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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:12 AM
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"You put your hand on the Bible and swear to uphold the Constitution, you don't put your hand on the
Edited on Tue Dec-08-09 11:44 AM by NJmaverick
Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible". That is what the woman from the NJ Civil Liberties union said during a celebration of our minor victory in the effort to legalize Gay Marriage in NJ. I thought it was a great reply to the "this is a Christian Nation.." and "the Bible says..." crowd.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:13 AM
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1. That's a VERY interesting post, NJM...thanks for this. nt
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:14 AM
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2. I loved that
I so wish I was in Trenton yesterday, but my health is not very good right now, and I don't want to get everyone sick.

Now if it were a tea party yesterday, I would have been there coughing all over everyone.

Have you called your senator today yet?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:49 AM
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10. I haven't yet, but I will be doing it today
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 02:48 PM
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20. call him/her today and after business hours and leave a voicemail
we need the phones ringing off the hook
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 05:07 PM
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23. done
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:15 AM
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3. That is a very good way to put it, even if it assumes
that the Bible should be involved at all. It certainly isn't when I affirm oaths.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:45 AM
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8. I would only use it for those that insist on bringing the bible into the issue
Otherwise like yourself, I would avoid bringing religion into political issues.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:25 AM
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4. too bad we can't put our hand on the CONSTITUTION and swear to uphold IT.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 01:45 PM
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16. You can if you like. nt
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 01:59 PM
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19. of course, and risk a re-elction bid in the process.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:31 AM
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5. What the heck is a "Bilbe?"
Sorry, couldn't help myself....
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 01:25 PM
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14. I fixed the typo
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:34 AM
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6. A very good point! Thanks for posting it nt
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:34 AM
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7. K&R
good one!
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cark Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:48 AM
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9. Nobody is upholding the constitution.
Politicians only pay lip service to upholding the constitution. The notion of 'living breathing document' was invented to avoid the difficulties of actually having to follow it and use the cumbersome amendment process to legitimately change it. I like my contracts to mean what they say not just what a slim majority of partisan judges want it to conveniently say today.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:53 AM
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11. Right. Have a nice visit. nt
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 12:08 PM
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12. Excellent! nt
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 12:42 PM
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13. Perfect counterpoint for the next homophobe's rant!
Thanks for posting that. :)
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 01:45 PM
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15. The Bible shouldn't even be used to swear in officials.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 01:49 PM
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17. I agree, but when you are dealing with people who insist on making the Bible
part of the political discussion this is a great come back.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 01:50 PM
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18. A very wonderful comeback...K&R!
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 02:56 PM
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21. you can prick your finger
but don't finger....
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 05:07 PM
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22. lol, I am not sure I have as much call for that line.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 09:20 AM
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25. It is a famous rant by George Carlin
commenting on the double meaning of words and when we are allowed to say them.

Another gem "the batter has two balls is fine but I think he hurt his balls on that play Tony, is not"
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 05:08 PM
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24. amen! God bless her for that great comment.
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