What's the world going to look like after Sarah Palin's first term?

[Cary]

It will happen if we're stupid enough to follow the Republican's polarization lead, and from the looks of things here at DU we're plenty stupid enough. If "conservatives" regain power my prediction is that we end up being a larger version of Mexico. For those of us who end up being the category of more billionaires per capita than anywhere else in the world, enjoy. For the rest of us, enjoy your $5 per day.

:toast:

[leftstreet]

1. If Republicans regain power, it's our fault?

LOL

[liberal N proud]

3. +1

[Cary]

10. If we show up in force they can't beat us, ever.

So you tell me.

Tell it to New Jersey and Virginia while you're at it. We didn't show up, and they won.

Seems to me we have no one to blame but ourselves.

[PVnRT]

22. It's always the liberals' fault

It's our job to write checks and vote for who the Smart People in Washington say is the best candidate.

[Cary]

27. It's your job to keep fighting for what you believe and to live to fight another day.

If you quit then, yes, liberal or "conservative" what you get is what you get.

It's never going to be perfect.

[Marr]

41. Really?

What if you don't believe in escalating the war in Afghanistan, bank bailouts, rendition, military commissions, and the rest?

You're not talking about 'fighting for what you believe'. You're talking about party loyalty. They are not nearly the same things.

What did you think of right-wingers who 'voted against their interests' to support GW Bush, simply because he was on their "team"? Their reasoning was the same as yours; anything to prevent the other party from gaining power. Did you see their point, or did it seem like obvious folly?

[stray cat]

26. Only if you don't vote

[old mark]

89. Many people here seem to have decided not to vote in the 2010 election and

I have no doubt many won't vote in 2012.

Whose fault do you think it would be if the fucking dumb ass leftists sit home while the 'Publicans vote?


mark

[Steerpike]

93. I will vote

I will vote for the Democrat. And just hope to the gods that I will not be disapointed. The USSC is aging quickly and we have to have a Dem in the catbird seat to steer the Supremes to the left.

[old mark]

108. Good. I hope you can persuade many more Dems to vote as well.

If people are so disappointed by the Democrats, think how they would feel with a republican majority and a flaming idiot republican in the white house.

(I mention the flaming idiot part because that is all they have left.)

mark

[havocmom]

2. glass

very quiet glass

[timeforpeace]

64. Plus there will be war. And a bad economy. And high unemployment.

[havocmom]

75. Only until she would turn the world to glass

[timeforpeace]

78. Not following that. Anyway, not too many ways for it to be worse, is there?

[havocmom]

79. When you take earth, sand, rock, and apply enough heat, you get glass

In other words, President Palin = :nuke:

[Le Taz Hot]

4. Black/white, up/down thinking

Unrecommend for lack of originality. If you're so worried about a Palin presidency perhaps the Democrats need to stop throwing their base under the bus. Just a thought.

[cowcommander]

19. Tell the "liberals" we voted for to stop throwing their voters under the bus first

People are going to lose hope in voting if there's no real change.

[Le Taz Hot]

25. Too many of us didn't get the opportunity to vote for

any liberals in 2008. The Rahm Emmanuel DLC Party Machine made sure all progressive challengers were starved for support in lieu of corporate whores, which is exactly what we got. Either the Democrats open that tent to include true progressives or they're going to lose. It's really that simple.

[RKP5637]

28. This is what I think too. A lot of people voted in this last election for change, many

of these individuals do not normally vote. I am afraid they are going to be discouraged. With all of the arguing going on amongst the democrats in congress, it feels to me like we're still the minority than the majority.

I wish the elected democrats would get the job done they all rode into office on. The Blue Dogs well might not get elected again if this country swings RW, they will find a republicans takes their seat. If the democrats got the job done and correctly, I think the nation would be quite appreciative, the majority at least.

[donco6]

5. We're responsible for conservatives gaining power?

We're the ones fighting against the implementation of conservative ideals.

[Cary]

14. That's not exactly what I see going on around here.

If you don't think we have the power to self destruct then I don't know what to tell you.

