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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:32 AM
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Sarah Palin's Father: 'Minority Types' Led Her to Quit Hawaii College
Here's a 'fun' fact that's been totally ignored by the m$m.

http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/news/2009/12/4/sarah_palins_father_minority_types_led.htm

Sarah Palin's Father: 'Minority Types' Led Her to Quit Hawaii College
Dec. 4, 2009
Rob Kuznia -- HispanicBusiness.com


By defending the "birther" movement's right to ask about the legitimacy of President Obama's citizenship, Sarah Palin this week has inadvertently invited media scrutiny of her own brief stint in Hawaii, where she attended college for one semester before returning home.

Although Palin says in her new book "Going Rogue" that she left because the incessant sunshine was a hindrance to serious studying, her own father, Chuck Heath, was quoted in a newly released Palin biography saying she left because the minorities made her uncomfortable, the Daily Beast points out.

"They were a minority type thing and it wasn't glamorous, so she came home," he told Scott Conroy and Shushannah Walshe, authors of "Sarah From Alaska," which was released last month.

On Thursday, Palin told conservative radio host Rusty Humphries that the "birther" movement had a right to question whether President Obama, a Hawaii native, was born in the United States.

"I think the public rightly is still making it an issue. I don't have a problem with that. I don't know if I would have to bother to make it an issue because I think there are enough members of the electorate that still want answers."
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:33 AM
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1. And it wasn't glamorous enough in Hawai'i?
So she went to . . . . drumroll . . . . Idaho.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:57 AM
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34. not when one is accustomed to the glamarama that is Alaska
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:11 PM
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59. Or Idaho
also known as the glamour state.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:22 PM
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65. What happened to the humbleness she so recently spoke of America getting back to?
:rofl:
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 02:01 PM
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128. can't get much whiter than idaho!
:eyes:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:34 AM
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2. Really, is anyone surprised that minorities "make her uncomfortable"?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:48 AM
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11. Could her discomfort there have been due to being a minority in that population?
We know she can dish crap out but not take it well. One could imagine she found she was not a member of the majority there. All those island ethnic groups has her white ass outnumbered?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:50 AM
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12. I'm sure--"OMG!! This ain't Idaho!"
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:28 AM
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21. Absolutely...she thought it was going to be like some Elvis in Hawaii movie...
starring Queen Sarah as the white goddess being catered to by the servile natives - "More poi, pretty lady?"
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:37 AM
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26. That would be my guess
Going to a place where another ethnic group is in the majority when you are 18 and used to white supremacy, must have torn her out of her frame.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:57 PM
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51. I suspect that might well be the situation she faced. Poor baby!
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:39 AM
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27. Or that all she cares about is "glamor"? nt
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 12:01 PM by tblue37
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:46 AM
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31. How many 18 year olds would go to Hawaii and hate it because
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 11:47 AM by TwilightGardener
there weren't enough white folks? Usually kids that age are at their MOST open-minded and enthusiastic about new cultures and experiences. She went there looking for a warm version of Idaho with beaches. That really says a lot about her. None of it good.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 06:38 AM
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112. I remember reading that all she wanted to was hang around the set of Magnum PI !
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:58 PM
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86. Sarah Palin’s favorite anti-Semite
September 11, 2008 | 9:40 am
Sarah Palin’s favorite anti-Semite
Posted by Brad A. Greenberg

... It turns out that a portion of Palin’s speech at the Republican National Convention was cribbed, with unidentified credit, from an early 20th century right-wing anti-Semite, Westbrook Pegler ... http://www.jewishjournal.com/thegodblog/item/sarah_palins_favorite_anti_semite_20080911/
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:35 AM
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3. What about the other 5 colleges she attended in 4 years?
I'm guessing her grades were minorities? :eyes:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:37 AM
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5. LOL
I was typing as you posted. :hi:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:36 AM
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4. And why did she leave the other four colleges?
Fugging dumb is the answer.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 12:27 PM
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124. Another fun fact: She left the first one because it rained too much
also in Hawai'i, but in Hilo on the Big Island. Seems Caribou Barbie's diligent research failed to turn up the fact that Hilo, on the windward side of the island, is far and away the rainiest city in America, averaging a whopping 138 inches a year. Also, it has even fewer haoles than Honolulu. And so, it was off to HPU, which maintains student housing in Waikiki.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:38 AM
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6. "enough members of the electorate (that) still want answers"
Yeah sarah, the fucking morons who buy your book and look at their radios about 8 hours a day.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:39 AM
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7. Pa Heath and his... ahem...proclivities...were instrumental in forming Palin's...
anger and arrested development.

