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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:37 PM
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ACORN prober: No illegal conduct on videos- Internal report finds no pattern of criminal behavior
GOP cries foul

WASHINGTON - An internal investigation of the community-organizing group ACORN concluded there was no criminal conduct by employees caught on videos offering advice on how to hide assets and falsify lending documents.

The report, which ACORN's CEO described as "part vindication, part constructive criticism and complete roadmap for the future," was unlikely to stem continuing political criticisms of the group and its efforts.

In a 47-page assessment that former Massachusetts Attorney General Scott Harshbarger was commissioned by the organization to do, he said ACORN leaders "appear committed to effect reform and are on their way to preserving ACORN and its mission in a reduced size and scope."


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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:38 PM
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1. Have you noticed
GOP been crying foul a lot lately.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:40 PM
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2. But if we just believed whatever the GOPygs said
then they would always be right.

:sarcasm:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:45 PM
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6. Which is pretty odd considering
they had no problem committing fouls when they were in power
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:13 PM
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16. Like an Italian soccer team.
They think if they do it enough, the refs will let them win.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:41 PM
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3. Well, that is that then
Case closed.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:51 PM
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8. No it's not nor should it be closed.
It was clear to anyone looking at those tapes when they first came out, that only one of them even came close to anything that could be criticized. It was also made clear pretty shortly afterwards that the Rove wannabes who set them up, were lying (big surprise) about what actually happened to them as a result of their racist stunt. They lied about police reports, about how the workers responded to them and even about, it seems, what they were weariong. This is a crime, not to mention the crimes they committed in two states that still have not been prosecuted.

This case not only should not be closed, Democrats should be screaming for justice for ACORN, they should be apologizing for that anti-Constitutional bill they passed and they should fighting for more, not less fundiing for ACORN one of the few groups of people in this country who actually care about the rights of the poor and minorities.

But most of all, there should be a thorough investigation into who has been funding the liars on the right to go out and try to entrap people illegally and apologies need to be made to at least two of the workers who were libeled and slandered by the scum from the right. These people are dangerous to this democracy and ARE part of a big cabal on the right that has been gathering power for 30 years and whose goal it is to completely destroy any opposition to their fascist agenda.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:41 PM
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4. What a surprise.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:44 PM
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5. They need to reinstate the two employees who
were so badly smeared when Dems, like the cowards (or are they complicit) they usually are, ran as fast as they could to support Roves army of distorters.

Especially Juan Carlos Vera who never went along with the two liars, Giles and his prostitute, but in fact did call the police.

I really am disgusted with Democrats at this point. Obama too, used ACORN when he needed them, then dumped them as soon as the rightwing went after them. Always wanting to please the far right, to get a pat on the head from them, and never, ever succeeding. The struggle for approval from the right in the Dem Party is just plain nauseating, and they are willing to allow the destruction of decent people in the pursuit of that so-hard-get approval from the authoritarians on the right.

Can we get some people with guts in this party before it's too late?
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:30 PM
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18. Yes! Juan Carlos Vera should get his job back if he wants it.
He did nothing wrong and was smeared anyway.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:45 PM
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7. Too late. Mission accomplished.
Because Congress jumped on the accusers' bandwagon.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:51 PM
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9. BINGO!
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:54 PM
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10. Congress needs to rescind that unConstitutional bill
and they need to do it with as much fanfare as the voted for it. Imagine Democrats rushing, without any investigation at all, to sign a bill written by the likes of that fool, Issa.

If only they would rush so fast to sign a bill that would provide health care for all Americans, or to stop a war, or something. But for this, it was practically a stampede to see who could 'please' their overlords on the right fast enough.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 03:58 PM
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14. yupyup
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:54 PM
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11. The Rs slandered them and that was their intent, factual or not. People will tend to remember
the bad and not the good. That's what the Rs wanted. Everyday the Rs take this country further downhill for the majority of us IMO.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 03:04 PM
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12. They have an unquestioning media on their side.
It's like the GOP's Shamwow. They can do this all day.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 03:57 PM
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13. This is so true! When I was young we used to have true investigative reporting, but
that seems far gone now for the most part now we have just a few media outlets. Fortunately, we still have the internet until the RW media finally figures out how to really strangle it too.

One day, the citizens of this country will look back and say WTF. How did this happen. To me, DU is sadly a rarity in this country, anymore. A lot of people on DU question the status quo in a good way, but I do think a majority of the country does not for one reason or another, and that is tragic. Instead, often they listen to and believe the RW sound bites, as well as the inane RW political ads and propaganda. And, there is so much RW disinformation.

I find so many in the country so gullible. They don't look behind the curtains and charades to learn what is really going on, hence many are putty to mold into whatever.
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:09 PM
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15. You do realize ACORN paid for that report?
I doubt this standard would be allowed in exonerating any other organization.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 05:55 PM
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19. No one needed this report to know what happened.
And it's a disgrace that they did have to pay for it. This investigation should have been done by the Democrats in Congress and by the media. Sad that there is just no one willing to fight the rightwing smear machine and that Rove remains a revered figure in US politics.
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 06:20 PM
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20. Why do you not need a report to know what happened?
Telepathy? The casting of bones?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 06:28 PM
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21. I think you misunderstand what I said. I did not say that an
investigation was NOT needed. I said that those who should have conducted it, did not, that would be Congress who without any interest in sorting out the facts, cast an unconstitutional vote to 'punish' ACORN for something they had no clue about. And it should have done by law enforcement in the two states where Rove's students broke the law. The fact that ACORN had to do it themselves, further demonstrates who little interest our Congress has in exposing the devious and illegal actions of the far right.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:19 PM
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17. Will they rehiring the fired workers?
:shrug:
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