[donco6]

81. I see us doing that right now.

Keep cowing to any conservative who has a problem with anything, supporting the corporations and banks, escalating war, kicking the gays, scapegoating the teachers, ignoring the unions, . . . pretty soon you're well down the self-destruct highway.

[Hannah Bell]

109. If you mean throwing money to banksters & war while ignoring jobs

& prosecution of criminals, yes, self-destruction of the party proceeding nicely.

[no_hypocrisy]

6. The first chapter of Lewis' "It Can't Happen Here".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can't_Happen_Here

[Solly Mack]

7. Fear! Get your fear here! Step right up!

[Cary]

11. Yeah, damn straight I fear "conservatives" regaining power.

Have you learned nothing over the last 30 years? You don't think they're as incompetent and miserable as I think they are?

[Solly Mack]

21. It would be insulting if it wasn't so laughable.

Absolutely no on DU can make or break an election. There's no need to insult DUers by calling them stupid. Nothing anyone says on DU is going to stop people from voting.

[Cary]

24. Sorry you don't like my opinion but I'm just not a denialist like you.

Funny how similar the extremists at both ends tend to actually be. <shrug>

[Solly Mack]

29. Just how many names can you call me? LMAO

[Cary]

34. You think you're clever and funny.

I don't.

[Solly Mack]

36. How clever and funny of me to note that you're calling me names.

LMAO

[Cary]

39. Telling you that I don't share your denialism isn't calling you names.

But do go cry about it anyway.

[Bjorn Against]

46. You called Solly Mack a "denialist" and an "extremist"

So yes, you engaged in name calling.

[Cary]

52. Really?

So if I say that I don't love chocolate the way you do then I'm calling you names too?

Get a grip.

[Bjorn Against]

58. Solly Mack is not an extremist or a denialist

And applying false labels to her is not remotely like comparing our love of chocolate.

[Cary]

60. If Solly Mack is neither an extremist nor a denialist then . . .

why didn't you just say that instead of inappropriately accusing me of "name calling?"

Better yet why doesn't Solly Mack defend her own opinions in a more functional, less confrontational way? If you had done that you might actually have earned your righteous indignation. As things stand I don't think so.

[donco6]

82. You were name calling.

And Solly probably just got bored with you. Me too.

[Cary]

90. Gee, that really hurts.

People with the emotional maturity of 12 year olds are bored with me. What to do?

[dwnorman]

101. There you go again...

Saying, "People with the emotional maturity of 12 year olds", in response to someone disagreeing with you is name calling. But, don't stop on my account; it's quite entertaining.

[JVS]

85. No you don't. You fear the wrong set of conservatives regaining power.

[name not needed]

8. Don't know, but chances are it'll involve Brawndo.

[niceypoo]

9. Because Bush/Cheney wont be prosecuted...

...the next one will be worse.

[AndyA]

12. Wander around this site a bit. It will show what Palin would do in office.

http://www.palinaspresident.us/

:rofl:

[krispos42]

13. Like "Mad Max"...

only with more guns. And the air is dirtier.

[Cary]

16. Yes, except. . .

that's just a best case scenario.

[trof]

115. With "Idiocracy".

[Kievan Rus]

15. The world won't exist anymore...Sarah would initiate all-out nuclear war

[Hannah Bell]

110. only if her puppet-masters told her to.

[KharmaTrain]

17. She's A Sockpuppet...

The real power that controls the party will never let her get close to winning a nomination unless she's "controlable". "Going Rogue" is not a trait the party leadership tolerates. You'll see efforts to line up behind a Mittens or Rectorum or some other "great white hope" and Mooselini will be snowed over in the primaries just like Gramps McCain was in 2000.

Playing your game...I can't fathom Bible Spice ever being elected, but if she were, we'd see scandals galore as she's select cronies and turn the government into a patronage machine (just like boooshie did). It'd be more tax cuts for the rich while running up bigger and bigger defecits...a true kleptocracy.

[leeroysphitz]

18. Let me see if I have this right.

If we on the left do not quit complaining that the democrats are acting like republicans then republicans will win?