And, unlike John Phillips, he is not capable of writing "California Dreamin'"
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:09 PM
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57. I agree. I'll bet he has an 'interesting' backkkground.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:19 PM
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79. No doubt
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 05:34 PM
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97. you have evidence for your charge that he sexually molested palin, or you're just spouting slime,
same as the other side?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 07:16 PM
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102. I have a good friend
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 07:17 PM by Blue_In_AK
who was a student of Chuck Heath's probably 30-35 years ago. Whatever else could be said about him (and my friend knows Sarah and is not a fan), at least back then he thought Chuck Heath was a good teacher, in fact one of his favorites. Of course, a lot can change in 30 years.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 09:41 PM
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106. Somebody mentioned that Sarah Palin is "downwardly mobile"
Her parents were both college-educated and by most accounts fairly bright, successful people. Sarah is dumb as a rock, though she did at least complete college. Her kids seem ready to be the stars of a white-trash reality show, notwithstanding the fact that the Palin's are actually quite wealthy due to the enormously high wages industrial workers get in Alaska.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 08:47 AM
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113. Why are you so readily willing to infer that is what I meant?
Hmmm...
I never stated that, did I?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:44 AM
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131. as i thought - just slime.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 09:38 PM
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105. Slimy inference won't cut it.
Have the balls to say it -- Or do you lack anything like evidence?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 09:07 AM
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116. I can't help the fact that you consider your inference to be "slimy"...
since "infer" and "imply" have different meanings.

I find sloppy language to be slimy, but that's just me...
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 01:13 PM
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125. Nice distraction
but a tad obvious.

You can't back up your slimy assertion. You couldn't do it for Hannah Bell and you can't do it for me.

Your credibiity?..Zero.

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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 01:31 PM
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126. It wasn't a distraction; it was an English lesson (n/t)
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 03:20 PM
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129. Sorry...
In the context of the exchange, it still counts as a distraction.


Maybe you could give yourself a biology lesson by growing a pair.

:evilgrin:
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:40 AM
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8. Which 'minority'
Would it have been the 'minority' that got better grades than she did? Might want to think that one out a bit, because that 'minority' could be 90% of the other students. Sarah is one dumb, dumb bunny.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:47 AM
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9. Who's the minority here?
I think this is a BS answer from Mr. Heath because IIRC, the Hawaiian population is not majority white.


http://www.infoplease.com/us/census/data/hawaii/demographic.html


This is unfortunate and shameful to blame others for one's shortcomings.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:01 AM
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17. Exactly...Caribou Barbie was uncomfortable because SHE was in the minority...
she is indeed a racist, but people are misreading Pa Heath's statement (although the substance remains the same)
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:33 AM
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23. I want my country back!
:cry:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:17 PM
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41. That's my take as well.
Same basic idea though, she left because she didn't like being surrounded by so many minorities.

She ended up graduating from Idaho, right? I'm sure she felt quite comfortable there.

:eyes:
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:07 PM
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54. I think her dad is loonier than Sarah. He is a weirdo.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:08 PM
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55. Quit and Palin, Quit and Palin, go together like a horse and carriage.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:48 AM
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10. In Hawaii, "minorities" are the majority.
Really, how stupid is this woman? And her pop sounds like a realy sweetheart. I can almost guarantee he's got a Klan robe in his closet. Only an idiot would actually say that out loud (tho I'm glad he did!).
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:56 AM
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13. The media will not touch this story either.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:02 PM
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52. Of course not that is what we are for. Send it around friends.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:56 AM
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14. Just last night, Coundown reported that Sarah titled one of her Facebook posts
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 10:57 AM by rocktivity
"Stupid Conspiracies."

