04-09 01:30 PM
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48. Must be living in a different Space Time Dimension |
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I'm hearing this from MANY MANY MANY supporters who voted for Obama
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Fri Dec-04-09 06:48 PM
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67. Can any of them spell the name of the Speaker of the House? |
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Fri Dec-04-09 01:30 PM
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Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 01:30 PM by FreakinDJ
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Fri Dec-04-09 01:46 PM
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58. S-t-i-m-u-l-u-s. P-e-l-o-s-i. D-e-l-e-t-e. |
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:14 AM
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12. Payback for the trainwreck xCommander AWOL & Republicon cronies LEFT BEHIND |
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Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 09:15 AM by SpiralHawk
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Fri Dec-04-09 08:54 AM
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:12 AM
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10. just guessing it could be the voters nt |
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:39 AM
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:56 AM
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28. I'm guessing the average American voter who doesn't spend their days on political message boards |
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The guy who comes home at night, watches 10 minutes of news, doesn't understand or care to understand the minutiae of public policy. You know, most of them. If we don't see some real results for workers or some bold moves that look like our administration 'gets it' about the average guy we will be killed in the next elections.
I hope I'm wrong but Americans are notorious for punishing the party in power when their lives suck.
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Fri Dec-04-09 11:17 AM
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37. I'm not at all certain that person exists any more. |
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That "average voter" doesn't even watch 10 minutes of news. Most of their political "information" comes from rumors now, and, of course, few even bother to vote.
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Fri Dec-04-09 01:37 PM
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55. Thanks - You diffinitly "Get-it" |
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I don't know why everyone wants to argue the validity of what is really going on all across America. And this is from the "Liberal Strong Hold" of the San Francisco Bay Area.
The Dems are Toast
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Fri Dec-04-09 01:32 PM
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51. From a lot of people who VOTED for Obama |
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and are now sorry they did
Fucked up Congressional Dems Blew it
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Fri Dec-04-09 01:35 PM
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supposed Obama voters are going to vote for the party that got us into this mess? Are they that stupid?
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Fri Dec-04-09 01:45 PM
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Lets face it America "Re-elected George Bush" didn't they
We can talk about Ohio and other examples of voter fraud - but lets face it, it was close enough to steal and their has been no support to investigate voter irregularities.
So Bush had a 2nd term to "Fuck Up America"
To Bad the Dems are not smart enough or concerned enough to stay in office to undo the many injustices brought on by a RATpubliCON majority in power
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Fri Dec-04-09 03:36 PM
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64. A lot of things went into that |
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2004 election. Some fraud, that Osama tape 4 days before, Kerry's pathetic and too late response to the swift boat freaks. I don't see anyone on the right side of the aisle, at the moment, that can not only win their primaries but also a general election.
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:16 AM
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14. Payback for saving us from a Great Depression? |
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Fri Dec-04-09 01:34 PM
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53. Double Digit UnEmployment doesn't feel like being "Saved" |
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but feel free to whistel in the dark all you like little boy
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Fri Dec-04-09 01:57 PM
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60. And yet, Reagan got re-elected. |
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Fri Dec-04-09 11:20 AM
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39. You forgot the "MWA-HA-HA-HAAAA!" at the end. -nt |
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Fri Dec-04-09 08:56 AM
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4. Sadly I am seeing the same negative reactions here at DU to the good news |
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Fri Dec-04-09 10:42 AM
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31. You've gotta be kidding. |
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Fri Dec-04-09 11:19 AM
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Do you have a link?
I'm not trying to be snarky or anything, I just haven't come across it myself.
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Fri Dec-04-09 01:34 PM
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Fri Dec-04-09 01:32 PM
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50. They make the same comments! |
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Except they add the whining that the media supposedly criticized Bush for 5.6 figures.
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Fri Dec-04-09 08:57 AM
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5. double-digit unemployment is NOT a good thing |
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photo-ops and war escalation are not the solution . . . we need some REAL job-creation
where are those shovel-ready jobs? There was the single bridge in Mo -that is all I remember.