Who gives a shit? Things won't look any different whether it's after Obama's second term or Palin's first.
I am going to complain, be contentious get angry and if dems lose seats or the white house it will be THEIR OWN DAMN FAULT.

We waited 12 long years to be in this position and if this is the best they (democrats) can do with their majorities and the white house then who needs them?

[Cary]

20. Who needs them?

We do.

No one is telling you not to stand up and express your opinion. No one is telling you not to work for what you believe in. The problem isn't your opinion. The problem is you and people like you throwing in the towel and letting the real pukes back in.

So it isn't magically happening for you overnight. That's no excuse for you quitting and throwing in the towel.

[leeroysphitz]

30. Not quitting. I've made a deliberate choice.

My money (contributions) mean nothing to those running for office. My phone calls and letters can't compete with corporate dollars so the only tiny amount of leverage I have is my vote.

If things do not change then I feel like all I can do is vote against incumbents in the primary and / or sit out the general elections.

This is the only way I have of voicing my opinion. It has it's drawbacks. I am aware of them. Nobody wants to see a president Palin but if that's what it takes to put the corporately run democratic party back on track then it will be worth it.

I survived 8 years of Bush Cheney I'll survive Palin or Romney too.

I just hope enough people are as angry as I am next year.

[Cary]

37. Drawbacks?

That's a huge understatement.

You don't get heard by empowering your opposition.

Do not sit out. Get out and be twice as important for your causes.

[sharp_stick]

38. While I agree with a lot of your statements

regarding campaign contributions and the like I don't know if you would survive a Palin presidency. A Romney presidency probably, he's a magical underwear wearing tool but he aint nuts.

Palin on the other hand could very well start the government/church theocracy that we've seen work so well in the middle east only substituting fundie christers for fundie allah freaks.

I for one don't think that psycho has a chance in hell, but I have dual citizenship so if she does get in, at least I can get out. Until then though I'll continue to support causes I want to support and do my damdest to get my priorities heard. When all is said and done though I'll vote for the least objectionable option, I've done it before and I'm sure I'll do it again. That's one of the shitty things of having a two party system.

[Cary]

42. A 2 party system means we have to get our act together and. . .

have discipline in our coalition. The right doesn't have this right now and in fact compromise is anathema to the extremists. Their rationale is that you can't compromise with "evil."

I am really disturbed by the lefties who seem to buy into this same malignancy.

[leeroysphitz]

44. Sorry, but we have got to draw a line in the sand somewhere.

I fell the dems are going to lose and lose big in the next two election cycles and it's their own fault.
They didn't have to become so uniformly corporatist. That didn't have to get impatient for seats swelling their ranks with DINOS.

They could have stuck together, showed some back bone and stood up for core progressive values. They did not.
They did not because it wasn't as profitable. So we have to end the gravy train and our little votes are all we have to do that.

I wish the timing could be better but who expected President Obama to fizzle out so soon?

JMO

[sharp_stick]

45. It's a shame you've given up so soon

I really thought Democrats had more stamina and at least a bit of backbone.

That's not what I'm seeing around here recently; just a bunch of quitters more than willing to go back to the "status quo" of the shrub years or worse after less than a year in office and still during shrubbos last budget.

[leeroysphitz]

50. I'm not quitting. I'm going to hold me elected officials to a higher standard and exercise my right

vote or not.

[Cary]

57. IOW you're quitting. n/t

[StreetKnowledge]

66. No, we're standing for our values.

I intend to vote for a third party candidate next time.

I am one of the many who had my life ruined by the American health insurance industry, so to see the Dems pander to them is worse than infuriating. To see the party go down the same road as the GOP did bailing out and respecting the Wall Street pigs is something that will destroy the nation. The Democrats have become merely a watered-down version of the Republicans, and I will not waste my votes voting for a watered-down party that doesn't represent my interests, just to keep the assholes out of power. I have more self-respect and consider my vote more valuable than that.

[Cary]

70. I don't think you really know what you're doing.

The road we're going down is not the same road as the GOP, and if enough good Democrats stab us in the back we will all be sorry. It's not just keeping the assholes out of power. Together we can make a difference. If you blow it all up we don't stand a chance.

