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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 05:56 AM
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Glenn Greenwald: Why don't the powerful get grilled like this?
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/12/09/maddow


Glenn Greenwald
Wednesday, Dec 9, 2009 11:10 PST
Why don't the powerful get grilled like this?
By Glenn Greenwald


Rachel Maddow today is receiving well-deserved praise for a devastating interview she conducted last night with Richard Cohen, an "ex-homosexual" therapist who is head of the "International Healing Foundation," which purportedly helps gay people become straight. Cohen's rancid slander against gay people (they're a threat to children, etc.), masquerading as "research," is being used by advocates of a proposed law in Uganda that would allow the state to execute homosexuals. The 17-minute interview is worth watching if you want to see how an extremely smart and well-prepared interrogator can absolutely destroy a guest who is brazenly spouting baseless claims and patent falsehoods (the video is also posted below).

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One can watch what Rachel did in last night's interview -- what made it so effective -- to see why this virtually never happens on, say, Sunday shows when politically powerful people who interviewed:

(1) Rachel had obviously done a substantial amount of work prior to the interview, having even read the guest's books and being able to refer to various parts of them quickly; doing real work and real reading is far too burdensome for most of our coddled, vapid media stars.

(2) Rachel, despite being unfailingly civil and polite, was obviously indifferent to whether the guest liked her. She bombarded him with questions that made him extremely uncomfortable and which conclusively proved that he was simply lying. Media stars who host political interview programs would never subject powerful people to treatment like that for fear of losing access and/or their standing in the Beltway world.

(3) Rather than treat the guest and his claims as entitled to respect and deference, Rachel explicitly pointed out when he was lying, and even more important, demanded that he accept responsibility for his conduct (she told him he has "blood on his hands" for the role he is playing in enabling Uganda's oppression, and possibly execution, of gay people). It's simply impossible to imagine a Sunday morning media star telling, say, an advocate of the Iraq War that they have "blood on their hands," or explaining that those who advocated torture are "war criminals." Words like that are disrespectful and thus strictly prohibited when journalists deal with our elites. Sunday-morning media star journalists are there to obfuscate and elevate elite crimes, not expose them and certainly not describe them as such.

(4) Rachel's guest last night was modestly smart, coy and well-prepared, and pinning him down this way was not an easy task. Rachel was able to demolish his statements only because she is extremely smart, intellectually quick and dexterous, and able to think critically on the spot. To put it as politely as possible, people like David Gregory or, say, Brian Williams and John King don't exactly have those instruments at their disposal. That deprivation is a major reason why they're selected for those positions.


Just imagine how much better things could be if our political leaders were routinely subjected to the kind of surgically probing, lie-exposing interrogation which Rachel imposed on her homosexual-converter guest. But the reasons they almost never are speak volumes about our media stars and their true function.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 05:58 AM
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1. She's the Edward Murrow of the time
and sadly even back in the 50s Murrow was a minority in his field.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 06:22 AM
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5. Rachel is the most brilliant news person since Bill Moyers
Her TV show is amazing. She and Bill Moyers certainly have this skill for finding out which stories need to be told and presenting the political science behind the stories.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 06:03 AM
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2. she is the best interviewer on cable news
hands down. Plus her show is the best thing on television IMO.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 07:24 AM
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15. Yes, she is.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 06:08 AM
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3. Rachael is probably the smartest "news" person
on the TeeVee right now. Even smarter than Keith, though if the question is about sports, Keith would nail it.

Rhodes Scholar even.

The only person that could give her a run for the money would be Jon Stewart... and he is a bit handicapped by "keeping it light" and "don't insult - too much - the guests" required by doing comedy.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 07:07 AM
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13. I had forgotten she was a Rhodes Scholar
She is an extremely smart person and yeah, she is smarter than anyone on TV. I'm glad that Olbermann didn't get insecure and remained her stalwart promoter and mentor.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 05:48 PM
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21. And a PhD. nt
Edited on Thu Dec-10-09 05:48 PM by tblue37
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 06:21 AM
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4. Because the "Sunday shows" are sponsored by Lockheed, Boeing and the banks
All of whom have "blood on their hands", except for the latter who are merely the oligarchs that keep our elected democratic government in check.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 08:32 AM
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18. Bingo!
BP, Exxon/Mobil and the rest ALL advertise on the Sunday shows. This advertising ONLY flows to the networks if the advertisers like what they see and hear. The nakedness of the quid pro quo is an awesome thing to behold.

