Rachel Maddow: "I'm Reading It From Your Book, Dude"

[Hissyspit]

Rachel is TRASHING the "gay can be cured" guy, Richard Cohen, on her show. He attributes "race" as a contributing cause to gayness. He said that it wasn't in the book, even as she read it from the book in her hand. Guy is not licensed by any accrediting body. He CANNOT defend himself. Says his expulsion from the ACA was that he was a "victim of a hate crime." Yes, you read that right - the guy whose work, as Rachel repeatedly proved to him (and along with Rick Warren), is being used in Uganda to justify murdering gays. I will try to find the video. This is hilarious.

He said he was going to take the "pedophile" statistics out of the next edition. :eyes:

This guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Cohen

Expulsion from the ACA

In 2002 Cohen was permanently expelled from the American Counseling Association, after it accused him of six violations of its ethics code, which bars members from actions which "seek to meet their personal needs at the expense of clients, those that exploit the trust and dependency of clients, and for soliciting testimonials or promoting products in a deceptive manner."

http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/12/08/richard-cohens-contribution-to-pass-the-anti-homosexuality-bill

Richard Cohen’s contribution to pass the Anti-Homosexuality Bill
Posted on December 8th, 2009 by Warren

One of the major reasons Ugandans give for their support for the Anti-Homosexuality Bill is to stop recruitment of children and young men to homosexuality. Despite the lack of evidence demonstrating a systematic recruitment effort, the view of child abuse and homosexuality being about the same persists in the rationale given for the bill.

Scott Lively promotes this idea and he has been a colleague of Stephen Langa since at least 2002. Thus, when Langa wanted people to come to Uganda to whip up public calls for a new law, he asked Lively to return. He also asked Richard Cohen’s assistant Caleb Brundidge to speak. Cohen was there in spirit however in the form of Brundidge and his book Coming Out Straight. During the Rachel Maddow Show last night, Cohen’s book was display by Stephen Langa and Cohen was labeled an authority. No wonder, homosexuality is considered a disorder in this book, albeit a curable one. However, the book also contains dark and sinister descriptions of homosexuals, which no doubt played well into Langa’s designs.

[GOPNotForMe]

1. GO RACHEL! Put that creep in his place!

I love how he was like "OMG race isn't listed as a factor!" and she was like "uh yeah, right here it is, book with your name on cover" LOL

[donheld]

32. Here's the link

http://videos.mediaite.com/video/Rachel-Maddows-Fiery-Interview?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[Hissyspit]

34. DU Video Link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=411248&mesg_id=411248

[donheld]

36. You know he just made my blood boil!

[theFrankFactor]

93. This Guy Has Some SERIOUS Issues!

and he's a lying, slimey scumbag.

[texasleo]

2. This guy is gayer than a $3 bill.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Hissyspit]

6. "I've been married to wonderful wife all these years!"

Like he's never heard of bisexuality (or he's just lying).

[jezebel]

9. I pity his wife. nt

[dixiegrrrrl]

25. His wife's name isn't Mrs. Beard, is it?

[Bette Noir]

31. He's not the first gay guy with a beard.

And Rachel made him admit he's messed around with men since he's been married.

[Jenny_92808]

26. I agree....nothing wrong with it...BUT

It reminds me of someone like larry craig who has the gayness (in bathrooms anyway) yet he chooses to cause damage to the lives of gays by his actions. This guy is worse of course because his work might lead to murdering gays.

[OneGrassRoot]

33. Welcome to DU, Jenny!

:hi:

[GodlessBiker]

98. Hey Jenny...Welcome!

[underpants]

118. HAVE YOU *SEEN* RICK WARREN?

sweet Jesus that guy sends the needle off the chart

[Horse with no Name]

3. BUT BUT BUT BUT

You read ONE paragraph out of a 300 page book!
That was the paragraph I was going to take out of the next edition. Honest!

[Johonny]

15. It's a fair complaint but she gave him plenty of time to put it in

context. Instead he tells her to read more, she reads more, he denies it's even a factor. Then why is it on his list of factors... ouch dude.

