Karzai Says Afghan Army Will Need Help Until 2024...fifteen more fucking years? puhleeze

[spanone]

ABUL, Afghanistan — In the latest sign of the enduring financial costs of the Afghan war for the United States and other NATO countries, President Hamid Karzai said Tuesday that Afghanistan would not be able to pay for its own security until at least 2024.

Mr. Karzai’s comments underscored his government’s long-term dependence on American and NATO funding just hours after as many as a dozen people were killed during an American raid in Laghman Province east of Kabul, Afghan officials said, prompting hundreds of villagers to march in protest.

The early morning operation outside the provincial capital of Mehtar Lam happened “without any coordination with the Afghan forces or Afghan officials,” said Sayed Ahmed Safi, a spokesman for the governor of Laghman.

He said one woman was among the dead, which included civilians as well as insurgents, all killed by small-arms fire. He said the troops also detained four other men.

After Afghan security forces blocked marchers from entering Mehtar Lam, gunfire broke out, killing one protester and wounding two others, he said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/world/asia/09gates.html?hpw=&pagewanted=print

[no_hypocrisy]

1. Sounds more like what weapons manufacturers have estimated.

[YouTakeTheSkyway]

17. When you consider how few legit. revenue sources that country really has

this estimate isn't really that shocking.

[NNN0LHI]

2. Our Marines will be digging Karzai out of some spider hole long before then just like Saddam

The Republican neocons are just itching to get back in power to send in the calvary to put a new puppet in power with all the nationalistic BS that goes along with doing it.

The American people will eat it up too.

Don

[Hubert Flottz]

3. Karzai is making more money off of this than Dick Cheney!

Karzai is a BushCo mobster too.

[bdamomma]

9. just like how we propped up Musharraf, and Saddam Hussein.

we seemed to prop up corrupt governments and their leaders.

[NNN0LHI]

14. Shah of Iran. The entire Saudi ruling family. Manuel Noriega. The list never ends

[Vinnie From Indy]

4. The corrupt Mayor of Kabul speaks!

I cannot conceive of any scenario where the American public will stand for that long of an engagement. As the American middle-class continues to move into poverty, it is going to get MUCH more difficult for politicians to continue to dump money into this rathole.

[YouTakeTheSkyway]

19. I think it really depends on what type of aid is being sent and

how things are going in other parts of the world (i.e. if a major Iraq drawdown does occur after the '09 elections, as promised).

[mdmc]

5. I bet we need to be there much much longer

That is why we should have never gone in..

[NNN0LHI]

7. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding ...

We have a winner!

That is why we should have never gone in..

Don

[bdamomma]

6. that will be the "fork" in us we will be done.

did any of those other countries "win" in a tribal region like Afghanistan, this is truly disgusting, these guys like Gates and McChrystal said the same thing about Iraq too. And look how well Iraq is now.

[spanone]

8. they are warriors, their job is to wage war not peace.....it's a fucking shame

[bdamomma]

11. I certainly agree spanone.

so sad we never seem to learn.

[Hubert Flottz]

10. Gates is a snake in the grass.

Bush's hand picked yes men in the military are out to elect another GOPer in 2012!

[spanone]

12. i wish to hell that Obama would have purged all the bu$hmongers

i think they still work for cheney

[bdamomma]

13. oh sure they do, especially McChrystal

anyone listening to C Span 3 right now Gates and McChrystal are on now. It all sounds so familiar just like Iraq.


http://cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN3.aspx

[Moochy]

20. Now, Now, that wouldnt be change!

The cheerleaders will accuse you of poutrage, and besides were'nt we all for the good war? Only crazy marginalized hippie bastards were against Obama's so-called good war.
The Observed change was that a Democrat came into power and kept Cheney and Bush's staybehinds in many positions! That was a non-change I did not expect... but apparently the cheerleadeers got the chess strategy memo.

[Neecy]

15. What Karzai really wants....

Is for the United States to prop us his corrupt regime for the next 15 years. Then he can retire to Switzerland with his ill-gotten billions.

If you want to know what the Afghans do to corrupt puppets, read up about what they did with the Soviet-sponsored "President" of Afghanistan.

[bdamomma]

16. aren't we giving funds to Pakistan too??

[bdamomma]

18. I'm sorry this is another thread but is anyone listening to

http://cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN3.aspx

McChrystal saying maybe 37,000 troops are needed. :puke: