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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:00 AM
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DU pointed out Erik Prince - CIA connections way before MSM bought a clue.
Erik Prince points to a not-so-pretty picture.



This guy is connected every way to dominionist Sunday,
turning his start-up Blackwater into a no-bid billion dollar federal contractor
that "somehow" morphed into America's Murder Inc.


Of course, DU was on to his mixing patriotism and profits
more than two years before Corporate McPravda.


The great DUer seafan, for starters, a couple years back, noted:

Oliver North vs Erik Prince: Different decade, same attitude.

The great DUer ProSense found the Treasury paid out a tidy sum:

Erik Prince, Blackwater War Profiteer...

The great DUer bobthedrummer and friends asked what should we know around then:

What questions would you like put to Blackwater's founder, Erik Prince, next week?

The great DUer hissyspit and friends noted another nice connection:

Confirmed: A.B. 'Buzzy' Krongard, Brother Of State Dep't IG, Sits On Blackwater's Advisory Board.

The great DUer Faygo Kid and friends pegged 'em, as did many, many DUers:

Blackwater goes deeper than you think. I am posting this from another response; it's worth a look.

This DU thread brought up the work of Tim Shorock and R.J. Hillhouse, who chronicled the privatization of US intelligence.

'Spies for Hire' 'The Secret World of Intelligence Outsourcing'

bobthedrummer and the dear, departed great DUer seemslikeadream and friends pegged the, eh, superpatriotic fellah:

Why isn't J. Cofer Black a household name? He should have recognition with we that know our BFEE.

PS: The great DUer BabylonSister suggested this thread in Blackwater CEO's CIA Paycheck Unravels Key Mysteries.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:04 AM
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1. k&r
:kick:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:09 AM
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2. arcadian
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jasi2006 Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 09:00 AM
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41. DU is always ahead of the media. MSM holds back until it is
impossible to cover up the mounting evidence. We really do not have a "free press" in this country. It is owned and controlled.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:12 AM
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3. Thanks for compiling all this for us.
Too bad the MSM doesn't get a clue and check with DU to find out what's going on. Guess they're too busy with Tiger, baloon boy, etc.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:14 AM
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4. MinM
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:42 AM
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5. Thanks for compiling this, Octafish. Here are a few more.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:08 PM
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16. There it is!!!!
thanks, buddy....
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:41 PM
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21. L. Coyote Dec-09-07 - "Does anyone on DU believe Blackwater is NOT a CIA or MIA front? "
Hey, I'm felling left out of the vast CROWD who knew! :rofl:

L. Coyote Dec-09-07 - Does anyone on DU believe Blackwater is NOT a CIA or MIA front? Just asking.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2434635#2435163

The old-fashioned intelligence front served a variety of purposes, especially deniability.
The basic modis operandi is do all the things you might need to deny in this manner.
And, reap rich rewards on those willing to undertake your dirty work, of course, with kickbacks to politicos.

Why would anyone think this is not just more of the same old, same old, tired trick, a front for certain operations?


Plenty more links back (Deja DU's) in this thread:
JackRiddler Thu Dec-03-09 11:26 AM
Blackwater's Erik Prince to step down, reveals CIA role
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4169822
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 06:02 PM
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31. Yeah, that post title certainly fits the theme! Pretty funny.
But my TPM post was first! :D

Jeez, I can't believe those were posted TWO YEARS ago. Time flies supersonic.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:57 PM
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34. Blackwater's Secret War In Pakistan
Blackwater's Secret War in Pakistan Revealed
By Jeremy Scahill, The Nation. Posted November 24, 2009.
http://www.alternet.org/story/144153/blackwater%27s_secret_war_in_pakistan_revealed/


An elite division of Blackwater plans targeted assassinations of suspected Taliban and Al Qaeda operatives in Pakistan. And everyone's denying it.