[leeroysphitz]

74. That's a load of BS. People like you are why politicians take us for granted.

Because of your kind the only thing they see up on capitol hill are dollar signs.

People like you, so quick to forgive no matter what. So quick to ask us who else are we going to vote for. So fearful of losing the horse race. Of course dems in Washington take their base for granted what with cheer leaders like you making sure every body votes for these clowns no matter how much they shit all over us.

You are the problem. You.

Enjoy your mediocrity.

[Cary]

76. Of course . . .

People like you who abuse posters on an internet board--you're the real movers and shakers. Your work is so important and meaningful.

Thank you so much for all you do for us "cheer leaders."

Oy.

[leeroysphitz]

77. I never claimed to do anything for you.

And if you think anything I have said is abusive then you are confused.

An apt label is not abuse.

[Cary]

92. No confusion--you're being a jerk.

Solly Mack is being a jerk and the both of you are as obnoxious as the average "conservative." I won't go so far as to accuse of being as obnoxious as the most reactionary "conservative" because they're in a league of their own.

Moreover you're as irrational and as defensive as the average "conservative." You can't seem to distinguish between criticism of a point of view and criticism of the person.

I hate to see this kind of thing amongst us liberals because I always like to think we're better than they are in that respect. We can tolerate our differences and find our common ground. Sadly that kind of civility is in short supply here at DU these days.

It didn't used to be like this.

[leeroysphitz]

94. You called me a quitter. Repeatedly.

I took that to be an obnoxious personal attack and I responded accordingly. If you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen.

[Cary]

96. You aren't "heat"

I think you're quitting. I think you and too many others here are going soft on us.

I'm almost sorry you feel offended by that, but you need a dose of reality. Politics is the art of the possible and "conservatives" brought us to the very brink of the abyss, while you and those like you insist on "conservative"-like notions of ideological purity.

To me you are a quitter. You're the one who doesn't seem to be able to take it, whining about being called names while at the same time you call me names.

You aren't going to intimidate me. I'm going to state my opinion and stand my ground. You people are not saying you're disatisfied with certain Democrats--hell I dislike the Blue Dogs every bit as much as you do but I'm not saying I'm packing it in and blowing up the party. My Senators are doing the right thing here. My Congressman is a puke. What can I say? I didn't vote for him and I'd never vote for him, but I lost on that.

Moreover this is "Democratic Underground," not "Third Party Whiner Underground." Where do you come off plotting to undermine the Democratic Party? It's one thing to say you're disappointed in the Democratic Party and you're going to work to make it more progressive, and it's quite another to say you're going to blow it all up because you don't like it.

Again I'm not going to be intimidated by your obnoxiousness. I'm sick and tired of this rightist like behavior that I'm encountering from people like you. You aren't helpful to the cause. You aren't constructive. You're a cancer, just like radical rightists are a cancer to the Republicans.

[leeroysphitz]

102. I'm not really sure what you are looking for here.

You advocate doing the exact same thing that WE democrats have always done and hoping for different results.

I advocate trying something new I say we ALL stay home. I think that if OUR party loses and loses BIG on the heels of the HCR and Afghanistan debacles then those who run for office in the future may take away a lesson from those losses about how putting corporate dollars before progressive values causes one to lose elections. Do they have any such fears today? You know damn well that they do NOT. I'm not naive enough to believe that politicians will all of the sudden stop being corrupt but they may just stop taking the base for granted. That is the goal. It is better than your status quo.

You act like the democtratic party is going to fold up and dissapear if they lose seats in an election cycle or two but I have news for you. We have a two party system and neither party is going ANYWHERE EVER.

If people would quit voting for DINOS then there wouldn't be anymore DINOS. Maybe we wouldn't have a permanent majority but I gaurantee you we would still have a more effective democratic party then we have had for the last 14 years.

Don't just throw your vote away on a candidate who doesn't really share your values just because he or she decides to throw a D after his or her name that's the quickest way to disenfranchise yourself. You don't get to use your power to vote very often so if you care you should make it count and when NOT voting counts more toward reaching your goals than voting for the corrupt at worst / mediocre at best crowd then that is what you should do.