[gleaner]

69. No matter what paragraph she read ....

He would have said he was going to take it out of the next book. If she had been able to read everything to him the next book would have been blank. The best of all possible worlds, unless he had never showed his mugly face to begin with.

What a fraud he is, and what a good job she is doing with all of the frauds she encounters. The best of the best.:fistbump:

[amerikat]

4. She's carving this turkey like she's a master chef.

The guy is an idiot.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

8. The "dude" part cracked me up. She definitely kicked his ass.

[Holy Moly]

63. prefers being waterboarded

Awesome how she so skillfully cuts him off at the pass each time he desperately tries squirming out of the turkey traps she herds him into.
This instructional video should be required viewing for all advanced doctoral candidates in the fine fine art of *jiu jitsu interviewing and/or by professional master chefs on how to carve up a live squawking turkey, making him wish he were a dead duck or prefer being sadistically waterboarded by a scowling cock cheney, instead of being congenially interviewed by a beautifully beaming Rachel.

*Jiu Jitsu: turns an enemy's energy back against himself

[Johonny]

5. This guy is sooooo sad.

HE'S a victim of a hate crime. He denies everything in his book. He's the worst advocate for his product I ever heard! He should at least stand by his fake product.

[Hissyspit]

10. He's not just sad. He's dangerous.

Ugandans are using him and Rick Warren as justification to try and legally KILL people.

[Johonny]

20. but but but

he's sending a message of love. Sure there's parts of the book filled with vile denounced false data, but the rest of it is pure love. Just trust him. Ok not the parts he just denounced or denied. But the rest, that's all love. How could people make that mistake. Really now.

[Raster]

57. Remember: It's just a two minute prayer, AND I'm not really a doctor...

...but I play one in Uganda.

[CatWoman]

7. that was hilarious

:rofl:

[tabatha]

14. Rachel is masterful.

She sliced and diced with skill.

[orwell]

11. Rachel.Kicks.Ass...

I loves me some Rachel Maddow...

[asdjrocky]

12. Great respect from me to Rachel.

I don't know if I'd be capable of being so civil to that lying piece of crap.

[xxqqqzme]

97. I think I would have ripped the pages out & thrown them

at him.

The only thing making it better is if he had a copy of his book and she asked him to read those passages. I'd call him a worm but worms are useful & I like worms.

[OneGrassRoot]

13. It was a thing of beauty......

:applause:

Rachel :yourock:


On Edit: Good on her for telling him she feels he "has blood on his hands."

He does.

[NMMNG]

16. Why are you being so nasty about him?

He just has a different viewpoint, based on his deeply held religious beliefs!

[Jenny_92808]

29. He is in it for the money...

and his work might result in murder/execution of gays.

[NMMNG]

35. My bad

I should have used the :sarcasm: but I presumed it would be obvious.

I'm a married lesbian, and one of those so-called "militant gays"....or so some would say. :hi:

[JHB]

75. If this were the best of all possible worlds, it would have been obvious...

...but in this one, there are people who really do say things like that flatly. And others who are likely more nuanced, but are skipping over those to keep the post brief.

It happens with everything communicated by short informal text messages (like message board postings), not just politics. In pre-Net college days, I was part of a club that used a log book for people to leave messages for each other (and for others, simply to opine or share their attempts at poetry). Unbelievable how many fights that book caused because sarcasm just didn't translate to prose properly. Made me see the usefulness of emoticons right off the bat ;)

[rhett o rick]

37. plez tell me you are not serious.

[NMMNG]

42. Actually I was being sarcastic

I made the mistake of presuming it would be obvious without the :sarcasm:.

If I had my way so-called "ex-gay" "therapy" would be banned. It's unscientific, hateful and even downright harmful. But since the charlatans who push it do so under the banner of "religious freedom" they're allowed to foist it upon desperate LGBT people, intolerant parents, and ignorant masses who actually think you can "cure" the perfectly natural orientation of homosexuality.

[rhett o rick]

45. Sorry, I am a little slow. nt

[tavalon]

53. He's not a smart man

Why would he go on Rachel's show of all of them? She's gay. Did he not get the memo?

