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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:34 PM
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CNN Reporting: Public Option "Replaced" by Non-Profit Private Insurance
(CNN) -- Liberal and moderate Democrats have reached "broad agreement" on the public option portion of the Senate health care bill,

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Two Democratic sources said that the deal includes proposals to replace the public option by creating a not-for-profit private insurance option overseen by the federal Office of Personnel Management, much like the current health plan for federal workers, and another allowing people 55 and older to buy into Medicare coverage that currently is available to those 65 and older.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/12/08/health.care/index.html
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stevebreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:41 PM
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1. so the insurance co's are going to compete with themselves and that's gonna
drive down cost? yea right
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:46 PM
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2. And "keep them honest"
:sarcasm:
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:51 PM
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6. You think the public option was designed to "compete" with anything?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:56 PM
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9. don't forget
they will remain exempt from anti-trust laws.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:47 PM
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3. We undid not-for-profit insurance in the 80s
because the Blues said they couldn't provide competitive coverage. Surely one of these people remembers the 80s?
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mcablue Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:49 PM
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4. A majority supported the public option
The majority loses.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:51 PM
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5. According to TPM, failure with the non-profits would trigger the public option.
Everywhere you turn there's another inside story, but apparently we're not going to get a definitive explanation until it's been scored.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:53 PM
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7. Next time the party wants to win a majority they can count me out
Majorities in our government now just equals the ability to sell their votes for more money than they received as the minority.

It makes not one bit of difference to the voters anymore.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 02:29 AM
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14. No. It makes a difference. Just not a 180-degree difference.
As frustrating as our sorry Democratic majority is (and I rag on them a lot here), at least it includes a handful of genuine champions, where in the GOP, there are nothing but genuine asshats. It makes a difference. Not nearly enough of a difference, but the significance of the chairmanships and the choice of bills brought to the floor -- can't be overstated. Hang in there. I know how you feel. We gotta keep the pressure on, and we will.
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:55 PM
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8. Would the non-profit plan take three years to set up?
Would it be available to anyone who wants it? Depending on the details, this could be better than a watered-down, restrictive public option. I also like the idea of allowing people to buy into Medicare. That's an instant public option, at least for those in the 55-64 age group.

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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 12:06 AM
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12. You do know that there are no subsidies for the buy-in till 2013 right? $800
per month per person or there about is the cost. Yeah! Maybe after 2013 it will only be a part of that - who knows. The repubs will probably be in charge by then so I don't count on it.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 01:05 AM
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13. If I were still employed and getting insurance through work, I'd choke on the
$800 price tag. That's supposed to be a government plan? I'd stick with my employer provided insurance for about $200 a month.

This isn't helping a lot. And what of all the people between now and 2013? How many will die between now and then for lack of coverage?

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 02:33 AM
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15. Who the FUCK has $800.00 dollars to spare?
Not me.

BHN
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:59 PM
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10. Been there done that! No! (nt)
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 12:03 AM
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11. Really not much to see here until we get the details. n/t
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 02:54 AM
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16. New scheme would involve a government-run monopoly, but give the profits to the private sector


All the costs go to the taxpayer while the insurance companies rake in enormous profits


Sounds exactly like the bankster bailout program.

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