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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:11 PM Original message |
Amanda Knox- guilty on all charges |
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virgogal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. OMG. |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. Wow |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Many of the people picked up in Muslim countries were thrown into |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I never said they should have found her innocent because she is American. |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. And people shouldn't believe every bit of bullshit the European tabloids |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 12:51 AM Response to Reply #25 |
67. The lead prosecutor is the same lunatic who's been fucking up the Monster of Florence case |
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Syntheto (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
46. Uh, this was in Italy... |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. She "confessed" under torture |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Wow again |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Sounds like something that goes on in US police stations everyday. |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. It was also trial by tabloid. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. "But Marge, listen to the music, he's evil!!!" n/t |
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TokenQueer (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
49. You are correct. She was railroaded. |
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Syntheto (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
47. Stop... |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. I think you missed my point, but whatever. n/t |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. I'll bet whatever appeals process there is in Italy wouldn't do squat |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 07:09 AM Response to Reply #11 |
77. Knox's DNA was on the knife handle |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. Holy Fucking Shit |
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justabob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. American student in Italy charged with murdering her roommate nt |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. She's an American student in Italy. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
62. IIRC it was some kind of study abroad drug fueled sex orgy gone murderous |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
4. I don't know who that is |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
7. very disappointing. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
9. Sentenced to 25 years!!! Wow!!! Stay out of Italian courts!! n/t |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. italian courts? i'll stay |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. As opposed to a typical murder sentence in American courts? |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. I guess that's pretty lenient by comparison. n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. actually, you'd be wrong about that |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
57. I don't know the details of that case, but that sounds way too light of a sentence |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
81. Indeed |
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npk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. She would have gotten life in prison in America |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. not necessarily. sentences vary widely for murder as this story |
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npk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. True it does vary. n/t |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
13. Meredith Kercher trial: Amanda Knox guilty of murder |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. Funny that there was no blood evidence |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. there was a lot of blood evidence |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
16. In Italy the jury is allowed to research the case on their own... |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
58. If that is true, that is beyond messed up. I do believe any type of |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 01:00 AM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Really? Being informed is messed up? |
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EndersDame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #69 |
82. Being informed by sensationalistic tabloids when deciding the fate of a young girls life is fuckedup |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Thank you. Exactly. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
17. From what I know of the case, |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
18. Amusing how this thread is quickly turning to jingoism. |
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Christa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I agree with you |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I was not even thinking about Gitmo, but about the basic american justice. |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. So it's okay what happened to her because of what goes on here. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
59. I know our system is FAR from perfect. Beyond far from perfect. |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. You think Italy has any "moral high ground"? |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. That's about the only good thing about Italy's "justice" system |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #29 |
83. Is there any proof, other than this case (for which is has not been proven either) |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
37. Jingoism? Individuals aren't countries. |
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unabelladonna (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
63. i noticed that as well |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
19. Good. IMO, justice has been served. eom. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. You think this is justice? |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. There are people who will always try to change the subject |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. It's not justice but it's most certainly "justice" as defined in much of America.. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. And what does that have to do with anything? |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. Not trying to "deflect" anything.. |
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TokenQueer (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
50. Also she had only been in the country for a couple of weeks... |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I'm actually currently reading a book on autonomous social movements in Italy |
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TokenQueer (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. I hear ya! |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #55 |
80. "Subversion of Politics" by George Katsiaficas. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. of course you do. she's an American and therefore must be guilty. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 01:02 AM Response to Reply #35 |
70. Someone can be an american and guilty. Ever thought about that? |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
38. Wow, I just saw that elsewhere |
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
41. Observing her behavior from the beginning, I have to say that I'm not surprised at all. |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. neither am I |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
60. Did you follow this from the beginning? I read somewhere that when |
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Like I said, I observed her behavior and how it was being reported |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 12:33 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I'm always bothered when people or police take in to account a suspect's behavior or demeanor. |
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 01:08 AM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Ah, I see. I was like that, too, when... |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Have you seen this 48 Hours report? |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
85. frequently changing one's story is a bit more than that |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
53. I let the courts decide things like this |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I'm sympathetic because they tortured a confession out of her. n/t |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
56. Admittedly I don't know a whole lot about the trial, but I was rooting |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-04-09 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
65. In the United States she would have gone free. We never lock up the rich. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Hah? What makes you think she is rich? |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 04:49 AM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Do you go to the same school as Prince Leka of Albania? |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 06:59 AM Response to Reply #65 |
75. Jeffrey McDonald begs to differ |
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jakefrep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
72. Who the fuck is Amanda Knox? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 06:20 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Apparently a blond, blue eyed, SoCal babe from a well-to-do family that |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 07:02 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Good coverage here |
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Frank Cannon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
78. I never even heard of this woman until last night |
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