[NMMNG]

55. They always like to think they can make an undeniable case for their garbage

Fools.

[tavalon]

59. Anyone with half a brain would have researched Rachel

and therefore, would have known that she wasn't just gay, she's the smartest person on television. You just don't go up against a force like that unless you don't bother to do your research. She mopped the floor with him.

[Bluenorthwest]

80. Gee, the President of the United States stands with Ex-Gays

and that sort of legitimizing emboldens these hate soaked con men. He has been told over and over, by people of great standing, that it is allowable and even laudable to slander gay people. His peer Donnie McClurkin, who has said much worse things on many more TV shows, was Obama's hand selected host and only speaker at campaign events. Democrats, including Obama, defended McClurkin's hate speech, in great detail and with unmistakable clarity. McClurkin has said that gay people 'are trying to kill our children' and Obama hired, praised and defended this when it was called out into the spotlight.
This guy just thinks he's part of the bi partisan anti minority mainstream, just like Donnie and Barack and Michelle, and their other friends like Rick Warren and Kirbyjon Caldwell.

[NMMNG]

82. They're a persecuted minority, don't you know?

Those poor people who chose to "leave homosexuality" through the power of Jesus, and are now merely trying to mind their own business while militant gays go chasing them around trying to make them turn gay again. :sarcasm:

[Rockholm]

74. Given his "causes" being gay.....

We should all be gay.

[jtrockville]

94. If his beliefs weren't being taken as FACT and used to KILL people

it might be different. Clearly has stated things in an authoritative manner, for which he has absolutely NO AUTHORITY for.

If he stated his beliefs as beliefs, I'd still think he's creepy, but wouldn't object to his proselytizing.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

105. LOL

[La Lioness Priyanka]

106. LOL

[La Lioness Priyanka]

107. LOL

[bullwinkle428]

17. I was anticipating an epic smackdown when she first announced

that this creepy loser would be guest on her show, but that truly exceeded all expectations!! :rofl:

[Raster]

18. Oh look, now the homophobes start the Unrec'ing.

Fuck you!

[JackInGreen]

61. I don't think they'd

qualify themselves as homophobes, but devout christians that agree that homosexuality is, despite all evidence anecdotal and clinical, a choice, and therefore the good doctor has some merit to them. However, the fact is it's dick thing to do, this man may say he means well and that he's only offering a choice to those that "want to get rid of undesired homosexual feelings", but it doesn't discount the methodology, faulty science, back peddling, removal from official associations, and his complicity, willing or unwilling, in the current state of affairs in Uganda.

Though you're more colorful response has more merit than any un'rec offered.

[Bluenorthwest]

85. A bigot does not get to 'qualify themselves'

They are qualified by their actions. Just because they give their neurosis and prejudices a pet name, 'Christ' or 'God' and then worship those flaws as idols does not mean they are not bigots or homophobes, it just means that they have constructed a mythology around their own flaws and endowed those flaws with supernatural authority. They are engaged in not just bigotry, but a self worshiping form of idol worship.
They can call themselves Saints. That does not make it so. The tree is named by the fruit it bears, that is their rule.

[JackInGreen]

117. If either of you think

I'm excusing the jack-asses, you're mistaken.

[TrogL]

100. My Priest is a devout Christian

and says it's about as much of a choice as your height.

[blogslut]

19. Here's what I would have asked Cohen

He threw out some lip service hoohah about how he wasn't being judgmental about gay people. He was just offering a way out for people who didn't want to be gay anymore.

I would have asked him:

"Mr. Cohen. Why didn't you want to be gay?'

[nashville_brook]

27. zing. exactly.

[Abisola]

50. I emailed her to ask him back so she could!

That's one question I'm a bit disappointed she missed that would've gotten to the heart of his real message: I'm gay & I can't come to terms with it

When she told him at the end that she wished him personal good luck, I'm sure she wanted to add '& you learn to love yourself for who you are instead of trying so hard to deny it.'

I also wish she had asked why he didn't bring at least one of the thousands of people who he bragged so much about helping go straight to tell their story so she could further reveal how ludicrous it all is!

