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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:01 PM
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Uygur: We all think Sarah Palin is stupid because she is in fact stupid!
From time to time, I'll get into a debate with a right-winger about whether Sarah Palin is actually stupid or if liberals are just hopelessly biased against her. They claim this bias comes from the fact that liberals are scared of her electability, her charm, her looks, her femininity, her Christianity, her ability connect to the common man and her overall wonderfulness. So, the theory is that we have all collectively decided that she is the best Republican candidate in some secret liberal meeting and are conspiring against her because we are afraid of how brilliant and electable she really is.

Now, there are a couple of problems with this theory. There are no opinion leaders on the left with Rush Limbaugh-like authority who can command all other progressives to think the same thing and use the same arguments against one person. In other words, , not because some liberal cabal told us to think that.

How come we don't call Newt Gingrich stupid? Or Dick Cheney or Kay Bailey Hutchinson or Elizabeth Dole or Dennis Hastert? And the list goes on and on of heinous and deplorable right-wingers who are not stupid. We don't make those charges against those people, because as much as we might not agree with them or like them, we know that they are not dullards. They're all clever in their own way. Mitt Romney is greasy, Michael Steele is a clown and Tom DeLay is dirty, but we don't go after their mental acuity like we do with Sarah Palin because they're not as dumb as her (not even Steele).

So, finally we get to the evidence. I thought I'd just do it here and be done with it. Then I can just point people to this post from now on and end this senseless argument...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/the-irrefutable-stupidity_b_382213.html


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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:04 PM
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1. Spot-on. We call her stupid, because that's her defining characteristic.
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 01:04 PM by TwilightGardener
To pretend she's not stupid would be fundamentally dishonest.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:06 PM
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2. Even my mom thinks she is stupid, and she used to like her (god knows why, but still.)
Now she can't stand her.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:06 PM
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3. Actually I do consider Dick Cheney stupid....n/t
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:07 PM
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6. Yep. Took his eye of the prize in Afghanistan. nt
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:16 PM
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12. I dunno, I think his defining characteristic is "evil", not "stupid"
now, the objectively evaluated intelligence of the short-sighted uber-capitalist/corporatist/oligarchic agenda that he pursues is another question...
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:53 PM
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Agreed
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:53 PM
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24. Agreed
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99 Percent Sure Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 02:55 PM
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22. Because Cheney ain't the brightest bulb in the chandalier. After all, he flunked
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 03:04 PM by 99 Percent Sure
out of Yale and never completed studies for a post-grad degree.

It is possible for him to be evil and stupid. Shrub was, and a drunk and a cokehead to boot.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:07 PM
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4. The DUers who need to read that article won't. K/R for the O'Reilly clip alone.
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 01:07 PM by blondeatlast
"What was that answer?" INDEED.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:51 PM
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18. Here it is in all its stupidity for those that don't have time to read the entire article:
Bill O'Reilly: Let me be very bold and fresh again, do you believe that you are smart enough, incisive enough, intellectual enough to handle the most powerful job in the world?

Sarah Palin: I believe that I am because I have common sense and I have I believe the values that I think are reflective of so many other American values, and I believe that what Americans are seeking is not the elitism, the uhm, the ah, a kind of spineless, spinelessness that perhaps is made up for that with some kind of elite, Ivy league education and, and a fat resume that is based on anything but hard work and private sector, free enterprise principles. Americans are could be seeking something like that in positive change in their leadership, I'm not saying that that has to be me.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:07 PM
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5. She doesn't speak very well
and appears not to have much intelligence?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:08 PM
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7. Yep, except Tom Delay is also stupid at a Palin level.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:21 PM
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14. DeLay has a certain vulpine craftyness
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 01:21 PM by FarCenter
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:08 PM
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8. Not stupid -- she probably has a 90 IQ, coupled with a willful ignorance
Which makes her so endearing to the American public.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:11 PM
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9. Cenk had some guy on last night who disputed Sarah's status as a moron
let me tell you it was agonizing. He had an answer for all of our leaping to conclusions about her stupidity--for example it's not that she had no clue what the hell the Bush Doctrine was, she just wondered how Charley Gibson wanted her to approach her tight and encyclopedic knowledge of it "In what sense, Charley?" i.e., she wondered whether he meant its place in world and military history or its socio-economic effect on the countries involved. How dare we leap to the conclusion that she had no clue and was just stalling.

Like that. For an hour. Cenk was wonderpated at this guy's density. It was awesome and complete.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:13 PM
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10. And every time her name is reprinted
an angel gets it's wings ripped off by a moose in a helicopter.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:15 PM
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11. Oh, is this that Cenk Uygur guy?
I had hoped they'd just gone to Central Asia and asked some random Uygur person.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 03:00 PM
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23. Even the Uighur herdsman sitting around campfires on the steppes of Asia
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 03:11 PM by Ikonoklast
know that Sarah Palin is stupid.

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dem mba Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:16 PM
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13. Karl Rove, Cheney, Ben Stein, Dennis Miller
and many others are all "intelligent" in the conventional way. However, there are different types of intelligence, right? Book smarts vs street smarts, spatial recognition, etc etc http://skyview.vansd.org/lschmidt/Projects/The%20Nine%20Types%20of%20Intelligence.htm) "> 9 types of intelligence

But they are most definitely incorrect in their world view, to say the least. Saying their stupid is kind of a cop-out. They're "smart", but they've drawn the wrong conclusions about the most important subjects possible.

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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:32 PM
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15. You are talking about values, not intelligence.
Intelligence can be used to serve the justification of any system of values.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:45 PM
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16. Or they could be lying
about their world view in an attempt to fool us into giving them money and power.
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99 Percent Sure Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:48 PM
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17. This morning, with complete solemnity, George Stephanoupholis began his piece on The Obama Doctrine
from the president's Nobel Peace prize speech by saying that She-Who-Shoots-Wolves-from-Helicopters approved of President O's speech. George was dead-bang serious, no pun intended. Broadcast media treat her as if she is the second coming of Shrub or Wicked Reagan: they exalt her although she is dumb as a sack of hair.

Yes, indeed, we are living in a parallel universe.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 02:31 PM
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19. The unfortunate truth is that you don't have to be "smart" to win a Presidential election...
you just have to get enough votes in the right places. (By one means or another.)

There is no IQ test you have to pass. In fact, intelligence may be a handicap.

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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 02:34 PM
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20. Cheney is despised here more than Palin and very few seem to think he is stupid
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 02:37 PM by mitchum
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 02:43 PM
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21. She knows not, and she knows not that she knows not.
The ultimate in cluelessness, confident that she is totally clueful.
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