At a covert forward operating base run by the US Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) in the Pakistani port city of Karachi, members of an elite division of Blackwater are at the center of a secret program in which they plan targeted assassinations of suspected Taliban and Al Qaeda operatives, "snatch and grabs" of high-value targets and other sensitive action inside and outside Pakistan, an investigation by The Nation has found. The Blackwater operatives also assist in gathering intelligence and help run a secret US military drone bombing campaign that runs parallel to the well-documented CIA predator strikes, according to a well-placed source within the US military intelligence apparatus.

The source, who has worked on covert US military programs for years, including in Afghanistan and Pakistan, has direct knowledge of Blackwater's involvement. He spoke to The Nation on condition of anonymity because the program is classified. The source said that the program is so "compartmentalized" that senior figures within the Obama administration and the US military chain of command may not be aware of it ..................
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:54 PM
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24. starroute
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:58 AM
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6. K&R
:applause: BRAVO, Octafish!

and

seafan
ProSense
bobthedrummer
hissyspit
Faygo Kid
seemslikeadream (RIP)
BabylonSister

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:55 PM
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26. donsu
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:58 AM
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7. this needs 100+ recs, hands down.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:56 PM
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27. Virginia Dare
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:12 AM
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62. It SHOULD, but, I doubt it will. Too many have invested themselves in the sand they keep their
heads buried in and will NOT acknowledge the truth. The Bushes and Blackwater have some famous Dems who protected them the last two decades.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:00 PM
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8. K&R
Thank you for all the compilations.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:57 PM
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28. BrklynLiberal
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:02 PM
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9. huge kick for truth....
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:58 PM
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29. Ichingcarpenter
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 01:38 PM
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10. k&r nt
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 06:02 PM
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30. DeepModem Mom
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 06:05 PM
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32. She quit D.U. after Obama's inauguration.
Too bad. She is missed.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 01:43 PM
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11. kick
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 05:36 PM
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45. maddezmom
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 01:47 PM
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12. Octafish, DU would not be DU without you. Kicking. n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 05:39 PM
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46. mitchum
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 02:00 PM
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13. Another excellent and informative thread K&R
Thanks for your efforts, they are much appreciated
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 05:40 PM
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47. ck4829
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 12:53 PM
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65. I'm sure he's an expert on terrorism
been terrorizing people for years. Shouldn't mercenary armies be made illegal worldwide? After all, depending on mercenaries in war causes nations to have an incentive to maintain poverty levels - so they can get more cannon fodder.

Cofer Black just plain scares me - and he's a pioneer privatizing intelligence services now... "bring CIA-style intelligence services to Fortune 500" . Woo hoo Go Team Mammon. I wonder if all the players really "get it" or if they're just going along, because they want to be in the game.

We need to develop good strategies to fight back against this mind-murdering perspective we've taken on as a nation.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 02:11 PM
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14. K&R! n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 05:43 PM
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48. Javaman
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 02:38 PM
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15. I see this asshole
and it provokes a violent, visceral reaction in me. I get very, very angry.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 05:48 PM
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49. Octafish!

What? You thought I was gonna say, "%&*#@&%$#!"? Ha!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:11 PM
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17. absolutely!
and that is just one of many crucial issues,

:thumbsup:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 05:50 PM
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50. drm604
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:12 PM
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18. The MSM is worthless!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 05:52 PM
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51. Ninga
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:13 PM
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19. K&R
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 05:55 PM
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52. maxrandb
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:38 PM
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20. Update: Uzbekistan! (Scahill on Maddow)
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 06:10 PM
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54. fooj
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:46 PM
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22. Results 1 - 100 of about 1,870 from democraticunderground.com for "Erik Prince".
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:55 PM
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25. ***** Waxman Hearing on Blackwater: Eric Prince, CEO ***** Prince lied??
And where, other than DU, would you find "Official" LiveBlog of the Congressional hearings?