:crazy:
rocktivity
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:58 AM
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15. And that was after she encouraged the
stupid conspiracy about Obama's birthplace.
Palin lives in an alternative reality - the valley of the Grifters.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:34 AM
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25. its going to bite her, she opened the floodgates to babygate
even after she tried to walk that back
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:03 PM
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53. Bingo! If anyone should keep quiet about birth certificates, It's Sarah!
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:34 PM
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68. Especially since she lied in that radio interview
and said that she had proved that she gave birth to Trig. That's a big, big lie that none of the media seems to have picked up on.

http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2009/12/saradise-lost-book-4-chapter-20-crazy.html
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 04:16 PM
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92. Great spot
She's a pathological LIAR.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 04:15 PM
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91. That's great
I'm sure Mittens is working on this as I type. :popcorn:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:00 AM
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16. This should lead to major embarrassment for her in the media
Her father is more closely associated with her than Ayers or the Rev. Wright with Obama.

Well, I'm not holding my breath. This is the M$M.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:08 AM
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18. What a desperately shallow person she is.
She's the perfect conservative - no depth at all in any area, thin skin, no self-awareness, no knowledge of the world, no sense of irony, strong sense of entitlement, victim mentality. What more could they want?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:24 AM
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19. This should be a story that is picked up by the MSM
but I seriously doubt it will.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:28 AM
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20. You raised A FUCKING QUITTER YOU PRICK recognize.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:31 AM
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22. xultar ~ I love your post because you always make it real!
Thanks for that one
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:00 PM
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36. For real!
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 12:01 PM by AspenRose
Usually in college you can either choose to follow what you're taught at home, or challenge some of those beliefs.

What does that say about the family of a person who is raised with beliefs like that? DUH, dad!

(And don't forget - she lost the Miss Alaska crown to a sista!)
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:21 PM
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64. Funny she didn't try to trash the winner in her book!
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:23 PM
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66. Well that would be a little too obvious, wouldn't you think?
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 01:36 PM by AspenRose
:think:

I bet she didn't think anyone overheard her "sambo beat the bitch" comment, either.

Do you think someone has to trumpet they're a bigot in order to BE a bigot? Do you think that unless they use the N word, they can't be a bigot?

From the "Actions speak louder than words, know them by their fruits, known by the company you keep" department:

http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/519896

"In Alaska, blacks chafed when Palin opposed a proclamation endorsing a festival that marks the freeing of slaves. On the campaign trail, her events sometimes have attracted fringe groups hostile to minorities. At one rally attended by Palin, a supporter told a black cameraman to "sit down, boy.'"

Honestly, elements of racism followed this woman wherever she went during the campaign, and she didn't say *anything* during any of her speeches that would have been considered *overtly* racist. Doesn't mean she's not a bigot.

I am amazed at the number of people here who continue to stick their heads in the sand regarding dog-whistling.

Wait, no I'm not....

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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:34 PM
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69. Oh, I have no doubt she's a bigot. And I don't think she's clever enough to avoid the obvious,
it might have been in the book if not for her writer.

We know that's why she only does facebook or online comments because they're done by someone else. And we (and the McCain campaign) know that every time she opens her mouth unscripted she puts her foot in it.

She's "gone rogue" for the very purpose of saying what she wants. And when it's not supervised, critiqued, or written by someone else (like the Sambo comment, like her hate-mongering campaign speechs) it will be guaranteed to add to her downfall.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 06:56 PM
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100. I'll never forget the clip of her rally, where you could hear the crowd chanting something horrible
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 06:57 PM by BlancheSplanchnik
disgusting, no BEYOND disgusting... I can't even describe how repulsive it was.

---and she stood there, beaming out on them, her followers.

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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:05 PM
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75. And how many black folk live in ak? Seriously shows how deficient palin is.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:33 AM
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24. Because it's always someone else's fault
Yet another subtext in this pathetic remark.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:42 AM
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29. Yes--she would have stayed and enjoyed Hawaii if it had been predominantly white.
That's really what ChucKKK Heath is saying.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:41 AM
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28. sarah, your ignorance combined with your ambition puts you in a minority....
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 11:41 AM by spanone
you are one sick puppy
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:42 AM
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30. I don't believe she ever went to college in Hawaii. Let's see a transcript.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:33 PM
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43. WHERE'S THE TRANSCRIPT?
:rofl:
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:53 AM
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32. Gee how come she is so prejudiced.
her family came from Canada and Ireland back in the 1850's they haven't been here that long to think they are better than anybody. Were not the Irish discriminated against when they first came to this country...You would think they of all people would not be prejudiced. And most people from Canada accept everyone well.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 09:19 PM
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103. Right.
At one time, the Irish were considered 'people of color'. They could legally marry non whites in Louisiana at a time of laws prohibiting mixed race marriages.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:57 AM
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33. She, along with Cokie Roberts, realized Hawaii isn't "real America."
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 11:58 AM by AspenRose
:eyes:

Kudos to HispanicBusiness.com
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:00 PM
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37. This woman just gags me.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:01 PM
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38. LOL! And I thought that Levi running his mouth would be her end!
:rofl:
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:12 PM
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39. It's not just being surrounded and
out-numbered by brown people (OMG --- THE HORROR!). Quite frequently many neocons/repubs live their whole lives in areas of extremely homogenous population, where everyone looks the same, goes to the same church (and you can be damn sure its a church, not a temple or a mosque), vote the same way and pretty much have the same insular fears, suspicions and prejudices of anyone outside the immediate circle of what/who they know and are comfortable with. They ought to come to NYC and take a quick, little ride on the Number 7 train in Queens and see every color of the rainbow and the diversity of faces, accents & languages that look & sound like a mini U.N. General Assembly. And some of "them" are not even christians!!!! Can you believe it??? :sarcasm:
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:49 PM
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47. She really should have gone to Harlem and had lunch in a soul food
restaurant - It would have educated her.....LOL. Another opportunity lost.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:55 PM
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74. She would have had an O'Reilly moment
"M-Fer, I want more iced tea!" :rofl:

http://mediamatters.org/research/200709210007
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:59 PM
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87. Haha, I was thinking of that but couldn't remember the name of the
restaurant. She's a sad sack and so out of touch....
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:44 PM
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109. George W. bUsh seriously thought NOONE in Texas was poor. NO ONE.
He truly seriously believed that. He accused the senate of conspiracy when Texas was listed as one of the most poverty-stricken states of the union.

I mean...:wow:
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:18 PM
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110. How would he know? And Katrina
proved he didn't give a #### about poor people or those in need of assistance to survive. He was raised in utmost, upper-class privilege, worked, associated & travelled only with other people of his class & background, and when he was President only bonafide, pre-screened, proven Bush supporters could attend any of his events which were all carefully staged and scripted. No hoi-polloi wanted. Only good, country-club Republican stock, preferably those willing to fork over hefty $$$ contributions. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Poppy Bush was stunned and amazed to discover scanner checkout technology existed at supermarkets. Never saw it. Never knew about it. Probably never shopped for himself in his entire life.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 04:20 PM
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130. Republicans are so far out of touch with reality, they haven't a clue.
They thought Canada was spying on the US through Canadian coins... :wow:

There is a point where total ignorance is extremely dangerous. That point is republicans.

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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:15 PM
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40. That statement + her birther statement should help her even more with the republicans. nt
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CoffinEd Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:41 PM
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70. Absolutely!
Yep, I bet her photo on the bat-shit crazy conservative 'Wall of Fame' is currently being raised a little higher.
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:27 PM
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42. Color me surprised...
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:34 PM
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44. Anyone remember Palin saying "Sambo beat the bitch" referencing Obama's win over Hillary Clinton?
I certainly do.

This isn't surprising at all. She's from Sandpoint, Idaho, the area where Aryan Nations and a lot of white supremacist radio personalities took up shop.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:34 PM
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45. Translation: Anyone that was sane made her uncomfortable.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:41 PM
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46. North Star: Populism, politics, and the power of Sarah Palin (New Yorker)
by Sam Tanenhaus
December 7, 2009

