Hey DU! Remember Who Got Us in This Mess!

[Octafish]

This guy did business with the NAZIs, even after they declared war on this country. Before the war, he was part of a plot to overthrow FDR. The special relationship continued after the war. His son and grandson, George Herbert Walker (Poppy Doc) Bush, and grandson, George Walker (AWOL) Bush, would each "serve" as President of the United States. Each started unnecessary, illegal and immoral wars and crafted fiscal policies that only served to bankrupt the nation, penure the middle class, and enrich their cronies. These two also helped their Banking Industrial Congressional Complex pals get away with the loot.

It's not ironic to say they have hurt the United States more than any enemy. It's a family tradition.

[dflprincess]

1. And FDR let him get by with it

no doubt "for the good of the country". And Clinton let Poppy get by with his crimes, now Obama is ignoring Junior. Another American tradition.

Did you know that the Connecticut Republican's annual dinner is named for Prescott - a man who committed treason?

[Octafish]

8. ''For the good of the country.''

LBJ's the one that bothers me, personally.

Mr. McKnight is professor emeritus of history at Hood College in Frederick, MD and the author of the new book, Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why (University Press of Kansas). The following article was drawn from his book.

How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why

“No, don’t dig up the past! Dwell on the past and you’ll lose an eye.” But the proverb goes on to say, “Forget the past, lose both eyes.” —Alexander Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

By Gerald D. McKnight
HNN.com
11-28-05

After forty years the “who” and “why” of Dallas longs for an answer that cannot be given definitively and responsibly. A clear explanation was made impossible by the official conspiracy to see to it that there could be no other answer as soon as it was known that Lee Harvey Oswald, then the only suspect in the crime, had been assassinated and there would be no trial. Since there was no good-faith effort to investigate JFK’s murder, there are few leads from the official evidence that the private researcher can use as a basis for solving the crime.

Despite the official mythology that Oswald acting alone killed President Kennedy, government documents and records reveal that there were two conspiracies. The first was the one that took Kennedy’s life. The other was the bloodless one engaged in by officialdom—President Johnson, FBI director Hoover, the Justice Department, the Secret Service, the U.S. Navy, the CIA, and the members of the Warren Commission. All of them conspired to foist a counterfeit solution to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on the American public. Although they all conspired, to one degree or another, to hide the truth that Kennedy was the victim of a conspiracy, it does not necessarily follow that any of them were guilty of the original crime— the planning and execution of JFK’s murder. At the same time, that possibility cannot be excluded.

With the crime now four decades in the past, no researcher can possibly truthfully answer the “who” and “why” of the JFK assassination. So far there has been no “smoking gun” uncovered among the four or five million pages of government documents released into the public domain and currently housed at the National Archives and Records Administration at College Park, Maryland; nor is there likely to be since those responsible for uncovering the facts of the assassination never investigated the crime. Unlike pulp-fiction mysteries, in real life there usually is no smoking gun. Although this book has not uncovered any such clue, it has unearthed out of the massive official record of the crime unanswered questions and impossibilities galore regarding ballistics, the nature of JFK’s wounds, the ignored testimony of key witnesses, the suppression and destruction of evidence, and a pattern of official lies and cover-up that continues to this day despite national legislation that calls for full disclosure and release of documents and records relating to the JFK assassination.

A thread of recognition runs through the record, exposing the hard truth that all those responsible for reporting on the crime knew at one point or another in the investigation that Kennedy was the victim of a conspiracy. President Johnson was never in doubt that his sudden and accidental elevation to the presidency was the result of a conspiracy to take the life of John F. Kennedy. The weekend following the assassination, early intelligence from DCI McCone and Director Hoover persuaded Johnson that the tragedy in Dallas was the result of a “Red plot” hatched in Mexico City. This alone was reason enough for LBJ, Hoover, and Katzenbach to agree that a higher national purpose would be served by “settling the dust of Dallas” as quickly as possible. Like most Americans at the time, LBJ accepted at face value the existence of an international communist conspiracy. With Director Hoover’s assistance the White House moved quickly to discourage all official talk of a “Red plot,” with the attendant unthinkable consequences of missiles flying and forty million American lives hanging in the balance. Years later LBJ entertained the likelihood that the CIA had had something to do with Kennedy’s assassination.