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:10 AM
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8. Well Florida is using the money |
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They are repaving the entire stretch of the Turnpike from Ft Pierce to Palm Beach Gardens. They are also building courthouses in St Lucie and Martin Counties. The states are using the money, but we have a media that only shows negative stories. I know I work for a NBC station. It's 24 hour negativity!!
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:21 AM
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18. thanks - I didn't know that |
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good news imo
The D's should be using their microphones so folks know some improvements are underway.
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Fri Dec-04-09 11:52 AM
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44. Ohio is as well... in my travels around Ohio over the late summer early fall, I saw several |
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road improvement projects underway. They even had signs saying they were being done thanks to the stimulus money.
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:21 AM
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:32 AM
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20. There are dozens of stimulus projects going on |
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in this tri-state area, people have even been complaining about the traffic problems they create. The Stimulus was not intended to make (jobs) in the first place, it was to make work to help limit unemployment. The private sector makes jobs, the government spends money. Sure there are bridges to be built but it takes years of engineering, EPA permits and COE permits before any ground is broken on a large bridge project. I know of several smaller bridges in the area that are or have been replaced with the stimulus. There is an Ohio river bridge a few miles from here that is being refurbished with stimulus money.
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Fri Dec-04-09 10:45 AM
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32. Wasn't one of the selling points of stimulus |
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to keep unemployment rate under 8-9%. Pelosi screw up big time in her priorities for stimulus spending.
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Fri Dec-04-09 10:52 AM
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34. At the time that was the projection, it turned out Bushco |
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f---ed the economy up even worse than they originally thought. Why are you spewing out the Rove talking points, one of the low post count Repug trolls?
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:38 AM
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21. The stimulus money caught the states off guard. |
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There were many improvement projects put on the back burner by the states as all the Fed money dried up under the Bush regime.
So, estimations and projections weren't being done by the states, as that costs money, and they were only funding projects that were in dire need, or on an emergency basis.
Not too many 'shovel-ready' projects or improvements were past the study stage, as there was no money to fund them anyway. The few you see now were probably on the 'need-to-do' list.
The Fed didn't want the stimulus money being spent willy-nilly, haphazardly, or getting in the pockets of cronies of the various governors, so they demanded accountability from the states for their projects.
They are scrambling to put together good cost estimates and realistic schedules just as fast as they can to present to the federal government
Look to the second quarter for that stimulus money to really hit the states.
Dirt is gonna fly.
I think I'm going to hate "Orange Barrel" season this year.
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:40 AM
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23. Check out recovery.gov |
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they keep stats on where the stimulus money is going
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Fri Dec-04-09 01:40 PM
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56. That might be a "Sore Subject" |
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Since it made National News many of the "Congressional Districts" reporting Job Gains don't exist.
I know the administration made a statement addressing the mis-print. But it doesn't look very good none the less
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Fri Dec-04-09 02:00 PM
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63. One out of thousands is acceptable... |
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With the data coming from the recipients, it won't be perfect, but it's the best public data we've ever had for anything like this. I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater on this one.
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Fri Dec-04-09 03:39 PM
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65. Many? Was there more than this one case? |
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Fri Dec-04-09 05:37 PM
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66. That is not the way the National Media presented it |
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Granted it was promptly debunked on DU, - but what is that 1000 maybe 2000 readers of that thread
The vast majority of Americans heard (and now beleive) what you say is a misrepresentation. It won't change the outcome of the next election cycle
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:08 AM
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7. One of them says they are not counting |
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3 million people receiving Stimulus money. Last week they were saying the stimulus didn't put anyone to work.:shrug:
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:11 AM
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9. It actually means nothing when you read the report |
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However, I doubt the freepers are trying to break down the report but are focusing on the nonsense U3 number.
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:13 AM
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11. I know. ACORN is fudging the numbers |
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Fri Dec-04-09 10:38 AM
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On the left and the right, asking people to read something and analyze the data themselves is now considered an attack on some etheral force.