Official Thread # 1 = http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1957867
Official Thread # 2 = http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1958372
Official Thread # 3 = http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1958984
Official Thread # 4 = http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1959806

Where we see on DU evidence Erik Prince likely LIED to Congress = "only defensive operations."
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 06:12 PM
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55. HysteryDiagnosis
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:48 PM
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23. Hm, I always pictured him looking fiercer
He looks like a typical chickenhawk douchebag.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 06:13 PM
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56. Marleyb
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 06:10 PM
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33. VIDEO: RM: Blackwater - Erik Prince - CIA assassins - Afghanistan
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x409975

To what extent is DU essential to researchers doing MSM shows like Rachel?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:37 PM
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38. Is Erik Prince 'Graymailing' the US Government?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 12:37 AM
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61. Guy wants to avoid the fate of anyone who knows anything.
...when so many don't want anyone to know something.

Even Poppy has survived some scary stuff.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:58 PM
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35. Great OP/thread.
Recommended.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 06:28 PM
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57. Robbien
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:10 PM
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36. K&R
:toast:

The kind of stuff that keeps DU on the Worthwhile List.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 12:33 AM
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60. BeatleBoot
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:04 PM
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37. You and others you've named and credited, are some of
DU's finest. Keep shining the light, we know their game, and always it leads to them, woven into the CIA with our tax dollars and a blanket of secrecy they wrought their evil.

I'm glad the masses are finally connecting the dots, it's important they do.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:44 PM
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44. wish it was the 'masses' mother earth, but, it's still too few who have bothered to wrap their
brains around this and other crucial matters that had have been downplayed and/or covered up over the decades.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 01:54 PM
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66. I truly believe we have more company than we know. I feel
it's the others who are in the minority, but they don't know it. They like to throw stones and cry CT, but they are the ones who don't have it right, they are just too arrogant to know it.
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 07:22 AM
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39. Blackwater now destabilizing Pakistan
From a Pakistani paper today:


LAHORE: Lahore High Court (LHC) Chief Justice (CJ) Khawaja Muhammad Sharif served notice on the Interior secretary for not replying to a petition against the alleged activities of Blackwater in the federal capital.
. . .

Barrister Zafarullah, the petitioner’s counsel, cited several news reports according to which American and Dutch nationals were found patrolling the federal capital’s streets with sophisticated weapons. He said the diplomats and marines of both the countries had also beat up the people. He said the “culprits of these incidents” were set free and no action was taken against them for violating the law of the land.
. . .
Illegal weapons: Seeking search of US embassy, he said the day Blackwater had stepped into Pakistan, terror acts and suicide attacks had been scaled up. The counsel also alleged that in the US embassy illegal arms and ammunition were being stored, which were being used for “sabotage acts” in the country.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009%5C12%5C05%5Cstory_5-12-2009_pg7_7


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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 12:26 AM
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58. Remember those crazy Royal Army SAS Commandos in civilian terror garb who killed a cop?
The Brits used tanks to break into their Iraqi jail cells, to free them before they could be questioned. They never did answer for the bomb-making equipment found in their car.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 07:35 AM
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40. Bookmarked
Great post
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 09:23 AM
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42. bookmarked for all these great links, n/t
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:19 AM
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43. Kick
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 06:04 PM
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53. Kick and bookmarking for later. nt
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 12:32 AM
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59. This is the DU I know and love. (n/t)
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 11:04 AM
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63. and that's been my concern
the privatization of the military. Remember the Business Plot? Big greedy industrialists allegedly with their own private army to overthrow FDR. To me, it's a very, very chilling thought. People no longer would have to worry about the Geneva Convention; and these corporations could hire the thugs of the world to maintain control of the populace. Call me tinfoily, call me paranoid--but I thought of that when * was privatizing the military. Instead of MP's protecting our bases, we've got private contractors--some who are very disrespectful to those in the military.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 12:31 PM
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64. People in the military are loyal to the Constitution.
People in Blackwater are loyal to the guy who signs their paycheck.

Big diff, when it comes to following orders and shooting at civilians -- like in NOLA -- and stuff.
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