[SallyMander]

79. Welcome to DU Abisola!

I would have liked to see her follow up on both those points as well -- she probably wished she could have smacked him around for another hour or two, but the show is too short. ;)

:hi:

[madfloridian]

21. Powerful interview on her part. He was pathetic and scary...

all the harm he does, and seems totally in denial about it.

[Raster]

41. He is trying so damned hard to rationalize his own self-hatred.

[saltpoint]

22. Was this guy shoved out onto the set to face Rachel against his will or

did he actually believe he could debate her by defending an undefendable position?

She tore him to bits.

[Raster]

52. It was Rachel or the lions. He would have done better with the lions.

[saltpoint]

56. Agree. He was about as clueless as it gets.

Sheesh.

[Odin2005]

23. Yay, Rachel!

:loveya:

[nashville_brook]

24. he's a "victim of a hate crime!!" -- had to play that back a few times... ah, good stuff.

[racaulk]

28. MOM!!! MOM!!! WHY?!?! DID?!?! YOU DO THAT?!?! TO ME?!?!

[madamesilverspurs]

30. Rachel is SOOO good!

She manages to control her facial expressions better than most would be able to. But there were a couple of moments where she looked as though she was mentally rolling her eyes at this idiot, and this would be fun to watch with the sound off just to watch her reactions. She totally mastered him -- which will probably really piss off his wife. Heh.

---

[graywarrior]

38. Mr Gray despises all talking heads, but he ADORES Rachel because she is brilliant!

[Hekate]

64. I know what you mean: Mr Hekate wants to adopt her for the same reason, LOL.

Rachel --> :yourock:

[bertman]

39. That sickening son-of-a-bitch claims that the excerpt listing all of the heinous things

Teh Gay are responsible for: child porn, child molesting, etc. etc. WON'T be in the next edition.

If you want to look at one small group of claims that might incite a bunch of homophobes to want to kill gay men and women, that ONE FUCKING EXCERPT WOULD BE IT. It wouldn't be surprising at all if that's the catalyst for the Ugandan bill.

Thank you, Rachel, for stepping on that roach.

Rec.

[Not Sure]

40. Damn, she's good.

Loved her on the radio, love her on the tv.

[Raster]

43. Kick!!!

:kick:

[Withywindle]

44. You know what I would love?

A prime-time 8-hour miniseries of Rachel Maddow taking down every single pop-psych jerk who's used junk science and motivational-speaker bullshit to promote homophobia, sexism, and racism.

That goes for 'The Bell Curve' and 'Men are From Mars, Women Are From Venus' and all that kind of shit too.

She's so good at it that after she's done, there will be no further excuse for using that tripe in an internet argument ever.

That's my fantasy. It's hotter than sex.

[Nikki Stone1]

46. "You've actually got blood on your hands here." EXCELLENT!

Scary interview.

[pleah]

47. K&R

[Nikki Stone1]

48. He's not licensed, he's not certified, and he uses weasel words to hide it.

What a deceptive person.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

49. I'd bet a week's pay

he's got problems being Jewish, too.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

124. Him and Joe Mccarthy's minion.....

Roy Cohn. Former boyfriend of Baba Wawa. Allegedly died of AIDS contracted from a doorknob.

(Old Joke: Venereal diseases are caught from having sex, but only Baptist preachers can get VD from toilet seats and doorknobs.)

[Raster]

51. Since he's "helped thousands," I'd like to see 10 step forward and face scrutiny.

The last big gay repairative guy was photographed in a gay bar, denying who he was.