As early as the weekend after the assassination the FBI suspected that there was a conspiracy when it learned of an Oswald imposter in Mexico City. By January, if not before, these suspicions had hardened into a dead certainty when FBI photoanalysts examined the Zapruder film and slides made from this historic film. The FBI interpreters concluded that the first shot at the presidential limousine had come before Zapruder frame 170, before a shot could have come from the “sniper’s nest” because the view would have been obstructed by a live oak tree in full foliage in front of the Texas School Book Depository. Based on these findings, the only tenable conclusion confronting the FBI was either that Oswald had not been the assassin or that he had had an accomplice. Anticipating the FBI, the CIA’s National Photographic Intelligence Center (NPIC) ran its own analysis of the Zapruder film over the weekend following the assassination. Like their FBI counterparts, the NPIC interpreters established that the first shot came before Oswald could have had a clear view of the presidential limo and that there were at least two shooters.

CONTINUED...

http://hnn.us/articles/16615.html

Wow, dflprincess! Thanks for the heads-up on Connecticut GOP din-din. Most of the boys in that group probably haven't read a book since high school -- too busy playing golf (Pres was head of the USGA in the 30s) and reading the stock ticker.

[happyslug]

68. Good site, it just ignore the evidence to the contrary

Many people do NOT like the Warren Commission's determination, but it at least addressed many of the attacks made on it.

The problem is nobody disproved the Warren Commission's findings. People have rejected those finding but NOT disproved it. The closest thing to disproving it was the House Select Committee on Assassinations find based on a recording that four shots had been fired, subsequent studies however rejects fours shots, and call the "fourth Shot" just static that was common on the recording device the recording was done on. For more on the actual assassination see the following, they do a better job then I do in pointing out that no one has disproved the Warren Commission AND that the Warren Commission's findings are still the best researched findings on the Subject:

For more on the Kennedy's Assassination:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

As to actual conspiracies to kill Kennedy, People have speculated for decades but tend to ignore the most likely conspiracy, which was NEVER hidden for the most important part of the conspiracy was that it be known to the maximum number of people to work. The Conspiracy would have worked this way, first attack Kennedy (Or who ever you want dead) on the left and right and start using the terms "If this was a just country he be killed", "I wish someone would kill the President" etc. This gets the idea of killing the President to the Maximum number of people who "agrees" with these speakers. Sooner or later someone who agrees with such speakers will take it upon themselves to kill the President. Notice no connection between the people spreading the hate message and the actual assassin. No actual connection, nothing to trace.

The second step is weaken the security around the person you want dead. One way to do this is to cut back or undermine the Security around the President so a lone gunman can do the job. Exactly where or how the job is done is unimportant for if step one is working sooner or later some nut will do the job if the Security is weak enough. One way to achieve this lack of Security is to always complain that the President rides with the top up so no one can see him, thus forcing the President to address that complaint, repeated by others who hear the complaint to ride without the Bullet Proof Top, which is what Kennedy did in Dallas.

Another effort can be to show that the President will have trouble winning a key area in his quest for reelection (This was why Kennedy went to Dallas, so he could win it in 1964, Texas today is a solid Republican State but in the 1960s it was a swing state that a Democrat had to win to win election).

Notice NONE of the above requires any real actions on part of the "conspirators" all they have to do is spread they hate (Which they did in the 1960s in the form of Pamphlets and Newspapers, today it is the net and talk-radio).

Now, if the conspirators are involved in the Government, undermine the Security from within (This is a lot harder, but can be done WITHOUT risking a murder charge). This could be why Oswald was never reported to the FBI as a possible Security risk. Someone could suggest to the Secret Service to out on the town the night before th President arrives instead of checking out all the tall buildings (The Secret Service agents in Dallas went to Go-Go lounges the night before instead of driving through the parade route and checking out all of the tall buildings). Don't tell the local police about any concerns in regard to their local citizens (Given the lack of reports to the FBI on Oswald, second nature).

Notice no effort to actually made to kill the President but you have set up a process that sooner or later will invite in some nut (like Oswald) to do the job. The agencies involved would assist in any cover-up, NOT to protect the conspirators but to protect their own image (Which is what happen in regards to the FBI, CIA, the Dallas Police, the Anti-Castro and Pro-Castor Groups and even the KGB). Sooner or later a nut will work his or her way through security, the greater pool of nuts wanting to kill the President the sooner an attempt will be made. That is all anybody who truly wants the President needs to do. If you have a large enough pool of "nuts" someone like Oswald will sooner or later walk up to the plate and sooner or later security will throw someone at the plate a bad pitch.

