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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:46 AM
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Gates: No good intelligence on bin Laden - Jones: Bin Laden still spends time in Afghanistan
Edited on Sun Dec-06-09 10:52 AM by bigtree
Sunday, December 6, 2009; 10:28 AM

WASHINGTON -- National security adviser James Jones says al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden still spends some time inside Afghanistan.

Most recent U.S. estimates have placed bin Laden inside Pakistan. But Jones, a retired general, says the al-Qaida leader is "sometimes on the Pakistani side of the border, sometimes on the Afghan side of the border."

"We're going to have to get after that to make sure that this very, very important symbol of what al-Qaida stands for is either, once again, on the run or captured or killed," Jones said.

read: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/06/AR2009120600918_pf.html


but . . .



12/06/09 10:21 AM ET

US Defense Secretary Robert Gates says would 'go and get' bin Laden if it could gather reliable information on his whereabouts

U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates says it has been "years" since the United States had good intelligence on the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden.

Speaking in an interview to be aired on Sunday on ABC's "This Week" program, Gates also said he could not confirm reports this week that a detainee might have seen bin Laden in Afghanistan earlier this year.

read: http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/war/Gates-No-Good-Intelligence-on-bin-Laden-78631317.html
http://www.centralchronicle.com/viewnews.asp?articleID=21075
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:52 AM
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1. What BS
They know exactly where he is. If he's killed, they'd have to end the "War on Terror." Plain and simple.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 11:17 AM
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8. Are your kidding? No one thinks terrorism is confined to Bin Laden
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:58 AM
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2. Why is Gates Secy of Defense? He is PNAC.. Neocon....
Of course they have no good intelligence on Bin Laden.. he's dead.

Is the CIA still sending him paychecks?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:58 AM
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3. What do they do carry his coffin in and out of Afghanistan and Pakistan?
Speaking of intelligence or lack of it, this is another thing the Bush/Cheney administration dropped the ball on.
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mcablue Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:59 AM
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4. You heard it. We have to support the surge. Bin Laden hangs out in Afghanistan
According to a member of a group that never lies: The military.
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 11:11 AM
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6. Quiz..... undergroung but not in a cave.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 11:05 AM
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5. Also, from the BBC about the mythical superbogeyman and Gates.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8397684.stm

When asked by ABC's This Week programme when the US last had any good intelligence on the whereabouts of the al-Qaeda leader, Mr Gates said: "I think it's been years."

Last week, UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown called on Pakistan to do more to find Mr Bin Laden.

"We've got to ask ourselves why, eight years after September the 11th, nobody has been able to spot or detain or get close to Osama bin Laden, nobody's been able to get close to Zawahiri, the number two in al-Qaeda," he said.

Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani responded by saying he did not think Bin Laden was in Pakistan, and that his country had yet to be given any "credible or actionable information" by the US on Bin Laden.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 11:12 AM
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7. "he's here, he's there,
he's everywhere, that damned Pimpernel!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 11:22 AM
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9. here's the retired jones and one of his buddies
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