[Touchdown]

66. You talking about Miss Candy? John Paulk

On September 19, 2000 while on a speaking tour, Paulk was spotted at Mr. P's, a Washington, D.C. gay bar. A patron recognized him and contacted Wayne Besen of the Human Rights Campaign, Truth Wins Out, and other gay political action organizations. When Besen arrived at the bar forty minutes later and confronted Paulk, he denied that he was in fact John Paulk. Upon exiting the bar, Paulk's picture was taken as documentation that he had been in the bar. When confronted by Besen about the incident and the photographs, Paulk admitted being in the bar, but stated that he didn’t know it was a gay bar and had simply stopped in for a moment to use the restroom. However, eyewitnesses reported that Paulk stayed for more than an hour, flirted with other men, and when questioned about his sexuality, said he was gay.<7><8>

Paulk was called back to Focus on the Family headquarters and was questioned by James Dobson. At first Paulk reportedly evaded a direct answer about the incident; however he later confessed that he had been in the bar for the purpose of flirting. Paulk was placed on probation, and was chaperoned on future speaking engagements to ensure that he had "support" in the event that he needed it. Dobson also removed Paulk from the Board Chair position of Exodus International. He remained on the board under probationary status only and was not allowed to attend meetings or vote.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paulk







It never hurts to remember their names, and what damage they caused. His year of success was 1998 with the "Love Won Out" campaign, heavily promoted in newspapers, and magazines by Focus on The Family. 1998 ended with Matthew Sheppard's murder.

[jonnyblitz]

68. LOL! I don't ever think I've seen the pic of Miss Candy fleeing

the gay bar!! :rofl:

I remember when all that happened though!!

[Raster]

99. Oh, yes. That's the one. Thank you for the poignant reminder.

[keith the dem]

104. Don't forget the thousands of suicides because of these monsters!

They kill people with their bigotry.

I belong to an "open and affirming" church. The notion that you can't be gay and a good outstanding person, let alone a Christian is a total affront to me. I know many many gay people who are 100 times the christian that these hateful bigots are.

[burning rain]

54. That was so beast.

His gambit of playing the nice guy who doesn't approve of cruelty and hatred would've worked with most interviewers, who don't do any meaningful homework, but can only nail a nasty guest if he's nasty on the spot. He wasn't dealing with most interviewers, though, but the mighty Maddow. Suffice it to say there was not much left. :nuke:

[Raster]

58. High Kicks all around for Rachel!

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:

[democrank]

60. Rachel ran Cohen through her Shred-O-Matic

and he was a pile of scraps in the end.

[Hekate]

62. I watched that with my jaw dropped. It Was A Thing Of Beauty...

... and kind of appalling to behold, to be honest. There's no doubt in my mind that guy is dangerous, and Our Rachel filleted him like a mackerel. :wow:

Dude.

I love that woman. Brains, guts, and beauty all in one.

Hekate

[Lindsey]

65. The only word to describe Racel is; AWESOME!!!!!! n/t

[Enthusiast]

67. This Uganda legislation

is fucking serious. It should be universally condemned by all Americans. It is as if the Third Reich had come back to life.

Rachel really is amazing. She deserves far more than this one hour segment at 9:00. Considering the competition, she is far and above them. Yet they have greater rewards and recognition.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

70. God Rachel is so good at that type of interview

She doesnt yell or filibuster people, she lets them hang themselves with their own rope. She is masterful at that type of thing.

[Dennis Donovan]

71. "I'm Reading It From Your Book, Dude"

She pushed him against the wall, put her finger in his face and said, "I got your number, DUDE!!":rofl:

Larry King she AIN'T!!!:bounce:

[Bonn1997]

72. I can see those on the right saying he held his own as well as a *guest* on a show can. Guests are

always at a huge disadvantage. I'd be astonished if this interview changed anyone's opinions. It probably simply gave everyone a chance to vent some anger and laugh at those with opposing views.

[Hissyspit]

73. I think public humiliation of those deserving can be effective.

And I think we ignore the dangerous in our politics at our own risk. Not saying it is not a complex, frustrating thing, but I think Rachel realizes that there are few like her who are telling the truth about these people instead of just pushing the corporate-approved 'well, there's two sides to the story, no matter how ridiculous the other side!' false non-bias.