Rachel is beyond good and her hard work everyday shows. Gregory, Matthews and the rest are not even in her league.
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 06:30 AM
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6. She would own Meet the Press
David Gregory just not up to it. Rachel always seems prepared.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 06:37 AM
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8. Didn't MTP ratings go up when Rachel was on?
I'm sure I read that somewhere.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 06:40 AM
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9. Yes, every time she makes an appearance, gregory's ratings go up. nt
Edited on Thu Dec-10-09 06:58 AM by babylonsister
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 07:08 AM
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14. Rachel owns every setting she walks into
I used to love driving home from my night job listening to her crisp, intelligence laden patter on Air America. I would come home and gush to my hubby.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 06:36 AM
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7. Rachel Maddow PhD
She's no M$Greedia hack. Rachel is the real deal.
She's the best in the business. She should be the host of Meet the Press - that would change Sunday TV forever.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 06:41 AM
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10. Why? Because Rachel was smart BEFORE she delved into broadcasting
Edited on Thu Dec-10-09 06:43 AM by SoCalDem
and it's a whole lot easier to teach a smart, clever, intellectual how to be a journalist/broadcaster/interviewer, than it is to teach a "trained" camera-hog to be smart, clever and intelligent:)

Curiosity drives smart people, and that helps them ask intelligent, probing questions. Modern journalists are taught how to "hit their mark", how to "land a gotcha question", how to rephrase the same vapid question 6 different ways, which gel holds the fly-a-way hair in a hurricane force wind, how to look interested, when the words of the guest being interviewed, are rattling around in their cranium as "blah,blah,blah,blah", while they are champing at the bit to ask the guest "how their team did" last weekend.

DC is awash in lightweight interviewers who are mostly concerned with NOT offending anyone. DC journalism is all about the access to the poli-celebutantes, so no one fears being subjected to a "hard" interview.

Rachel is not angling for an invitation to any party or junket. She probably does not even WANT to spend any "up-close & personal" time with anyone she interviews.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 07:38 AM
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16. +1
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 06:45 AM
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11. Rachel Maddow, as good as she is, will never get her hands on Bush or Cheney or Rumsfeld.
The owners of her network, General Electric, would prevent her. The incredible military expenditures under GWB have been good for defense contractors and arms manufacturers. They would never allow her to attack somebody who "butters their bread," and this anti-gay bigot is a nobody in the halls of power just like so many religious fanatic nutjobs the Republicans often use to split the electorate. They are useful idiots, expendable to the real power brokers who sit on Wall Street.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 07:05 AM
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12. She's the smartest commentator on television
Before that, she was the smartest commentator on Air America and that's no mean feat. She's a genius level intelligence and yet, she is able to mix that with humor, gentleness and great wit, unless devastation is required, as it was last night. I'm always taken aback on the occasional times that she isn't as prepared, as erudite, as magnificent as usual. I have a serious crush on that woman's brain.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 07:43 AM
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17. Most MSM talking heads....
.. are paid to forward the corporate agenda. Even if they were capable of conducting a real interview, they wouldn't do it.

I can't tell you how often I'm yelling at the TV on Sunday morning when some fuckstick guest makes a ridiculous claim my 15 year old son could destroy and the talking head says nothing or even amplifies it.

We'll never get anything fixed until we deal with the "fourth estate".

+1000 to the OP.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 09:54 AM
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19. k/r
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 05:47 PM
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20. The part about how she, unlike the primped and coiffed media stars,
does her homework is especially important.
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