... . In “Sarah from Alaska” (PublicAffairs; $26.95), Scott Conroy and Shushannah Walshe, who covered Palin’s Vice-Presidential campaign for CBS and Fox News, respectively, give a balanced and well-reported, if not especially searching, account of Palin’s career ... The natural-gas pipeline that she claimed as her signal accomplishment is “still theoretical" ... Her “genius was to transform a sleepy municipal election into a philosophical grudge match,” Matthew Continetti writes ... She is equally circumspect on the issue of ethnicity, pointing out that Todd, whom she met in high school, is “part Yupik Eskimo” and opened her to the “social diversity” of Alaska. (Wasilla is more than eighty per cent white.)Palin, though notoriously ill-travelled outside the United States, did journey far to the first of the four colleges she attended, in Hawaii. She and a friend who went with her lasted only one semester. “Hawaii was a little too perfect,” Palin writes. “Perpetual sunshine isn’t necessarily conducive to serious academics for eighteen-year-old Alaska girls.” Perhaps not. But Palin’s father, Chuck Heath, gave a different account to Conroy and Walshe. According to him, the presence of so many Asians and Pacific Islanders made her uncomfortable: “They were a minority type thing and it wasn’t glamorous, so she came home.” In any case, Palin reports that she much preferred her last stop, the University of Idaho, “because it was much like Alaska yet still ‘Outside’ ” ... In her speech at the Republican Convention, Palin cited the example of Harry Truman, “a young farmer and haberdasher from Missouri” who “followed an unlikely path to the Vice-Presidency.” But Truman’s early years were spent in preparation for some future exemplary role, and for the historical destiny that he hoped, against all odds, he might someday fulfill. He regarded his ordinariness as something to be overcome, not celebrated. Though often derided in his day as a “little man,” he closely studied the lives of the greats, with special emphasis on antiquity—Hannibal, Cincinnatus, Scipio, Cyrus the Great—and consciously patterned himself after them. “Reading history, to me, was far more than a romantic adventure,” he said. “It was solid instruction and wise teaching which I somehow felt that I wanted and needed.” As President, he formed a strong bond with his Secretary of State, Dean Acheson, a product of Yale and Harvard, and a bugbear of Joseph McCarthy and his congressional allies, whom Acheson described as “political primitives.” The appetite for betterment that drove Truman is strangely absent in Palin. Though she says that she was a voracious reader in childhood, she nowhere indicates what she learned about politics or governance from books, from the college courses she took, or even from more experienced officeholders in Alaska. She (or her collaborator) sprinkles nuggets from Plato and Pascal, but is more convincing when she cites a motivational maxim from “author and former football coach Lou Holtz.” When the call came from John McCain to discuss her possible place on the ticket, Palin, in her favored idiom, didn’t blink. It was confirmation of her self-assessment. “I certainly didn’t think, Well, of course this would happen. But neither did I think, What an astonishing idea. It seemed more comfortable than that, like a natural progression.” It may have seemed less natural to advisers who, prepping her for interviews and debates, were startled by the gaping holes in her knowledge. When Fred Barnes, the Weekly Standard editor and writer, asked Palin who her favorite thinker was, she replied, “You.” Barnes has observed that Palin’s “Republican heroes, besides McCain, come to a grand total of two, Reagan and Lincoln” ... http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2009/12/07/091207crbo_books_tanenhaus?printable=true
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:16 PM
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61. That quote in context is just awful. That family is horribly racist.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:47 PM
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84. “So Sambo beat the bitch!” This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described
Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination. According to Lucille, the waitress serving her table at the time and who asked that her last name not be used, Gov. Palin was eating lunch with five or six people when the subject of the Democrat’s primary battle came up. The governor, seemingly not caring that people at nearby tables would likely hear her, uttered the slur and then laughed loudly as her meal mates joined in appreciatively. “It was kind of disgusting,” Lucille, who is part Aboriginal, said in a phone interview after admitting that she is frightened of being discovered telling folks in the “lower 48” about life near the North Pole ...
Alaskans Speak (In A Frightened Whisper): Palin Is “Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, And Mean”
by Charley James posted on Friday, 5 September 2008
http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/05/alaskans-speak-in-a-frightened-whisper-palin-is-%E2%80%9Cracist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean%E2%80%9D/
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:52 PM
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48. Oh that's rich! Thanks for finding it... nt
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:53 PM
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49. Whites hate being in the minority. My Hawaii story:
While in Hawaii, I got to talking with a white Army nurse who worked at Tripler. She complained bitterly about the racism in Hawaii against her, a white person. "It's so much more racist in Hawaii than in Kansas, where I come from."

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DeschutesRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:09 PM
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56. My dh was born in Kansas, lived in various places around the world, including Hawaii
He is white with a german/swedish heritage.

He went to high school there, and has fond memories of it - he would go back to live there in a heartbeat (honestly, as we age, it comes up frequently that we should spend a few years there if possible before our expiration date).

While he knows the derogatory terms that the locals used for the whites there, he also knows the bad terms that whites every where he has lived use for "others", and I have never heard him say that Hawaii was a place where racists live in abundance. He never saw it that way.