The republic is lost.
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Fri Dec-04-09 10:47 AM
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33. Waaaa!!!!111 No DOOM for you! |
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Fri Dec-04-09 11:21 AM
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40. Ignored knows he's ignored right |
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:15 AM
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13. What to see something pathetic? Many DUers are squealing as well... |
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Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 09:30 AM by jpak
Maybe they need their own forum.
The Anti-Obama DOOM Squealer Forum
no trolls would dare to enter
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:28 AM
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19. There's an idea. You could put a direct link between that |
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forum to Free Republic to help folks move back and forth between the two sites. I'd also suggest a different interface for that forum. Just funky text and no threading.
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:41 AM
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24. Not one of them is happy with the good employment news. |
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When there's bad news, they jump all over Obama. When there's good news, they go off the deep end. Just read the posts!
(a) It's not true. (b) The number was lower under bush and people complained. (c) The improvement is all government jobs. (d) It doesn't matter.
And then they wonder why Obama doesn't just "show us his birth certificate".
:crazy:
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:51 AM
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25. Pols here in PA are saying the stimulus is having real, positive effect that's |
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just beginning to show up. There are enough public works projects and repairs needed here to keep contractors busy for decades - after decades of neglect.
Also showing up in the green areas - the numbers are slowly starting to turn back. Of course it all doesn't happen immediately, but is it starting to make its presence felt - and much of the stimulus is supposed to be released in 2010...I expect the GOPers - and sadly, some Dems - will be whining even more next year, when that election is coming up.....
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Fri Dec-04-09 09:56 AM
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27. The Republican Party And Their Sefl-Proclaimed "Conservative" Supporters |
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Are in for a big surprise when Obama's plans start manifesting themselves positively in a next year or two and they find themselves REELING yet again in the public eye.
Boy I can't wait.
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Fri Dec-04-09 11:03 AM
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35. I thought republicans didn't care about unemployment |
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Seriously I'm not joking,they can't logically believe that employment will be better under their form of free market,the whole point of their free market is winner take all.
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Fri Dec-04-09 11:15 AM
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36. So remind me -- how are they any different from a big chunk of DU? |
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Fri Dec-04-09 11:34 AM
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42. Being on an anonymous Internet chat site I don't see the purpose of explaining the difference |
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Seems redundant. But I will try.
We don't know who these wackadoodles are or what their political ideology really is. We could be discussing things of great importance with with a god damned LaRouchey goofball for all we really know. And you know we probably have. We had to.
Got to take everything with a grain of salt around here.
Look around at all the people who act all pissed off about President Obama's Afghan decision. I bet a dollar to a donut most of them supported Bush invading there to begin with. Maybe they are really just pissed off at themselves for getting played like a fool by a drunk cowboy? I don't know?
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Fri Dec-04-09 11:45 AM
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43. Thanks for the explanation. Sadly, though, I've come to a more chilling conclusion |
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Part of it has to do with spending too much time on the Energy/Environment Forum.
There I have been blown away at the percentage of people who enthusiastically look forward to the "great die off". There was a post like that today, iirc, in GD.
Unfortunately, a large percentage of DUers are basically nihilists. They want things to be terrible, and hope for some sort of secular rapture in which all the bad people and all the good people who aren't as good as them, die and they are raptured into either Kucinich heaven or socialist workers' paradise.
There used to be a parallel forum to DU that went through a series of purges until there are basically about 5 members left all of whom police each others' ideological purity, and frankly if it were left up to about 20% of DU that's what DU would be also.
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Fri Dec-04-09 12:01 PM
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45. Oh, I readily admit I could never be a moderator here and admire those who can |
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I would ban everybody. Be just me and Skinner sitting here after a week or so.
:rofl:
I had never heard of the "great die off" theory before now. And thank you for bringing it to my attention. I am going to have to spend some time on the Energy/Environment Forum in the future.
Take care and see you later.
Oh, and by the way I sent TahitiNut a private email yesterday and still have not received a response back. I sure hope he is alright.
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