Yes, I see the same thing going on in regards to Obama, no conspiracy per se, but attacks on him, calls for his death etc. Hopefully the agencies involved with his protection are up to the job but in many ways we are in the same situation Kennedy was in in 1963, the need to be outgoing to please his supporters (and other who would vote for him) at the same time that opens him up to that large segment of the population who would like him dead. Notice the first step is the call for his assassination, and that is the Key Step. Once you have enough people viewing themselves as the "Only" people willing and able to do the job (Able is a key world for if one gets caught, the person caught is called unable and thus does NOT discourage others who have similar plans) someone will step up to the plate IF AN OPENING OPENS UP (as it did in Dallas in 1963). That is what happened to Kennedy, he was attacked by the far right, demands were made for his removal for he was a Communist (among other accusations). He was attacked on the left in many communist pamphlets at the same time. That is the Conspiracy that killed Kennedy, the constant demands for his death "To save the US" NOT some plan for a second gunman with Oswald as a patsy. You set up a environment that calls for a large number of people to try to kill one person, sooner or later that will happen. If you can undermine Security you can speed it up. You do NOT need to do more then that, for if you do someone will talk before the Assassination ever takes place, no the better policy is to set up an environment where a loner will do the job.

Given the above there would be nothing to trace, so it is untraceable (What can be traced, the demands for the President's death comes under Freedom of the Press). This is the problem people have with Kennedy's assassination, it was clear people in the US wanted him dead, and thus they were involved, but the American People are uncomfortable with the fact that propaganda kills, we like the idea we can hear such hate and ignore it. The problem is that is NOT true, if you hear it often enough it will have some affect on you (Ad agency depend on that fact in Advertising campaigns). Kennedy was killed by those people who called for his death, they did NOT pull the trigger and never had anything to do with the actual pulling of the trigger, all they did was put the idea in enough minds that it would occur sooner or later and did. That was the Conspiracy that Killed Kennedy and we are uncomfortable for it is one of the cost of Freedom of the Press.

[leftstreet]

2. Remind me. Why haven't any of these people been prosecuted?

Oh, that's right. There'd have to actually be an INVESTIGATION or two!

Teh Congress haz no ballz

K&R

[dflprincess]

3. Neither does the justice department

These are Federal crimes, they don't need an okay from Congress to investigate them.

[OHdem10]

4. There seems to be some sort of Presidential Club in which each

Administrations looks out for or protects the previous.

GWB, protected Clinton's Papers and works with a vengeance.
Different organizations would try but GW stood his ground.

Clinton protected Daddy Bush and papers from his administration
Daddy Bush protected Reagan.

This is not written down anywhere, I just observed it. It just'
appears to be tradition.

[Enthusiast]

6. The PTB remain the same,

only the actors change. Sort of like when "Bewitched" got a new Darin.

[tblue37]

53. And Sarah Chalke became Becky on _Rosanne_ for a couple of seasons. nt

[bdamomma]

31. oh sure, they do look out for each other, especially

if they went to the same college, Skull and Bones Society crap.

[Octafish]

9. It is weird. Just ask former Gov. Don Siegelman

From TPM:

'Disappointed' Siegelman: Obama Justice Dept. Virtually The Same As Bush DOJ

Justin Elliott
TPM.com
11/25/09

When the Obama Administration argued in a filing earlier this month that the Supreme Court should not consider an appeal by Don Siegelman, the former Alabama governor wasn't surprised, even though the Obama filing maintained the Bush-era stance in Siegelman's controversial corruption case.

"There's really been no substantial change in the heart of the Department of Justice from the Bush-Rove Department of Justice," Siegelman tells TPMmuckraker in an interview.

CONTINUED...

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/don-siegelman/2009/11/

We really are through the looking glass when Democrats think it's OK for Republicans to use the Justice Department to persecute and railroad good Democrats.

[Enthusiast]

73. It's a disappointment to us

also, Governor Siegelman. At first I was thought, maybe they haven't had time to change the Bush appointments. Now I suspect they are ideologically alright with the Obama Administration. And this sickens me.

[racaulk]

10. Oh there is plenty of time for investigations.

When the Congress feels a Democratic President has done something wrong.

[newtothegame]

26. I can tell you exactly why they haven't been prosecuted.

We were too busy buying commemorative plates and t-shirts of the "historic" election.

[NJmaverick]

30. I am pretty sure the guy in the picture is dead

[Octafish]

57. It's what happens to us all. The thing is, I try to avoid it and help others do the same.

Other people, though, like members of Skull & Bones, who really value the Death Thing, see it differently:

"Money trumps peace...Sometimes." -- George Walker Bush, warmonger, cronie capitalist, and all around-nothing, the OP's dim grandson.

[Ken Burch]

67. I've always felt that one of the main reasons the postwar "Red Scare" was whipped up

was to silence the people who would have organized public support for war crimes trials against the American upper class.

[dysfunctional press]

71. his existence proves that time travel to the past will never be possible.

otherwise, somebody would surely have iced his infant grandparents, or something.

