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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 10:29 AM
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Jewish groups point out religious conservatives are trying to have it both ways with Stupak
...By essentially saying that insurance plans cannot segregate private funds used for abortion from public funds that are not allowed for such a purpose, opponents argue that Stupak in a number of areas contradicts government policy – which, for instance, permits public funds to go to religious institutions as long as the money is not used for religious activties.

The director of the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, Rabbi David Saperstein, said that in pushing for the stricter abortion measure, religious conservatives are using the opposite argument from their case for allowing government-subsidized school vouchers to be used for religious schools. Conservatives argue that the voucher case does not constitute government endorsement of religion because a mother or father is making the choice of where to spend the money.

But in pushing for the adoption of Stupak, proponents are saying that if the government gives an individual money for health insurance, the government is then endorsing abortion if the recipient uses her insurance to pay for such a procedure.

http://www.forward.com/articles/119895
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 10:33 AM
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1. Yep
Just like being anti-choice and pro death penalty. If it weren't for hypocrisy we would have seen the demise of the religious right a long time ago because they would have had to STFU on most everything they spew.
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joecool65 Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 10:39 AM
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Do conservatives really care if they are being hypocrites?
When have they ever cared?
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:22 AM
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4. No, hypocracy is their life
They are nothing without it.
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joecool65 Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 10:39 AM
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2. Do conservatives really care if they are being hypocrites?
When have they ever cared?
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:14 AM
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3. What many people don't understand is there is a religious pro-choice coalition....
... that includes several Christian denominations and many religions.

The fundies have been very loud and persistent in claiming that they have -- indeed that they OWN -- the moral high ground. The fundies have been so successful at it that a lot of DUers mistakenly believe that theirs is the only religious voice on the subject. Not so.

I am very grateful that Rabbi Saperstein is speaking out, and I hope that other socially liberal clergy organizations will make their voices heard as well. Soon.

Hekate

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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:40 AM
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5. Good call, Rabbi.
K&R.

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