You aren't going to intimidate me. I'm going to state my opinion and stand my ground.

[Hannah Bell]

111. The PARTY LEADERSHIP IS NON-RESPONSIVE. Not just the elected

officials, the non-elected funders & bureaucracy.

"Letting the *real* pukes in" - ha.

[treestar]

103. What over simplified thinking

You're a non-asset to any party.

[leeroysphitz]

106. Oh, I forgot. It's a chess game.

[HipChick]

23. I agree..Carey

If we dont show up in 2010 or 2012, we only have ourselves to blame..we know the other side will be out in full force

[Cary]

33. Thank you for being a voice of simple reason.

The radical right will most definitely be out in full force. That's how they do it.

I don't understand exactly why our fellow DUers can't appreciate and understand that. I'm sympathetic to their causes, which is exactly why I don't want to see the radical right come out ahead.

The radical right should be demoralized. We should be fighting like hell for our causes instead of beating each other up.

Simple reason, people.

[HipChick]

31. The media keep pushing Sarah Palin..

I was watching some show yesterday, gushing about how nice she was in person etc...and then next clip they pulled out some lastest poll rating that showed her popularity up...the fact that the US public can be sold a candidate with nothing of sustenance but a pretty face says a lot

[AllentownJake]

32. Shut the Fuck Up

The Sarah Palin edition version 23

[LeftishBrit]

35. Let's hope we never need to find out.

[crazyjoe]

40. double digit unemployment, domestic spying, escalation of war......

oh, wait.....

[NV Whino]

43. A moose in every pot

and 2 snow machines in every garage?

[sharp_stick]

47. We have a real chance to bury the pukes

starting in 2010 if they continue to fracture along the teabagger/regular con lines. If the Democratic party can pull the more sane of the pukes out of the election by getting them to vote for a Democratic candidate or at least staying home.

I said in another reply that I'm kind of surprised how easily some people around here give up, it's kind of pathetic and really sad. I'm glad I never had recess on the playground with them so willing to ditch the game after the first quarter. I don't think this place is that representative of the world at large though. We'll see as the mid-terms get a little closer.

[Cary]

53. Hear hear.

It is pathetic and it is sad, but I'm afraid it's also pathological. It's like they want to self destruct. They want to be the victim so badly that they're ready to victimize themselves, and to lash out at those of us who dare to call them on it.

It's clearly some form of denialism--denial that we are a powerful coalition.

[eridani]

112. You don't seem to realize that the Dems have the same pop;ulist/ruling class split n/t

[AllentownJake]

48. Instead of threats

You might want to try showing what has been done. Democrats aren't like the GOP, that bell doesn't really work.

[Cary]

54. Threats?

I haven't threatened anyone. It comes down to simple math. The rightist extremists can muster what? 20%? 30%?

We can muster over 50% every time in most places. If we show up, they lose. When we don't show up--and this happens often--they can win.

That's not a threat. That's reality. Denying that reality does no one any real good, except insofar as it feeds into some kind of dysfunction that I don't understand and that I don't respect.

Go post your "showing what has been done." Those who lash out at me for suggesting that if we don't keep our discipline we will lose will just as quickly lash out at you.

[Initech]

49. Terminator: Salvation paints a pretty accurate portrait.

[dysfunctional press]

51. first term of what?

anybody who thinks that palin has any chance of being selected potus is about as stupid as they come.

[Cary]

56. I thought the same thing about Ronald Reagan. n/t

[dysfunctional press]

84. then you are doubly so.

[Forkboy]

104. Big difference in the party machinery behind Palin and what was behind Reagan.

[yurbud]

55. Rwanda, Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge, or at best, IDIOCRACY with Bibles and a guns

[DireStrike]

59. Billionaires per capita/$5 per day

You say that like these things are mutually exclusive.

Don't worry. Both parties agree that the entire country should be completely divided into billionaires and people who make $5 per day. Our billionaires per capita stats will only increase, and after all, that's whats important.

[Cary]

63. DireStrike, I believe you will find that Mexico indeed has. . .

more billionaires per capita.

