So tell me - when Communism fails - Capitalism replaces it

[Taverner]

But when Capitalism fails, Capitalism once again replaces it

How is this right?

[JVS]

1. FEUDALISM NOW! THIS SOCIAL EXPERIMENT HAS FAILED

[baldguy]

12. Feudalism -> Capitalism -> Communism ->

Feudalism?

[JVS]

13. Feudalism -> Capitalism -> Communism

If one level fails, go to preceding level. Isn't that what we learned in the early 1990's?

[timeforpeace]

2. It's the default system due to human nature ie competitiveness, killer instinct, survival instincts.

At least IMO. The other systems require changing human nature to succeed.

[Ozymanithrax]

3. Our economy is more Corporatism than free market capitalism.

I would say that Capitalism died sometime in the early 70's and was replaced with Corporatism.

[RKP5637]

8. +1, n/t

[timeforpeace]

9. Corporations more closely resemble government systems than free market systems.

[Libertas1776]

4. When Communism "failed" in Russia

it got replaced with oligarchism.

[Taverner]

5. Yes, a form of Capitalism

As is monopolism

[amborin]

7. there was only state capitalism in Russia, never communism

[Libertas1776]

10. True enough,

I should have said "Communism" since what we label as being the economic system in the USSR was never really that.

[Odin2005]

6. Don't confuse the market and free enterprise with Capitalism.

The former 2 can exist without the parasitic investor class that defines Capitalism.

[readmoreoften]

11. But nobody has ever explained exactly how that would work. It's not possible.

Keynesian economics exists to prop up capitalism by either (a) using government funds to keep the working class at a minimum of degradation, so they can continue to exist as a market or (b) pouring government funds into military projects to keep the economy floating and the market expanding into new territories.

What, precisely, would keep the richest of the rich--and most of those coming from old money--from continuing to own the government? "The Market" and "Free Enterprise" are synonymous with Capital. Something like a barter economy would be the only possible way to imagine a "market" without capital.

And even if it could work in theory, you would need a revolution to overthrow the parasites anyway. They aren't going to go peacefully.

[Odin2005]

14. A market economy based on co-ops isn't Capitalist.

Read up on the huge Basque conglomerate co-op Mondragon Corp. for how such co-ops would work.

[Taverner]

16. Both of you are right. Stop fighting!

[Speck Tater]

15. By the time Capitalism is done failing, tribal hunting and gathering will replace it. nt