[Karenina]

5. . .

:kick:

[Octafish]

13. Prescott would be so proud of the tax cuts for the rich and permawar.

He also liked Iraq'a oil. Another Bush Trifecta, from way back -- '59:

To Preserve Peace Let’s Show Russians How Strong We Are

By Prescott Bush
U.S. Senator from Connecticut;
member of the Senate Armed Services Committee
The Reader’s Digest
July 1959 pp. 25-30

MAN’S GREATEST danger, it is said, is ignorance. In a very real sense, the Soviet Union’s ignorance of our military strength may be the source of her gravest peril—and ours. Kaiser Wilhelm started World War I because he miscalculated Allied power. Hitler, mistakenly thinking he could blitz the world, launched World War II. Kruschev today lacks firsthand knowledge of our country; he may be given what others think he would like to hear—rather than an objective report on our actual military strength. Although it seems impossible that any sane person could start a war, we would be wise to take no chances.

Why not invite the Soviet high command to the United States for a conducted tour of our military might? We are bringing Russians to see our farms and factories, our scientific laboratories and research centers; we exchange dancers and musicians. Why not have their military leaders over for the most beneficial look of all? Our expressed policy, the aim and purpose of our entire defense system, is to deter the Kremlin from starting a war. What better way to deter than to show?

What we could show is nothing more nor less than the greatest military might ever assembled in the history of the world. If the Soviet high command could see what we have, they should be of our mind—that for them to start war today would be an act of insanity.

We could start in a Pentagon briefing room. There, with maps, globes, films and sound-projection equipment to help illustrate our points, we could give them a good hard look at the distribution of American power. Then we could fly the group to Mountain Home Air Force Base in Montana, where bombers of the Strategic Air Command are on 24-hour alert, many ready to take off within 15 minutes. We could see an awe-inspiring line of B-47’s, any one of which can, in a single mission, deliver explosive power equivalent to that of all the bombs dropped by all sides in World War II. We could invite the commander of the Soviet air force to ride in one of these planes, and see it refueled in the air, thus quietly demonstrating that, while most Soviet bombers would have to fly one-way missions, ours can strike any target in the world and return nonstop.

SNIP...

Would you trade places with the Russians?

It’s fortunate for them that we want only peace with justice. Our entire record attests to that. We have no history of aggression, profess no desire for world domination, as do the Communists. Only by their continued menace have we been forced to take these measures for defense.

I ASK, “Why don’t we show the Russians many of these defense measures?” What I would not show them is any self-satisfaction on our part about the future, any slowing-up of plans to produce the new weapons which must inevitably take the place of the old ones. I believe we are in a continuing struggle to keep on top in this business of declaring war. I think that the Russians are never to be underrated. I also believe that the Communists are master bluffers that they seek to put us off by arrogant threats to Berlin and to the peace of the far Pacific, and, while our people are preoccupied with these threats, they may try to take over Iraq as the Chinese Reds have conquered Tibet.

We dare not be complacent. But we need not, on the other hand, be frightened. At present, ours is the more powerful military force the stronger alliance, the more advantageous strategic position, the more productive economy. And there is no reason why we should not continue to lead the Soviet Union in the years ahead.

SOURCE: READER’S DIGEST JUNE 1959

By Prescott Bush
U.S. Senator from Connecticut;
member of the Senate Armed Services Committee
The Reader’s Digest
July 1959 pp. 25-30

Thank you for caring, Karenina!

[Echo In Light]

24. +1

[BeFree]

7. Biggest crime family

Worse than the mafia.

Just the other day some dude on DU was telling me they liked GHW . Gawd!!

[Octafish]

14. The Bush Family: A Continuing Criminal Enterprise?

An excellent overview from a brave academic:

The Bush Family: A Continuing Criminal Enterprise?

Gary W. Potter, PhD.
Professor, Criminal Justice
Eastern Kentucky University

The S&Ls, the Mob and the Bushs

During the 1980's hundred of Savings and Loan Banks failed. Those bank failures cost U.S. taxpayers over $500 billion to cover federally insured losses, and much more to investigate the bank failures (Pizzo, Fricker, and Muolo, 1989; Brewton, 1992; Johnston, 1990). More than 75% of the Savings and Loan insolvencies where directly linked to serious and often criminal misconduct by senior financial insiders (Pizzo, Fricker and Muolo, 1989: 305). In fact, less than 10 percent of bank failures are related to economic conditions, the rest are caused by mismanagement or criminal conduct (Pizzo, Fricker and Muolo, 1989: 305).