I think that white Army nurse is just projecting the racism she has in her own heart on to the actions of others.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:14 PM
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60. That Army nurse had a real problem with perspective
In her mind, the only "racist" places are those where whites aren't the kingpins.

I wanted to ask her if she thought African Americans would agree that there was no racism in Kansas. But I'm too polite.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:42 PM
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71. dh = designated hitter? deceased husband?
Just wonderin'. I don't mean to be snarky.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:48 PM
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73. Usually means 'dear husband'
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:19 PM
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62. One of my (white) friends applied to school in the caribbean
and got a taste of what she thought it was like to be in the minority.

She complained about how the locals would give preference to other blacks and minorities of color (even if they were foreign visitors) for bartering, over foreign whites. According to her, the people of color got the "better deals."

I think secretly a lot of white people fear this for our country when the minorities become the majority. They fear "payback time."
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:26 PM
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67. Really? Which Island? because that has not been my experience..

In the Caribbean, the locals tend to target whites - because the assumption is they are more affluent - also there are many whites that have been there for generations, and are actually locals themselves...
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:47 PM
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72. St Kitts
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 02:12 PM by AspenRose
And you'll notice I referred to "foreign whites," not local whites.

What she relayed to me was according to her personal perspective. She grew up in the south, aware of past historical racial tensions, and she was used to being in the ethnic majority, so I suspect being a minority all of a sudden gave her a perspective she was not familiar with, and she didn't know what to make of it.

I'm not saying that what she said happened did or didn't happen, or that she was reading into something that didn't really happen, but everyone's perspectives are colored in part by their own past experiences, and what they think they're seeing/experiencing based on that (pun not intended).

The explanation could have been as simple as not knowing how to barter! But who knows...
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 12:12 PM
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121. Upon thinking about it, you've actually reinforced her point
(It's too late to edit my last post)

I think she felt the locals targeted her because they thought she was white and affluent (and they realized she was foreign to boot). That's what she meant by saying the people of color got the better deals (I don't know if she saw any local whites). She thought the locals of color were getting the cheapest prices and she felt she was paying more. Which pretty much validates what you're saying.

And that particular experience got her thinking about what life as a minority might be like. Being a privileged southern white, she never had to think about that before.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 12:19 PM
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123. I don't think that sort of racism applies to Hawaii, though.
Edited on Sun Dec-06-09 12:19 PM by mainer
Hawaii's governor is a white female. Many of its bankers and top business people are white as well. They wouldn't get there if they were discriminated against.

And let's not forget Hawaii has the highest number of multi-racial babies in the country. There's no better sign of integration than intermarriage.

Of all places I've visited, I think Hawaii's the state that most seems comfortable with its multi-ethnicity. If Sarah couldn't handle even Hawaii, then she's truly a racist.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:56 PM
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50. Minorities? You mean like native Hawaiians? n/t
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 04:23 PM
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93. you hit it.
"minorities" to her sperm donor equal dark skinned people. Thanx for noticing.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:10 PM
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58. Her father Chuck sounds like a real prize too.
Imagine a dick like that trashing you in public!

(Not supporting the insane policies of the completely irresponsible Palin, but a father like that?)
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:20 PM
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63. I don't think he was trying to trash her. He's just stupid and racist.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:06 PM
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76. I think you just made my point stronger.
:D
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:09 PM
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77. "I was expecting Elvis and Jack Lord."
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 02:36 PM by SalmonChantedEvening
It wasn't homogenized. So Sarah, being the quitter she is, ran home.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:21 PM
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80. "It wasn't anything like when the Brady Bunch went to Hawaii"
x(
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:39 PM
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82. I'm dreaming of a Whitekiki.
Hiya tanyev :hug: :loveya:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:59 PM
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88. Best Hawaii travel documentary ever!



Hiya, Salmon! :hi:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 08:51 AM
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114. I think THAT is the absolute truth
She has a tabloid/TV/pop culture mind
and her view of the world is formed by that
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:19 PM
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78. If the birther movement gets to question Obama, we get to question their racism.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 03:12 PM
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90. McCain/Palin supporters let their racist roots show (2008 - with video)
By David Neiwert Thursday Oct 16, 2008 9:31am

... “I’m afraid if he wins, the blacks will take over. He’s not a Christian! This is a Christian nation! What is our country gonna end up like?” ...