On my last trip to Play Del Carmen I was amazed at how the locals worked their butts off at our resort for the equivalent of $5 per day.

Not sure why you think I think the two are mutually exclusive. Quite the contrary. The two go hand in hand when you have excessive concentrations of wealth and it is the natural state of things if you don't take approprate actions to counteract the concentration of wealth.

Read Paul Krugman's "The Conscience of a Liberal" if you have not already done so.

[DireStrike]

86. My mistake, missed a crucial word in your post

Sounds good, adding it to my christmas list.

[anonymous171]

61. Just slightly worse than what we have now. nt

[parts]

62. a nuclear crater.

Seriously - push N Korea and Iran (soon) hard enough, and you know she will

[StreetKnowledge]

65. Another "Who Cares about our Interests, keep THEM out!!" guy

Look friend, us liberals tend to be people who have principles. Most of us are pro-choice, think health care is a right not a privilege, are against stupid wars, think climate change is an actual problem, support the rights of homosexuals and are quite open about our wish for a more just, fair society.

The last Democratic President (i.e. the one before Obama) did quite a lot to kick the working people of the country in the ass. President Obama is doing the same thing. You've essentially said "we can't get what we want, so take what we can get." My response to that is "I'll take my chances, because if enough people like me make our voices heard, I'll get what I want."

In 1980 and 1994, the right mobilized full-force and got what they wanted. In 2008, we returned the favor. The problem is that many Democrats are spineless pussies who haven't got the cojones to fight for real change, and off course then when stuff doesn't go their way they pass the buck to somebody else. In 2008, we mobilized in full strength and sent the Old Fart and the Caribou Barbie packing, and put the first black man in the White House. But the change we wanted didn't happen, and as a result we lost two governorship races. The conservaDems rely on screwups from the other side, because real liberals tend to have an easier time getting elected. Think about it for a minute, and consider guys like Dennis Kucinich. Liberal Democrats who win tend to win by bigger margins. That's not rocket science. Hell, Michael Moore pointed that out in his first book in 1995.

The conservatives will only regain the power if Obama shifts far enough to the right to alienate many of us. And he's doing that mighty quickly. To suggest that it'll be our fault if the righties get power back is buck-passing in its purest form. To all the "support the party" types - grow a pair and get back to us when you're ready to fight the corporate-pandering losers. Until then, stay outta the way, please.

[Cary]

Nice string of non-sequiturs

We have a plurality system which means we two parties which are necessarily coalition parties. Third parties cannot win, they can only draw off votes from one party or another. Think Ross Perot in 1992 and Ralph Nader in 2000.

Given that reality it makes a lot of sense for you to call like-minded people "spineless pussies" because they want to work within the existing structure to affect the changes you mutually agree upon. <sarcasm> Sure, just have a hissy fit because it's not happening exactly as you think you want it to happen and blow up the coalition. Oh, and make sure you don't give and inch and allow the leaders you elect the luxury of trying to deal with the reality of the hand they're dealt. Absolutely you have to blame Obama for the fact that he has to deal with Blue Dog Democrats and to try to get 60 Senators, and allow him no quarter for the idea that there just is no good answer to clusterfucks like Afghanistan. Give him no benefit of the doubt. No, sir. Because you're pure and you're true to you "principles."

You can take your "grow a pair and blah blah blah" and roll it up really, really tight, and then . . . You don't impress me none. If I'm in your way, good. Tell me when you've grown up.

[Cary]

72. Self delete

[Forkboy]

67. It's time for us Dems to realize we need a better sales pitch than "We're not them."

[donco6]

Especially when it turns out "We ARE them! Fooled ya!" n/t

[JVS]

87. And then "P.S. It's your fault for buying into our hope thing, pony monger!"

[PVnRT]

97. Extremist! Denialist! Pony-wanter!

[JVS]

100. He who covets that small animal with uncloven hoof that cheweth not of the cud

[Vinca]

68. No idea, but I would be observing it from Canada.

[Tailormyst]

69. The blame will lie entirely on those elected official who chose greed over people.

[loyalkydem]

71. See the Supernatural Episode

"The End" Gives you a good clue.

[MilesColtrane]

73. .

[goldcanyonaz]

80. Palin will never become president. She's a quitter.

I really don't know why we pay so much attention to her, no one I know even talks about her anymore and these were people who once really liked her.

They think of her as a quitter.

[branders seine]

83. We already ARE a larger version of Mexico

or inexorably on our way

[Joe the Liberal]

88. A fascist, theocratic, third world hell hole.......

where the the top 1% own about 99% of the wealth while the rest of the population is poor, starving, and diseased. The environment is destroyed and our resources are sold off to the highest bidder turning the country into a grey, barren, desolate, dried up wasteland. Other countries come here to dump their waste and further deteriorate the land. 99% of the people live in hovels and small shacks and cling to whatever little belongings they have left.

All throughout the country there are multiple tribes that form who are lead by religious fanatics and who constantly fight with other tribes in the area. The top 1%/Palin administration support all tribes and provide them with weapons to keep everyone divided and in conflict so there can be no unity/uprising. The middle class does not exist, there is only poor and mega rich, Palin believes everything is fine and dandy and her advisers keep her in blissful ignorance. They (her advisers) know the truth but don't care because they are fascists and want to remain in power and control.

All police and fire departments do no exist anymore as they were disbanded years ago for fear of "socialism". In fact there really is no government to speak of, it doesn't exist same with every other organization (post offices,schools,courts ect) that were once linked to the government. There is only the top 1%/Palin administration who control everything and the rest of the impoverished masses. The military was disbanded years ago (socialism again) and that no longer exists as well. There is a small military however but it's only made up of foreign contractors who are hired by the top 1%/Palin administration to protect their assets.

The only wildlife left are rats, cockroaches, and various other pests. During the middle of the Palin administration she (Palin) had ordered all wildlife to be killed, know one really knows why. Some said it was because she was jealous of the intelligence of animals and feared that it might surpass hers. Others said it was because she (Palin) thought the animals would rise up and kill her or some other superstitious nonsense along those lines.

The only kind of weather are sand storms and acid rain, it doesn't snow anymore. The air, the sky and environment in general are so toxic that it mutates people and even the remaining pests into abominations. If anyone has ever played Fallout 3 the video game, that will give you a pretty good idea of what I'm talking about.

Wow I got way too carried away on this, I think you could literally write a book with a decent story about this kind of scenario where Palin becomes president.

[newspeak]

105. hey, you forgot the witch burnings

Palin's inquisition team goes from village to village to rout out all of the witches. The judges and torturers are paid by the victims' families or the poor villagers. If the payment cannot be met, they seize all meager properties from the villagers.

[Fading Captain]

91. It's always someone elses fault with the Dittocrat crowd

It's the Republicans fault.
It's Nader's fault.
It's the people at DU's fault.

If the Democrats blow this (House/Senate/President) they have nobody but the PARTY to blame. And for you to try to hoist that onto the shoulders of regular people, saddled with all kinds of troubles in these times, because you're not happy that we lack enthusiasm for a bunch of Democratic Party Corporate Sellouts ... well, you're just being an asshat.

[lunatica]

95. It'll look like this

[walldude]

98. Sarah Palin couldn't get elected Dog Catcher..

anyone who thinks she can watches too much tv.

[sofa king]

99. I can see it now.

[depakid]

107. Something like this:

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[madokie]

113. there won't be no sarah first term anything ever again

she shot he wad

[saltpoint]

114. The question is what Ex-Governor Palin will do when she does not finish first

in the Iowa caucus in 2012.

My guess is she will "go rogue" with a third party run. It would be in keeping with her context of not behind beholden to Republican Party state and local officials, which would after all be too disciplined an approach for someone as undisciplined as Palin.

A third party run would also keep her in the spray of media attention, get her and keep her on everyone's radar, sustain her -- for a while anyway -- as the IT girl.

I don't believe she has a realistic shot at the White House.

[sendero]

116. I fail to see...

.. much difference. We'll get no banking reform, no healthcare reform, no ending of pointless wars. We'll bail out big business and let the middle class hang.

In other words, exactly what we have now.