Maxine Waters: She will vote against the current Senate 'compromise'

[debbierlus]

Just on Ed...

Progressive Caucus has not yet come out.

[polichick]

1. I really hope the whole caucus votes HELL NO! And next year...

...the write a single payer bill.

[FarCenter]

3. If HCR dies this year, it is dead for the Obama adminstration

Probably dead for a decade. It was from '93 until '09 last time.

[polichick]

4. Not if the people raise enough hell - what's happening in this country is shameful! nt

[Goldstein1984]

34. "Raising Hell" That's good

We need more talk about raising hell, with a lot of actual raising hell to follow.

This is actually beginning to read a little bit like the Democratic "Underground" instead of the Democratic Mainstream.

[slipslidingaway]

7. And the Dems did the same thing in '93, ignored not for profit advocates...

to try and keep the for profit insurance companies in business.

What service do they provide in the care of the sick - None!

They do serve as a vehicle for investors to earn a return on their money.

The Democrats need to work for the people, not the corporations.

Whoever heard of the PO back in 2007, not very many. Yet they were able to turn the support from a national, not for profit system favored by over half the population into support for an idea without many details.

Some will blame this on the Republicans or the Blue Dogs, but I blame those who put the profits of corporations ahead of the needs of the people.

[debbierlus]

22. I agree with you.

[slipslidingaway]

27. :))) n/t

[bvar22]

30. +1

There is no way to spin it.

The very act of taking Single Payer Off the Table exposed the LIE.
This was NEVER about Health Care Reform.

From the start, it was ALL about Enhancing the Profits of the Health Insurance Cartel, Wall Street's incestuous 1st Cousin.

[slipslidingaway]

32. Exactly, no sense trying to hide the facts. n/t

[Goldstein1984]

35. Single payer is the only real reform...

The public option, as crafted, will just force the poor to buy insurance they would already have if they could afford it.

Let it go. There will be another chance in 2010 if the people of this nation RAISE ENOUGH HELL.

The government has never given anything good to the people of this nation without them demanding it.

[WeDidIt]

16. If HCR dies this year, it's dead for a generation

And in twenty years, it'll take twice as much yelling and screaming to get a bill with half as much as the Senate bill that will be killed this year.

[debbierlus]

29. I don't agree. The health insurance companies need this bailout

They can't sustain and need this legislation.

Health care reform will be back with a vengence - give it a election cycle.

[FiveGoodMen]

5. God, that would be wonderful!

[RoyGBiv]

10. Dream that dream ...

If it dies entirely, there will be no new bill, not in the next decade at least.

[ellie]

12. There will be no new bill

Not for a long time.

[glen123098]

2. Does the current bill force you to buy health insurance?

What if you don't have enough money to buy health insurance? What happens then, Do you have to pay a fine. How does that help people out?

[Dinger]

8. *Crickets*

I hear nothing of this in the media either. Thanks for mentioning it.

[slipslidingaway]

13. Amazing, that part is always left out. I do not hear it in the speeches ...

in Congress.

Here is the AHIP commercial they ran in favor of HC reform.

AHIP commercial for health care reform - "If everyone is covered..."

equals mandate.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6494081&mesg_id=6494618

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R36YJl8SagU

[tomm2thumbs]

25. they should simply mandate that poor people have to be rich - OR ELSE!!

that oughta fix things.

[slipslidingaway]

26. They could raise the minimum wage in the same bill as they mandate...

people buy insurance.

[slipslidingaway]

11. Yes, but that aspect is not mentioned. The insurance companies knew...

they had to make concessions, so they agreed to cover everyone if there was a mandate to buy their product.

Not to mention they were losing customers, between the high premiums and loss of employment.

Then they knew the baby boomers would be enrolling in Medicare and they stand to lose a lot of paying customers.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

19. Does the current bill undo the monopoly?

[rucky]

36. Not even a little bit. n/t

[loyalkydem]

6. God bless her

She's my heroine.

[calico1]

9. Yes..a brave woman who does not

compromise her ideals.

[Raine]

14. Good for her

I hope others follow her lead. :thumbsup:

[Lydia Leftcoast]

15. I could go for a private plan IF AND ONLY IF the ins. companies were as regulated

as they are in Germany:

1. Non-profit with controls on what they can spend money for

2. Required to take everyone for the same price

3. No exclusions

4. Pay within a certain number of days without question

Why, they take all the fun out of being an insurance company! :sarcasm:

[NoUsername]

23. Spot on, Lydia.

That's exactly what a private health care insurance provider should be required to do.

Oh, and I would add that the coverage should be national. For example, if someone from CA drives to GA and happens to fall ill while there, they should be covered the same as they would be in CA. It's insane that you can travel between totally different countries in Europe and not have to worry about health care but in the US, you're taking a chance by crossing a state border.

No Lydia, your idea wouldn't take the fun out of being an insurance company. It would just minimize the profit. How goddamn un-American of you to even suggest something like that. ;)

[G_j]

28. +1000

[mike_c]

17. thank you, Maxine....

eom

[Individualist]

20. +1

[ProSense]

18. Kucinich may be able to support it

here.

[951-Riverside]

21. *groans*

[tomm2thumbs]

24. the blue dogs all think they are having sex, but they are really masturbating each other's egos

and the country is left with the mess

[Cleita]

31. Maxine has always voted with her heart.

I love her when I lived in LA and she was on the south side. I wasn't. Whitey that I am I lived on the west side, but I always loved what she said and I'm with her now.

[Vidar]

33. Thank you, Maxine.

[elleng]

37. She said she MAY, she hasn't seen enough info so she can't say for certain.

Lets NOT MISSTATE FACTS HERE, PLEASE.

[Smashcut]

38. Good for Maxine.

This bill in its current form is a sham.