“Just the whole, Muslim thing, and everything, and everybody’s still kinda - a lot of people have forgotten about 9/11, but… I dunno, it’s just kinda… a little unnerving.”

“Obama and his wife, I’m concerned that they could be anti-white. That he might hide that.”

“I don’t like the fact that he thinks us white people are trash… because we’re not!” ...

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/mccainpalin-supporters-let-their-rac
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:23 PM
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81. HAHAHA hahahahaha Oh my God thank you for that laugh.
still giggling. I can just imagine her here.

Not so funny is what a frikken bigot that shows her to be.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:42 PM
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83. Wait...wouldn't she have been a minority in Hawaii?
I sure was, with my blonde hair....what a Haole I was.

I hate Sarah even more now.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:53 PM
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85. Damn "Minority Type" Hawaiians
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 02:56 PM by Politicalboi
Living in their native state of Hawaii. Making poor little Sarah feel uncomfortable. On Hawaii 50 it doesn't seem so dark. Where's Dano and Steve? I guess Sarah didn't read anything about Hawaii. Because who would have known they had so much sun there. And besides, you can't see Hawaiiya from Alaska.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 03:00 PM
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89. She just quits everything she starts, doesn't she? nt
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 04:31 PM
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94. "incessant sunshine" and cannot study
Doesn't look like she is able to study whether it's raining, snowing or the sun is shining. No intellectual curiosity whatsoever. There is an excuse for everything.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 04:34 PM
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95. Nice one, Palin's dad. Nice one.
:rofl:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 04:35 PM
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96. a racist Republican - now there's a novel concept
:eyes:
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 05:41 PM
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98. Wait a minute. White people made here uncomforatable?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 06:40 PM
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99. brown skinned people bothered her soooo much
that she ran to Idaho then Alaska. I guess she figured her contact with "those minority" typed would be limited in them neck of the woods?:shrug:
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 07:03 PM
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101. So no wonder she's buying into the "birther" bullshit.
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 07:04 PM by Withywindle
She didn't like Hawai'i because it has too many brown people to be "real America." So Obama, being from there, is obviously not a "real American." He might as well have been born in Kenya, what's the difference? After all, lots of brown people, palm trees...hell, all those places look the same to her and none of them are "real America." She probably thinks Puerto Ricans are illegal immigrants, too.

(Florida doesn't count. Florida is different. There are lots of Klansmen and rednecks and Cuban anti-commie terrorists there, so that's "real America" despite the brown people and palm trees.)
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 09:22 PM
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104. My ex-gf's father left U of H for a similar reason
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 09:42 PM by ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Said he was treated poorly by the native Hawaiians, and he couldn't figure out for any other reason than he wasn't one of them. He wasn't a freeper or a loudmouth either. He didn't feel "uncomfortable" around them until they treated him rudely.

I'm sure Sarah's ignorance helped her demise, however. Plus, she's a fucking quitter.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 09:48 PM
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107. Poor Darlene McBride---Er, Sarah Palin
Wouldn't want her to be uncomfortable, would we?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:33 PM
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108. Well...since the US "minorities" are fast becoming the "majority", let's make sure
Americans hear what daddy Palin' says...

"minorities made her uncomfortable"


Good luck with that, Ms Quitter!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:18 PM
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111. So she didn't know that Hawaii is the only state where whites are a minority?
Silly her.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 09:00 AM
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115. Palin's dad and Mel Gibson's dad should get together...
These two birds of a feather could get real chummy over discussions about "minority-types," and how the Holocaust never happened, or any other crackpot reactionary crap.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 09:40 AM
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117. Those pesky minority types...
Causing discomfort. Who knew there would be any in Hawaii?
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 09:52 AM
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118. the minority types
weren't glamorous enough for her? wow. of course this will endear her even more to her base. they are that base.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:23 AM
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119. Yep, Sarah is a bigot through and through.
Stupid, bigoted, racist, loud, mean - gee, Sarah, no wonder so many people think you're a moron.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:28 AM
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120. I see the nut didn't fall too far from the tree
:rofl:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 12:17 PM
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122. being from alaska- maybe she wasn't used to seeing sun-tans...
and all those brown people really freaked her out.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 02:00 PM
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127. ugh
and to think i couldn't stand her any more than i did! she can stay her racist ass in alaska!
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:48 AM
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132. This won't make her followers like her any less.
In fact, they will feel empathy for her. They will identify with her.
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