A good example of the Savings and Loan failures can be found in the activities of Mario Renda, a Savings and Loan insider who often worked in close collaboration with organized crime (Pizzo, Fricker and Muolo, 1989: 123-126;302). Renda served as a middle man in arranging about $5 billion a year in deposits into 130 Savings and Loans, all of which failed (Kwitny, 1992: 27). Many of these deposits were made contingent on an agreement that the Savings and Loan involved would lend money to borrowers recommended by Renda, many of whom were organized crime figures or people entirely unknown to the banking institution involved (Kwitny, 1992: 27).

Equally good examples of financial misconduct in the Savings and Loan scandal is found in the activities of the Bush family. In some cases Bush family members helped skim Savings and Loan funds which were delivered to outsiders as a part of deals involving lucrative payoffs to bank directors. In other cases, members of the Bush family intervened to influence decisions involving highly speculative and unsound investments involving loans that would not be repaid if the venture was not profitable. And finally, the Bush family’s political connection served to protect those guilty of misconduct in the Savings and Loan scandal (Kwitny, 1992: 24).

Neil Bush: Taking Down Silverado

CONTINUED...

http://critcrim.org/critpapers/potter.htm

Same thing happened to me on DU, BeFree. Wish I could show you the post, but it's been deleted. Going from memory: The longtime DUer defended GHWB as likeable, etc., but "I didn't agree much with his policies." That sounds nice, but I don't recall seeing a single posting from him that slammed the Bush crime family, evah. The fellow also believes in the magic bullet theory and that GWB told the truth regarding September 11. Nice.

[racaulk]

11. One of the most evil and corrupt souls to ever walk this planet.

K&R

[Octafish]

15. Prescott also was interested in eugenics before the war.

http://www.tribalmessenger.org/t-secret-gov/eugenics.htm

Might explain the lack of concern for the less well-off, in general, as well as short people*, socially.

Know your BFEE: Eugenics and the NAZIs - The California Connection

* Octafish is short, sub-Napoleonic actually.

[racaulk]

17. You know, I didn't know that before now.

But considering Prescott's links to Hitler and his Nazi regime, that absolutely does not surprise me. What a throughly disgusting person that man was. The effects of his evil are still felt today, and may yet be for generations to come. His great-grandson, aptly named George Prescott Bush, is being groomed for political office as we speak.

The BFEE's evil lives on, and it all started with Prescott.

:grr:

[i miss america]

36. K&R

* Octafish is short, sub-Napoleonic actually.

Perhaps, but in my eyes you cast a very large shadow. Thank you for your tireless work to present the truth and expose the traitors. :applause:

[NJmaverick]

12. How quickly so many DUers have forgotten this or have decided to ignore this

[Octafish]

19. Prescott's pals liked golf. Ever hear of the ''The Hitler Cup''?

Like with almost everything BFEE to the press corpse, missed news:

Golfers' trophy that upset Hitler turns up in Glasgow

By Auslan Cramb, Scotland Correspondent
Last Updated: 12:01am BST 26/03/2004

The Hitler Cup, one of sport's most unusual trophies, has turned up in a businessman's display case in Glasgow, solving one of golf's strangest mysteries.

Competing theories have been aired in newspapers and golfing journals about the whereabouts of the amber-encrusted brass salver, which provoked a temper tantrum from Adolf Hitler when it was won by English golfers.

Some reports suggested it had been "stolen to order", others that it was gathering dust in an attic somewhere. In fact, for the past 10 years the trophy has been owned by Leonard Sculthorp, 73.

The Hitler Cup was commissioned by the Fuhrer and was to be presented to the winners of an amateur international tournament in the spa town of Baden-Baden immediately after the Berlin Olympics in 1936.

CONTINUED...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/main.jhtml?xml=/education/2004/04/24/tehGngolf26.xml

Thanks for knowing what it's all about, NJmaverick. Seeing how the mainstream media won't do their job, we must.

[WCGreen]

16. Excellent point...

[Octafish]

21. Prescott Bush and the Golden Age of War Profiteering

News from a more simple time:

PRESCOTT BUSH AND THE GOLDEN AGE OF WAR PROFITEERING

by Randy Reynolds
Friday, April 13, 2007

EXCERPT...

Although Prescott Bush was a lowly tire salesman when he married Dorothy Walker, his fortunes had quickly improved. His father-in-law George Herbert Walker elevated him to the vice-presidency of Brown Brothers Harriman, which financed exports of gold, steel, weapons and people to Nazi Germany.

Bush ran Hamburg-American passenger line on which American Nazi sympathizers emigrated to Germany under the tutelage of a Nazi "political director." Bush also helped organize and run UBC, a bank holding company that oversaw many of Hitler's worldwide investments.

