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Politics_Guy25 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:21 PM Original message |
President Obama hailed as philosopher statesman after knocking ball out of park in Nobel speech |
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seeinfweggos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. recommended |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yeah, Palin and Gingrich loved it. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. That's what they say publically, they're painted into a corner. |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. False. They do not praise Obama for everything. Only the things that they agree with. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. You must have a short memory. |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
26. Provide a source for the claim that Gingrich opposed Clinton's bombing of Yugoslavia. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Not only Gingrich, it was all the Republicans. |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:36 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Provide a source for that claim. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
57. No. |
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semillama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. +1 |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
3. K&R, Grat speech, and doomed to be ignored by the very people here |
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Politics_Guy25 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
5. President Obama... |
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rusty fender (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
48. Yeah, he's playing wizard's chess so |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
53. Don't patronize me |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
55. I find your post disturbing |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
7. Obama doesn't speak in bumper sticker simplicity. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Yes indeed! |
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Politics_Guy25 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. And also the problems that we're having on HCR, financial reform, climate change |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
8. No, he's going to totally suck until he turns into Dennis Kucinich |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. ROTFLMAO! Oh, and ... +1 |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
13. Then why are you posting a description/rationale for the speech, instead of the speech? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Because it's more important that people be told how wonderful President McDreamy is. |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. or maybe the poster just figures on a Dem message board |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:34 AM Original message |
Yes, it would be good to discuss the speech, not just an article telling us what to think about it. |
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Politics_Guy25 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Honestly, the thought never occurred to me |
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Shanti Mama (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:11 AM Response to Reply #13 |
36. Why do people have to find fault with EVERYTHING. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:32 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. The same reason you need to |
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Shanti Mama (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. In what way was I not polite? |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
65. Yep |
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Shanti Mama (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 04:49 AM Response to Reply #65 |
70. You are off the charts of some measurement, not sure what. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Maybe |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
14. As someone who has no difficulty with the abstract, the philosophical |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:46 PM Original message |
Characterizing this conflict as imperialism is not profound. |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
31. The war was planned before nineeleven |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Doesn't Obama write most of his own speeches? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I don't know. I know that during the campaign he did write |
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Politics_Guy25 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I understand your point |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
16. but really- how much longer does the u.s. get to take credit for defeating hitler in ww2..? |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. k - are you serious? do you really think that was all the |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. People are great at glomming onto single words or phrases in these, aren't they? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. That speech and this speech both sound as though they were written |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. yes, because i mentioned one line of the speech, obviously i think that's all it's about... |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
41. Because they did. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
19. I just caught part of it and I was entranced -- Excellent speech (I guess they |
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tan guera (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #19 |
28. The audience was listening |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 05:54 AM Response to Reply #28 |
43. And you actualy believe him? n/t |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. What do you care what I do or don't believe? Don't use me to get your jabs in, please. nt |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 04:34 AM Response to Reply #60 |
69. i replied to tan guera who seemed to put more faith in Rove's words |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Oh -- I'm so sorry! I was still in my knee-jerk reaction-to-tan guera mode -- |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
59. Why would I care what Rove says? Why would you? And... |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-10-09 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
21. K&R - it was an incredible speech. n/t |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
32. nice speech from a president that wages wars with the blood of a bankrupt nation. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
33. KnR, Politics Guy. It's a distinct pleasure to read your thoughtful post... |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
35. Yeah, Endless War For No Apparent Reason!!! |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
37. As the Justice Department defends the actions of John Yoo......... |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
39. In a nutshell - "war is good for peace" // he should not have accepted, imho |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
40. The ideals of liberty, self-determination, equality and the rule of law have haltingly advanced. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 03:20 AM Response to Original message |
42. Accepting peace prize, Obama makes case for unending war |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
44. Outstanding speech. I agree it ranks second only to the Phila. speech. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
45. Funny, but I heard more people say the exact opposite of your OP. |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
46. Yes, it was a well-written speech, and the man... |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
49. Neo liberal philosopher statesman. nt |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
50. A "Pro-Obama" thread on DU? Well.. that deserves an Un-Rec right there... |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. Not everyone |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
51. Time and time again... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
52. The speech was fine. It's his Afghanistan policy I find lacking. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. That's par for the course. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
56. "The Holy Roman Empire," quipped Voltaire, was "neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire" |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
61. I listened to the entire speech on NPR last night |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
63. Oh, great, another glowing report about another beautiful speech. You know, during the |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. She was right because he rode that speech to the WH. I read the Peace Prize speech |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
64. K&R |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
66. The conservatives are absolutely giddy over his speech. Nuff said nt |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-11-09 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
68. I'm tired of great speeches. I voted for change, not talk. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
71. Excuse if I find the speech a little gauche, |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. How exactly was this war illegal? |
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midnight armadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-12-09 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
72. I'd trade 100 philosophical speeches... |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-13-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Exactly |
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