[Bonn1997]

83. Fair enough but I actually thought she did a good but not a great job--maybe an A-

I think she could have improved her arguments by doing the following:
(A) challenging his claim that he really only wants to re-orient those who would like to be re-oriented. He kept throwing into the discussion the fact that she was gay and he appeared to have a more general disdain toward homosexuals. She simply ignored him whenever he threw her orientation. I wish she had said something like, "So if I understand your position correctly, you are happy for homosexuals who--like me--are happy with and proud of their sexual orientation and you would discourage them from changing a characteristic they're happy with?" I think he'd have a hard time agreeing with that statement but if he did agree with it she could ask, "Where can I find this view of yours in your writing, or is it position you never before expressed but found convenient for this show? Perhaps she could add quotes where he says the program is for gays without adding that it's only gays who want to change. *IF*, on the other hand, he has expressed the view elsewhere that this program is only for those who would like to change their orientation, then I believe she misrepresented his position. Whether or not you agree with his views (and I don't), they should not be misrepresented.

(B) challenging him on the scientific evidence for re-orientation. I don't know if she actually read the studies in the psychological literature but she should have read them and then presented the results and asked him to explain them. She could have also discussed limitations of his own research (or whatever observations he's basing his conclusions on).

(C) asking him to explain why--if it's only psychological factors that cause homosexuality--homosexual behavior has been observed in approximately 1500 different animal species. Is it only psychological factors causing their homosexuality too? If so, what exactly are these so called psychological factors?

I do think Rachel did a reasonably good job even though I'm presenting what I think are weaknesses in her interview. I don't think she did an outstanding job, though. There was too much room for improvement IMO--too much room to have really destroyed his position.

[Sparkly]

108. I disagree -- she kept it on track.

I think it could easily have gone wayyy off into details of all sorts.

His personal "disdain" wasn't the issue -- it's the fact that he's a) a fraud; b) being used politically, and he knows it, to defend killing gay people. (Also a coward, hypocrite, and liar.)

It was enough for her to discredit him by enumerating all the organizations that have refuted and rejected his "work," and to emphasize that he holds no professional license. She got her point across -- it's quackery, and it's dangerous.

[Bonn1997]

114. How would anything I said be going off track? I view as staying on track but doing so more

powerfully.
Also, I'm a fairly independent thinker who goes against the masses quite often (as an atheistic vegan). So being told a professional organization disputes someone's claims doesn't mean anything to me other than that the masses in an organization (likely simply more than 50% of a certain committee) disputed the work. Maybe it would have been a good starting point followed by actually discussing the evidence but the mere disapproval from organizations is not going to change anyone's opinion IMO. And it alone shouldn't.

[BigBearJohn]

76. Rachel throws out the garbage. /nt

[PSzymeczek]

119. Absolutely.

The smartest grrl in the room!

[myrna minx]

77. K&R n/t

[Swamp Rat]

78. k&r

[SallyMander]

81. I want to be Rachel when I grow up!

:D

[freddie mertz]

84. RESPECT! Rachel is probably the best interviewer in the business.

Professional, civil, but super-prepared and devastatingly honest and pointed in questioning.

She makes the likes of David gregory look like the frat-boy nitwits they are.

[Bluenorthwest]

86. What is scary is that the President thinks highly of such people

He says the ex gay movement is made up of 'good, decent and moral people' and claims that theirs is a holy and religious stance. He defends them with in such a way that one could call his advocacy for the bigots a 'fierce advocacy' as I have never in my long life heard anyone with the position and status of Barack Obama defend such ignorance.

[NMMNG]

87. Some people here do as well

They're just defending their "deeply held beliefs"...it's "how they were raised". Bigotry, even when it seriously harms--or kills--others, is given a free pass when it's done in the name of "tradition" and "religious beliefs".

[Bluenorthwest]

90. Ah yes. But their days of comfrot are coming to an end

I see them here, but their beliefs are not deeply held, and they barely know their own 'faith'. It is just a facade for their own prejudices.

[theblasmo]

88. A Little Mr. Show Commentary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRT3zs23sLk

[dem mba]

102. haha

i always think of that when i hear about these "curing the gays" people.

"after my fifteenth lapse into homo-sinuality..."

[Christa]

89. K & Highly rec'd

She is the best of the best.

[glinda]

91. I thought he took the opportunity to advertise for his self and to absolve himself from

the law to kill or imprison homosexuals.

