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PHIMG Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:26 PM
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The pathway to President Palin
Edited on Mon Dec-07-09 12:30 PM by PHIMG
Here's the most likely way as I see it.

We all act like obedient little "good Democrats" drinking the cool-aid that Rahm is feeding us. We let the administration and the conservadems continue to move to party to the right, undermining our values, blurring further the line between the parties on economic matters, alienating our activist base, and demotivating the rank and file so much that they see no reason to vote.

That's the course we're on. It's a creepy echo of the Clinton era except this time it's occurring much faster - disillusionment on internet time.

Progressive democrats have a patriotic duty to resist this. No candidate deserves unflinching support especially one that is running so fast from the values that drove his campaign.

WE MUST ALL TO SAY "NO" TO RAHM'S "COMPASSIONATE CORPORATISM" AGENDA and "YES WE CAN" to a REAL DEMOCRATIC AGENDA of "CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN."

A good place to begin is to push the Congress to start over on healthcare reform with Medicare For All, or if the "Insurance Company Profit Preservation Act" does pass - to run a strong candidate in the next primary who makes a "Medicare For All" DO OVER the primary plank of his or her campaign.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:29 PM
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1. Screw Palin
we're going to get killed in the mid terms next year...'94 all over again.
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PHIMG Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:31 PM
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2. +1. Yes that too, sadly.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:32 PM
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3. Then the Dem leadership can revert to its Professional Victimhood
waaah waaah It's not our fault it's the Republicans!
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:33 PM
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5. I actually am beginning to think that it what Harry Reid wants. It is easier to
be the minority leader and just blame the R's in leadership for the problems than it is to actually LEAD.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:33 PM
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4. Pathway to nowhere....If America wants to crash and burn, I can't stop them
And they will deserve what they get....
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:35 PM
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6. Mark my words
Bookmark this thread and if I'm wrong you can rub my nose in it later.

SARAH.PALIN.WILL.NOT.RUN.FOR.PRESIDENT.

She is going to start with a Jesusy-political talk show and parlay that into a full-fledged religious network/organization in the style of Pat Roberts or James Dobsen. There's more money in selling God and far less accountability.

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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:52 PM
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11. I believe we'd sooner see
President MICHAEL Palin than Iquitarod Palin in that office - and he's not even a citizen, so it would require a constitutional amendment for that to happen!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:57 PM
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13. I'll go ya one better
I'll wager a $10 donation to DU that the Democrats maintain sizable majorities in both the House and the Senate in 2010, losing no more than two Senate seats and less than a dozen House seats.

Selling doom and gloom? I'm full up here; return to sender.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 10:41 PM
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20. she wants to be a next Rush Limbaugh, not the next president.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:39 PM
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7. so it is all Rahm's fault . . .
I agree that we have far too much emphasis and support for the corporate agenda. But I don't think you can pin it all on Rahm. You might look at his boss.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:41 PM
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8. This is ridiculous. Rahm isn't a puppeteer.
This garbage about it all being Rahm is beyond ludicrous.
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PHIMG Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 03:07 PM
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14. Rahm is the one bullying progressives to "get in line" n/t
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:44 PM
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9. Why do people think we have the choice not to "let them"?
Why do people think that a congressional minority (progressives) has power over a congressional majority (Repub + Conservadem)?

The only thing you can do is vote for the conservadem/Republican in your general election (or not vote, vote third party, etc). This is certainly doable. But it would simply result in a SMALLER progressive minority, and a LARGER conservative majority. If that's your idea of change, you might want to rethink posting on the current message board.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:46 PM
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10. Buzz Windrip, 2012
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:57 PM
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12. That's like the tactics the right uses to scare people into doing what they want.
Edited on Mon Dec-07-09 01:01 PM by county worker
Vote to screw yourself or else we'll screw you.

They majority of voters are somewhere center left or center right. If we pushed a far left agenda we would get more conservatives in power than you can shake a stick at.

I am just as wanting a left wing agenda as the next DUer but there is a way to go about it. It can't be made to seem like it is pushed down voters' throats. It has do be done with the support of the majority. That takes time and patience. Like planting seeds. You have to plant them, nourish them and wait for the fruit. Too fast and you have nothing!
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 03:09 PM
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15. Unrec, because first off Clinton won 2 terms
secondly liberals that tear down the president will be a major reason there is a chance for a President Palin. Denial of that reality will have serious consequences for our nation.
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PHIMG Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 03:17 PM
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16. Clinton the worst thing to happen to the Democratic party.
Rahm sets up a war room in the White House to get NATA passed, they guts Welfare, reinforces Republican frames and Reagan Deregulation, repeal Glass Steagle, set the stage for Iraq II: Weapons of Mass Destruction Boogaloo... I could go on.

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 03:27 PM
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17. You could go on but it wouldn't help support your claims
you forget the judges Clinton appointed... The civil rights he protected... the FACT that welfare reform HELPED those on welfare... That Clinton saved a million lives in Kosavo... that he brought peace to Northern Ireland... that he protected reproductive rights... that he brought prosperity to the nation and eliminated the deficit spending... that he kept the Country pretty safe... Don't try and rewrite history by ignoring all the good the man did. Plus Clinton was the ONLY Dem to win in 7 presidential terms, which eliminates fantasy candidates who can't enact anything because they can't win the election.
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PHIMG Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 03:32 PM
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18. What history am I trying to re-write?
Edited on Mon Dec-07-09 03:34 PM by PHIMG
If he was so great, and left his party in such great shape, then his successor should have sailed to victory right? Oh wait he didn't. Wonder why that is.

Because he was, (and Gore following his example then) governed as compassionate Republican and the activist base knew that and stayed home or gave their vote to Nader.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 09:23 PM
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