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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:03 PM
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Poll question: I think Osama bin Laden is dead -- Do you?
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:04 PM
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1. When was his last video, I forgot.
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 07:05 PM by Bushknew
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:20 PM
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8. Besides this one?
http://www.freetheflash.com/videos/family-guy--osama-bin-laden.php

:7

Actually, I'm not sure when the last one was. I think it's been a long time -- that usually there's a tape of him (with no way to know the date) and a voice-over purported to be him. Not one of him standing there speaking to the camera with topical subjects.
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:17 PM
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27. That was probably the most authentic one. : - )
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:05 PM
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2. other-I don't know nt
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:06 PM
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3. I voted other. He and Erik Prince are going to retire and teach at the same High School.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:10 PM
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4. I really don't know, and...
Frankly, I think we've pissed off enough of the world's population that one guy doesn't really matter.

Bin Laden can't be the only guy on earth who can plan an attack.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:15 PM
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5. Agree -- I don't think it matters either. I think the movement has grown
exponentially and he isn't even a factor any more.

The reason I posted this is because they're talking about it on Tweety, and the government-types are still tossing his name around.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:20 PM
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7. Do they ever slip up and call him Emmanuel Goldstein?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:21 PM
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9. Sorry, I don't get the joke (but I'm sure it's clever and funny for those who do!) nt
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:32 PM
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15. No need to be left in the dark.
Just use the internet search engine of your choice.


Emmanuel Goldstein is a fictional character in George Orwell's classic novel Nineteen Eighty-Four. Despite being a key part of the story, he is never actually seen or heard, and may in fact be nothing more than a propaganda fabrication of the Ministry of Truth ("Minitrue").

In the novel, Goldstein is rumoured to be a former top member of the ruling (and sole) Party who had broken away early in the movement and started an organisation known as "The Brotherhood", dedicated to the fall of The Party. The novel raises but leaves unanswered the questions of whether Goldstein, "The Brotherhood," or even "Big Brother" really exist.

Each member of "The Brotherhood" is required to read the book supposedly written by Goldstein, The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism. Each person is said to have three or four contacts at one time which are replaced as people disappear, so that if a member is captured, he can only give up three or four others. Goldstein is always the subject of the "Two Minutes Hate," a daily, 2-minute period beginning at 11:00 AM at which a purported image of Goldstein is shown on the telescreen (a one-channel television with surveillance devices in it that can not be turned off). The reader may surmise that a political opposition to Big Brother— namely, Goldstein— was psychologically necessary in order to provide an internal enemy posing a threat to the rule of the Party; the constantly reiterated ritual of the Two Minutes Hate help ensure that popular support for and devotion towards Big Brother is continuous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Goldstein
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:44 PM
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19. Thanks! nt
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:32 PM
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16. He was Big Brother's perpetual scapegoat and bogey man from 1984.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:45 PM
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20. Thanks! See? It IS clever and funny! nt
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:23 PM
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11. yep
nt
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:26 PM
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14. I agree also. n/t
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:17 PM
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6. He is dead
but somebody else has taken his place. Why would they want us to know that or WHO?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:22 PM
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10. Who do you mean by "they"? The US or Al Q? nt
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:25 PM
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12. He's just the "Boogey Man."
In reality, one person cannot be responsible for ALL that much terrorist activity. It takes his followers to carry the rest of it out. He's just the figure head/Boogey Man/person they aim for.

Is he dead? I don't know.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:25 PM
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13. No.
If he was, his supporters would have made a martyr of him.

Also, he wouldn't be making recordings of himself discussing current events every few months.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:35 PM
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17. He must have gotten a miracle cure for his disease. Last photo I saw of him he looked
more dead than alive. Using a walking stick, carrying a dialysis bag.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:42 PM
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18. Aren't all the rumors about a kidney problem...
derived from a loony 9-11 twoofer conspiracy theory that he was getting medical attention at a U.S. Army base?
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cowcommander Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:46 PM
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22. I agree, he's still alive somewhere
A man like that doesn't just die quietly without the whole world knowing, and there's no reason for his supporters to keep it secret.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:45 PM
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21. I don't think he ever existed.
eom
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:38 PM
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30. If not, we would have had to invent him. So we did.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:47 PM
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23. Definitely dead
His funeral was reported in Pakistan newspapers in Dec, 2001.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:57 PM
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24. Bin Laden probably doesn't much care about my opinion
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:02 PM
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25. I haven't a clue. His message is alive and well though. And always will be IMO.
That doesn't mean I am supporting all of this war though. I think us being over there actually gives more support for their cause. But there has always been and always will be turmoil in that part of the world. Religious fanatics are nothing new. They are everywhere and always will be.
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:05 PM
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26. HEEEEEZZZZZ BAAAACK!
Bin Laden 'seen in Afghanistan in early 2009'
Dec 3, 2009


What would Superman be without Lex Luther?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8394470.stm

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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:22 PM
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28. Bin Laden is not that old. He's also VERY RICH.
So regardless of the rumors of his bad health, I'd come down on the side that says he's still alive.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:25 PM
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29. Benazit Bhutto said so
in that interview with David Frost and then she was dead.
I've never heard anyone on M$Greedia even mention that Frost interview.
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