At this point, is it politically possible to reverse the Afghanistan escalation without

[Atticus]

"Lyndonizing" Obama?

I don't see a way out that doesn't involve a "rescue" of the nation by the GOP. Will the next Nixon soon be referencing their "secret plan" to get us out of the Afghanistan quagmire?

I fear that President Obama has defined his presidency with this decision to emulate his predecesssor and may have made himself a lame duck before finishing his first year. I just don't see him regaining momentum. And, please don't give me that "Support our President" speech. I want him to succeed, but I want him to succeed with an agenda that is clearly different than what is promoted by the PNA and the Club for Growth.

Sorry this is such a downer. Just having a hard time feeling like anything but the Last Liberal in America.

[Truth2Tell]

1. u r not alone. nt

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. He may have bitten the poison apple on this one.

In the end, Biden's drone idea would have worked better than this shit, however the generals had nothing to gain by it.

[eleny]

3. Or they can declare victory and leave in 18 months

Great timing for an election. But at what price in blood?

You aren't alone. The question I ask is, how will a 5000 man Afghan army protect the people of Afghanistan? And what genius thought we'd swallow that scenario?

[babylonsister]

4. Get lost. Who is he emulating when he spent so much time

making a decision? No one that I know of. :eyes:

[Atticus]

8. Get lost?

Of course, Obama took more time to reach his decision. But, in the end, he made a decision that Mary Matalin and others are praising as implementing the "Bush Doctrine".

Excuse me. That makes me want to hurl, OK?

And, sadly, it's time that someone mentioned that your "support" of the President may have devolved into some pretty transparent cheerleading. Facts are facts and your post in disingenuous spin. You are capable of a lot better as you've often demonstrated.

[msongs]

10. yeah as in "Get lost", drop dead, FO, don't disagree with the priestesses of the temple nt

[babylonsister]

14. Do you have any more words of wisdom or are you always so vapid? nt

[babylonsister]

13. Your support of Mary Matlin, being Cheney's cheerleader,

is a bit disingenuous. Sorry, I'm not buying it.

And of course the rethugs like it; war is good for them.

I thought the argument is how he arrived at his decision.

I don't agree, but I've not been privy to what he has, so I have no clue. Nor has that termagant Matlin.

[Atticus]

15. My SUPPORT of Mary Matalin, Gracie?

If you SERIOUSLY interpret my post as SUPPORTING Ms. Matalin (R-Witch), you need to share whatever you're smokin'. Be assured, though, that I respect anyone who can casually throw "termagant" into a reply!

[FrenchieCat]

5. Or we can just wait and see......

Cause we do have some time you know.

[NYC_SKP]

6. Plenty of time...

You're right, there's plenty of time.

Plenty of time to worry about crap that ain't gonna happen.

[NYC_SKP]

7. "Lyndonizing Obama" suggests losing the white house to the GOP in 2012. If that happens...

...we'll have plenty more to worry about than Obama's legacy.

If you're suggesting that they'll "get us out of this", in some other way, the odds seem pretty long for that happening.

I think maybe you're worrying too much about this particular thing.

[Atticus]

9. No, I don't think the morally bankrupt GOP will "get us out of this".

But, we may wind up giving them the opportunity to simply rebrand our failure as their success. They are the "war party", after all. They'd be as happy as pigs in shit to preside over an escalation against dark-skinned non-Christians for the purpose of securing more gas for their Hummers.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. Not to worry. We now have a (sort of) Light at the end of the tunnel. And, a "plan".

Of course, it's the same plan that we used in that other war that we are assured isn't like this one....several times...which means it must be so. And, just like that other war that it isn't like, the light keeps moving farther away.

[ecstatic]

12. He is not emulating his predecessor

Geez... GWB ignored Afghanistan for 8 years.