From tire salesman to Hitler's chief banker and exporter in America, Prescott Bush had come a long way by the time Hamburg-American and UBC were confiscated by the U.S. government. Instead of being tried for treason, his name was kept out of the spotlight and he was given 1.5 million dollars for his one share of stock in UBC.

Five years after World War II, a Connecticut senator died. Prescott Bush who maintained residences in four different states ran for the vacant seat and lost. Two years later another Connecticut senator died, and this time, Bush won.

He personally recruited Dwight D. Eisenhower to run for president. He and his fellow war profiteers would be bitterly disappointed by Eisenhower's warnings against the military-industrial complex....but that was in the future.

Bush also pushed for Richard Nixon as Vice-President, and was a major donor to Nixon until well into the 1960's.

So there was a point in the 50's, when Prescott Bush must have felt like the king of the world:

• He had survived being implicated in a coup against a President of the United States.

• He had thrived even after the defeat of his major client, Adolf Hitler's Nazi regime.

• He had avoided being tried for treason, though the Justice Department had considered it.

• Both the President and Vice-President of the United States were personally indebted to
him.

• His lawyer Allen Dulles was head of the CIA (and gave his boy George H.W. Bush a job.)

• His business partner John Foster Dulles was Secretary of State.

• His business partner Averell Harriman was Governor of New York, later Ambassador to
the Soviet Union.

• Best of all, wars were breaking out all over the globe.

It was the dawn of a golden age of war profiteering.

CONTINUED...

http://reynoldswriter.blogspot.com/2007/04/prescott-bush-and-golden-age-of-war.html

Thanks for caring, WCGreen.

[bdamomma]

32. what a corrupt bastard!!!

thanks for the post. Just shows you how the big boys never pay for their crimes.

[Overseas]

55. Quite a resume! And all this time I thought Dick Cheeney was the champ.

Being Sec Def and pushing for privatization of military services.
Then CEO of Halliburton selling said services to said govt.
Then warmonger VP inventing new wars and privatizing more, including the Christian Upstart Blackwater/Xe.

[malaise]

18. Great reminder

Rec

[Octafish]

22. Spartacus Schoolnet fills in a few branches of the Family tree...

Harriman, for those new to the subject, was a Wall Street insider who rose to the top of the heap on the Democratic side of the aisle.

Spartacus Schoolnet UK

In 1926, Bush's father-in-law, appointed him vice-president of W. A. Harriman & Company. This company had made considerable investments in Germany. At the end of the war, the commercial steamships of Hamburg-Amerika were confiscated by the United States government. As the authors of George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography have pointed out: "These ships had then become the property of the Harriman enterprise, by some arrangements with the U.S. authorities that were never made public." In doing so, Harriman created the world's largest private shipping line.

Samuel Pryor, the chairman of Remington Arms, and George Herbert Walker, both became directors of the American Ship and Commerce Company, Harriman's shipping front organization. Walker and Harriman set up their European headquarters in Berlin. With the help of the Warburg Bank, W. A. Harriman began to invest heavily in German industry.

In 1926 Prescott Bush became vice president of W. A. Harriman & Company. Soon afterwards the company expanded into the Soviet Union. After negotiations with Leon Trotsky and Felix Dzerzhinsky, Harriman obtained a contract to mine manganese. In 1927 the company was criticized for its support of totalitarian governments in Italy and the Soviet Union. George Herbert Walker wrote to W. Averell Harriman pointing out that "the suggestion... that we withdraw from Russia smacks some what of the impertinent.. I think that we have drawn our line and should hew to it" (11th August, 1927).

W. Averell Harriman also formed a partnership with the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen. In 1926 Harriman and Clarence Dillon of Dillon Read Company helped Thyssen and Friedrich Flick to establish the German Steel Trust. According to Anton Chaitkin: "The Flick-Harriman partnership was directly supervised by Prescott Bush". Dillon Read provided two representatives to the board of the German Steel Trust and took responsibility for its corporate banking.

SOURCE: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/MDbushPR.htm

And that's how one regular guy hooked up with the swells. Not "The End."

Thanks for caring, malaise.

[Overseas]

56. Wow. A famous Democratic family in the mix. //nt

[Octafish]

62. One of America's ''Real Owners''...

The guy's widow helped Bill Clinton during his darkest hour. Her late husband, is an interesting fellow in the Wall Street Oh-So-Social sense:

Know your BFEE: Hitler’s Bankers Shaped Vietnam War

Those old school ties. E Howard Hunt!

[mod mom]

20. I hope all new to DU will take the time to read your links! rec'd

[Octafish]

40. The links are the best part...

...that's where all the DUers chip in, including you, my Friend!