[PavePusher]

92. I don't often agree with Ms. Maddow about ANYTHING...

but on this one, I completely endorse her. I wouldn't mind seeing those guys beaten with nail-studded clueX4's...

[GreenTea]

110. Not even Rachel's views on health care, on global warming on exposing the C St. hypocrites you don't

agree with her....Who do you agree with? Do you ever watch Fox news, ever? Do you consider yourself a moderate as opposed to a progressive? Just wondering....I don't know of a more progressive person on the air who is more progressive, fair and as well informed & prepared than Rachel Maddow...So who do you consider that tell the truth and meets your ideology?

[PavePusher]

120. I think 95% of the MSM is full...

of hot air and opinion and righteous-outrage-du-jour and remarkably devoid of fact and substance. On all sides. FOX, MSNBC, CBS, ABS, NBC, etc. are all just different sides of the same coin. Or perhaps dice (die, sing.?) would be more appropriate. Anyway, crap, all of 'em, and I avoid 'em like the plague.

[TommyO]

95. This freak has the audacity to claim that he's the victim of a hate crime

for being booted from the American Counseling Association.

From Wikipedia: In 2002 Cohen was permanently expelled from the American Counseling Association, after it accused him of six violations of its ethics code, which bars members from actions which "seek to meet their personal needs at the expense of clients, those that exploit the trust and dependency of clients, and for soliciting testimonials or promoting products in a deceptive manner."

[liberation]

96. If I were a Christian....

... I would remind this self hating basket case, that there are more passages in the bible chastising lying, false witness, boastful idolatry of God, and usury... by a biiiiiig difference, than there are mentions of homosexuality. And I am yet to see any of these evangelical jackasses even say as much as a peep against Wall Street and the damage they have done to the lives of untold numbers of people in the name of unmitigated greed. Which again, I will point out, it is discussed at far greater depth... than men laying with each other. Selective bunch, these a**holes are eh?


Because, let's face it... the "son of god" was in his 30s, single and roaming around with a dozen of single guys... in a society and time were he would have been expected to be married and popping kids for over a decade already. Maybe Jesus was the original closet case?

[ChickMagic]

101. I sometimes think that cockroaches like him

think that killing gays will bring holiness to themselves
because they will no longer have lustful thoughts over others
like them. Teh gays are wayz too hot!

If anyone believes that they wouldn't pull a Uganda here if they
could only get away with it, they are completely mistaken.

I usually laugh while she's delivering a KO punch to the RW
bastards, but I didn't crack a smile at this one. Way too
dangerous and way too deadly.

[Gamey]

103. Blames his father! What a creep!

[GreenTea]

109. He's the same as a carnival huckster-con man-charlatan. But what this lying asshole is selling is

bullshit, baseless, nonsensical tapes, DVD/CD & seminars to be used to discriminate against and even kill innocent people, all for his own sick selfish profit, built on hate, fear & lies all for monetary gain!

[ashling]

111. My only problem with her interview was the part where he said

that he would "take that out of the next edition." --not in the next printing of this edition. She should have challenged him to retract that right now for the record in any unsold copies of this edition -- of which I am sure there are many.

Other than that ....

[loyalkydem]

112. That

was my favorite interview of all time. She destroyed that twerp

[Plucketeer]

113. It's stupid to front dumb shit like this

What's worse tho, is adamantly standing in defense of your stupidity! OF COURSE, look how many trust their lives (deaths?) to a "sky god". How looney is that? :crazy:

[blaze]

115. 'nother K&R n/t

[mod mom]

116. Late to this thread but loved it in real time!

[undeterred]

121. Didn't he say "the gay" could be cured by punching a pillow?

[nicky187]

122. Dr. Maddow pwned him.

Is there anyone that she could not pwn?

[alp227]

123. Lawlz. Cohen was so frickin evasive and timewasting

Rachel Mad-own, hahaha. I'm watchin the interview right now embedded on a blog. This is EPIC. For all the times that Cohen evaded Maddow or claimed victimhood of a hate crime, I say have a drink on that.