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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:40 PM
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Should Lance Mackey, who won the Alaska Iditarod four times be stripped of his title because
He uses Medical Marijuana on the trail. Is it any different the a baseball player using steroids? He says it makes the trail bearable for him...There is a big stink in Alaska about this right now...
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:42 PM
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1. NO. It can't possibly give him an athletic advantage over the other entrants.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:46 PM
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4. Not only that but it is a "Prescription Drug"
He carries an Alaska Medical Marijuana Certificate. He isn't using the drug to bolster his athleticism.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 05:46 PM
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9. persecution, plain & simple.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 07:42 PM
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23. I agree, prosecution.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 07:33 PM
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20. might not matter
In many professional sports you can be suspended for legal substances inside OTC drugs and prescription drugs. Some sports grant you waivers, but players have certainly run a foul for drugs used in a perfectly legal matter.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:46 PM
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2. Doesn't MJ slw you down and mellow you out? That doesn't
sound lie it gives him any advantage to me.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 06:25 PM
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11. it has some performance enhancing aspects
depends on the sport. for example, it has similar effect to beta blockers which would be advantageous for a biathlete (biathletes have to do intense distance skiing, THEN do very precise shooting).

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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 06:26 PM
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12. have you ever smoked up and tried to get something done?
if he was stoned while he raced, he should get two medals
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 07:13 PM
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17. i do it all the time.
it gives me the energy and motivation to get things done.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 07:16 PM
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18. wow, I get the munchies and want to watch my eyelids
only after drinking a gallon of powerade
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 07:20 PM
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19. i've never smoked
but there's been a lot of debate about this in my sport. one athlete just got a huge fine and suspension for testing positive for thc.

the reality is that mj is psychoactive and has other effects (like stimulating appetite). there are some sports it would be disadvantageous for, and others it would be advantageous.

it is true that in many people, mj tends to suck out incentive to do stuff. but for competitive athletes, they have drive to spare.

i used to room in college with a bunch of swimmers/water polo players. they would frequently "wake and bake" before practice, and they said it helped the numbing boredom of lap after lap, helped their appetite, etc.

but since it's prescribed, it becomes thornier. many drugs that are otherwise banned, are ok IF they are used by script. but not all.

for example, my org bans (among other things) albuterol. however, if you have asthma and have it prescribed it's ok.

etc.

ditto for diuretics. ok if you have a script.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 07:39 PM
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22. He's won it three years in a row,
now to mention the Yukon Quest four times.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:46 PM
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3. No!
So it is said, so let it be written! Next.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:47 PM
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5. No. This one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
I think this is more about free publicity from a made up controversy.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:48 PM
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6. it is somewhaat different
I don't think MJ comes under the heading of performance enhancing.Although for me, it would enhance the ride through the wilderness greatly
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:50 PM
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7. Makes the trail bearable? How?
Seriously, if he wouldn't be up to doing it mentally without the mj, then it does help him.

that said, ban these stupid, cruel races. What, seven dogs died last year?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:58 PM
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8. He might eat one of the dogs but it's hardly performance enhancing
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 06:02 PM
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10. Only if . . .
Only if you strip Tiger Woods of all of his golf tournament victories since he got lasik surgery to improve his vision.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 06:31 PM
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13. the only competition where pot would help performance....


Eating competitions
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 07:08 PM
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14. My question would be how could anyone NOT smoke something on such a journey?
Edited on Tue Dec-08-09 07:08 PM by Winterblues
Talk about grueling. Pot could only be a benefit especially since it doesn't really screw you up, but just makes things a little more enjoyable.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 07:11 PM
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15. gee, if he was sharing it with the dogs, they might have a point....
but i don't think so really.

how could it give him any advantage to be stoned on the sled?

methinks some people are jealous....
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logosoco Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 07:11 PM
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16. As long as the dogs weren't smoking it, I don't see the problem.nt
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 07:37 PM
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21. I didn't hear that they wanted to strip him of his title,
Edited on Tue Dec-08-09 07:44 PM by Blue_In_AK
only that they were going to be drug testing this year -- which I think is a load bullshit, personally, especially since marijuana is virtually legal here. I could see maybe testing for cocaine or amphetamine because it might give mushers an edge as far as staying awake, but marijuana? Give me a large break.

I really like Lance. We spent some time talking with him out in Nome last March. He's really a nice, down-to-earth guy besides being a hell of a musher. Also he won the humanitarian award last year which is given by the trail veterinarians to the musher who takes the best care of his dogs.

http://www.mackeyscomebackkennel.com/
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 07:44 PM
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24. Of course not, but am curious what condition he has that it's prescribed for.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 08:16 PM
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25. He's a cancer survivor.
Edited on Tue Dec-08-09 08:22 PM by Blue_In_AK
You can read his rather inspiration story here: http://www.mackeyscomebackkennel.com/About.htm

Another good article is here: http://kit-dogdaze.blogspot.com/2009/03/lance-mackeys-story.html

I would assume he gets the medical marijuana to cope with the residual damage done by the throat cancer.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 09:19 PM
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26. Wow. That is amazing. Thanks.
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