For those new to the subject, a 2003 example from the great DUer bobthedrummer:

It's time for another Bush/NAZI thread

The truth is a mighty thing, able to change minds and move hearts.

[AllentownJake]

23. FDR should have tried him for treason

than enforced the appropriate punishment. Too bad.

[Octafish]

44. Was there some kind of backroom deal -- no trial in exchange for supporting the New Deal?

Here's an excellent overview of Gen. Smedley Butler and his "TIME".

Franklin Delano Roosevelt vs. the Banks:
Morgan's Fascist Plot, and How It Was Defeated
Part IV

by L. Wolfe
Printed in The American Almanac, July 25, 1994

EXCERPT...

Plotters Lay Low

Clark, however, was instructed to lay low in Europe. He communicated to the committee that he was delayed for ``business reasons.'' His lawyer, Christmas, was told to return, but to delay his European departure until close to the end of the year, while they maneuvered to kill the investigation on this side of the Atlantic.
The plotters also ordered an intensification of the ridicule of General Butler. The vehicle chosen was Time magazine, the Luce interests' mass circulation ``current events'' rag.

Under the headline ``Plot Without Plotters,'' the Dec. 3 Time ran an artfully crafted parody of Butler's testimony as its lead article. It opens with an account of Butler, astride a ``white horse,'' assembling 500,000 veterans at a CCC camp in Elkridge, Maryland and asking them to follow him on a march down Route 1 to Washington; they are followed by a munitions train, supplied by Du Pont and Remington Arms. It describes Butler as trailed in the leadership by several commanders of the American Legion, and General Hugh Johnson; in the back, in a limousine, are J.P. Morgan and Thomas Lamont.

After mocking other details of the plot, Time wrote ``Such was the nightmarish page of future United States history pictured last week in Manhattan by General Butler himself to the Special House Committee investigating un-American activities. No military officer of the United States since the late tempestuous George Custer has succeeded in floundering in so much hot water as Smedley Darlington Butler.''

What follows is a string of denials from the various ``participants'' in the plot and an attack on the committee for taking Butler seriously: ``Thanking their lucky stars for having such sure-fire publicity dropped in their laps, Reps. McCormack and Dickstein began calling witnesses to expose the `plot.' But there did not seem to be any plotters.... Though most of the country was laughing at the latest Butler story, the special House Committee declined to join in the merriment.... `From present indications,' said the publicity loving New York Representative , `General Butler has the evidence....'|''

Three pictures accompany the article. One makes Butler look a bit daft, with his finger in one ear, and is labelled ``He was deaf to dicatatorship''; a second shows a genial J.P. Morgan, Jr., and is captioned: ``Moonshine provided the amusement.'' Finally, there is a picture of a uniformed Col. Grayson Mallet-Prevost Murphy, looking every bit the suave patrician, with a caption, quoting him on the plot, ``A Fantasy.''

Interviewed 27 years later by author Jules Archer, the still-feisty McCormack commented: ``Time has always been about as filthy a publication as ever existed. I've said it publicly many times. The truth gets no coverage at all....''

The Time article and similar coverage in the Morgan-allied press only provoked a national outrage. The plotters were now caught in a backlash of the same populism that they had tried to manipulate for their fascist purposes.

CONTINUED...

http://american_almanac.tripod.com/morgan4.htm

Thank you for caring, AllentownJake!

[emilyg]

25. I'm more interested in who

is going to get us out of this mess.

[Techn0Girl]

33. Amen !

[MissDeeds]

45. +1

We can point fingers at history, but that doesn't do much for us now. We need leaders who can get us out of this.

[Octafish]

46. Look here, my Friend...

Whether it's online or through the grape vine, if each of us spreads the word to a few friends,
and each of them gives the heads-up to a few other friends, sooner, rather than later,
most everyone will know who's who and what's what.

We can't count on the media to tell the truth, even though a free press is the only business mentioned by name in the Constitution.

Perhaps a brave Democrat will stand up and say: "No more lies. No more wars. No more warmongering. Here's what's up and what we need to do about it..."

Unfortunately, those who have in the past have drawn fire and paid for their beliefs
with their careers, like Frank Church, and lives, like Robert F. Kennedy.

[Blue_In_AK]

27. K&R

[Octafish]

47. Prescott Bush Stole Geronimo's Bones -- CNN

Here 'tis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq5CP2iFmXk (sorry, this embed stuff is beyond me...)

Heartbreaking in so many ways...

60 Minutes has a decent report, too.

Thank you, Blue_In_AK!

[Blue_In_AK]

28. K&R

[Octafish]

48. A Nazi in the (pocket) is worth four in the Bush (family)

William Bowles penned an excellent summation:

A Nazi in the (pocket) is worth four in the Bush (family)

What is interesting about the history of the Bush family are the connections; Avril Harriman, Allen Dulles, the Rockefellers (the start of the oil connection), James Baker III, Gulf Oil, Pennzoil, Osama bin Laden…on and on it goes.

A lapse of memory?

By William Bowles

05/07/03: (Information Clearing House) It’s as well to remember that the Web never forgets, at least the US pres should take note of this fact and be careful of his utterances and how they can come back to haunt him. In fact four generations of Bush family history and too many skeletons in too many closets to count are to be found on the Web.

And given all the ‘pullpit pounding’ (more of which below) by ol’ Duyba and his minions, over the dubious moral character of Saddam and his cronies, much of which has underpinned the justification for the invasion and occupation of Iraq, it’s as well to compare the two sets of rogues. Not surprisingly, there’s little to choose between the two except that, in the case of the Bush gang, they have a ‘pedigree’ in perfidy which extends back almost a century and four generations that makes Saddam look positively angelic by comparison.

Prescott Bush – setting a family example

In a previous piece (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3243.htm) a quote I used mentioned Prescott Bush the present pres’s granpa (http://www.americanpolitics.com/20030210Koop.html) so I decided to do a little researching to see what other dirty little secrets the Bush family have hidden in the dark recesses of the WWW and lo and behold, there’s a load of stuff out there (7,630 links to be precise, according to good ol’ google just on granpa Prescott Bush).

CONTINUED...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3255.htm

Please know I don't hate Prescott Bush or his descendants. The thing is we need for the truth to be known in order to change the course the nation is on.

I really appreciate you caring, my Friend.
I really appreciate you caring, my Friend.

[Cleita]

29. K&R

Everyone needs to know.

[MinM]

34. K&R

[Hubert Flottz]

35. K&R

[Blue Owl]

37. President Obama, DO NOT CARRY THEIR TORCH.

Do not escalate their wars.

Do not further their corrupt ends.

Bu$hCo is poison. Bu$hCo is toxic. Bu$hCo is criminal.

There is no honor in Bu$hCo, only greed.

[The_Commonist]

38. And that family just keeps getting...

...dumber and dumber each generation.
I really wish they would all just disappear from the face of the earth.

[Oldtimeralso]

39. K & R and proud to help the truth to be revealed. n/t

[Mithreal]

41. Big K&R Phucking Bush Crime Family

[OnyxCollie]

42. "We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace-

business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering. They had begun to consider the Government of the Unites States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob. --President Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1936

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together." -- President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

"let's put it this way: Money trumps peace, sometimes." -pResident George W. Bush, 2007

K&R.

[KansDem]

43. K&R!

I feel like taking a shower whenever there's a discussion of the Bush Family...

[Fearless]

49. I'm more worried about the powers that be that keep us there.

We can sort out the rest later.

[Mithreal]

52. The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes.

Felix Frankfurter - Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court

The Bush family is part of the "powers that be".

[Mithreal]

50. President Dwight Eisenhower November 8, 1954

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/ike.asp

[Joe the Liberal]

51. k&r truly evil scum.......

and history repeats itself over (George HW Bush) and over (George W Bush) again.

[varelse]

54. Ah, those good old fashioned family values

:crazy:

Thanks - recommended.

[winyanstaz]

58. K & R,,,,,,yes and between the Bushes...how many have died?

[Canuckistanian]

59. One of your best, Sir

It really IS an unbroken line back to this man, isn't it?


The flirting with fascism, the banking excesses, the CIA misadventures and the sheer hatred of the middle and lower classes.

America should be eternally cursing anyone with the name Bush, not inviting them to speak as statesmen or visionaries.

:thumbsup:

[patrice]

60. NEVER!! Forget!!

[patrice]

61. TELL E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E you can get to hold still long enough to hear it

[UpInArms]

63. for the good of this country, these people need to be investigated,

indicted and imprisoned.

[tomm2thumbs]

64. Thurston Howell the 1st - 'Lovey... bring me my polo jacket'

No wonder he was late to everything - he thought it was just a wristband.

[unkachuck]

65. and this is the system we fight and die for....sort of makes you feel used....n/t

[Ken Burch]

66. That photo makes it look like he's thinking

"Damn...how do I make SURE the Catholics and Jews don't start moving to Kennebunkport?"

[EFerrari]

69. Kick

[dysfunctional press]

70. people who wear their watches like that should be summarily lined up and shot.

bugs the piss outta me...

[OnyxCollie]

72. We know.

That's why we do it.:hi: