So is the government actually hiring?

[TwixVoy]

I have read posts here on DU by some who say the gov is hiring like crazy.

I just put in 4 applications for city level jobs, 1 for county level, and 1 federal job.

I have the most hope for the 4 city level jobs.... primarily because I put in for 1 that is WELL BELOW my experience level, 2 that are equal to my experience level, and 1 that is slightly above. The online application system says that one of my applications is in "phase 2 screening" and the other is "under review". The others are just "received".

Does anyone know how long it usually takes for city level government to call for an interview? I know it will of course vary by city, but for anyone who has held city level gov jobs what is the average in your experience? I am in one of the largest major cities in the US if that matters.

[bridgit]

1. Tom Sullivan's meme du jour is that the federal government out-strips equivalant...

private sector jobs by a +factor of between $30-35,000 - his/soon to be their new rant will be that the Obama Admin is *forcing* wages down for (a)americans read here: rampant no-bid crony capitalists that care much less for America than they are able to admit; and that thus he is furthering his goal of a socialist America

Billions in bush tax cut give aways, fair child treatments, corporate person-hood, price gouging, war contracts the whole nine it does not matter - the private sector is, by & large and certainly at that level: unable to *create* any full time employed jobs

Obama was right. The federal gov has the ability to do so and to the extent they are they are creating jobs, and it's pissing reblicans off not like they need any incentive

A republicans idea of 'a job' is deep frying seasonal corn dogs and Oreo' at a state fair part time, only when republicans get serious should they be taken seriously at all

[C_Lawyer09]

2. I'm curious what you think of this article

In my mind artificial hiring perpetuates our current problem, in part because the consequences are unpredictable and obfuscated.

http://mises.org/daily/3907

This article is from the Mises website, libertarian in nature, and based in the Austrian school of economics, versus more traditional Keynesian policy. I post this, because it seems the illusion of a free market economy is part of the current problem. Cash for clunkers cost 22-24k per vehicle to administer. As China is holding more and more of our paper, I'm not positive about the ability of the govt. to pull our jobs out of the drink based on job programs.

[bridgit]

3. Libertarianism may be 'a key' for some, but it is not a keyed lock it's a combination...

Gotta love Austria though, no ostentatious exceptional-ism there I'm sure - here, from a blog in the link submitted as to Must See Movies,

"Wall-E? Is that a joke? That was a an eco-propaganda, anti-capitalist movie"
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_e-mPA_6ZQyg/RfenRZcD54I/AAAAAAAAAo8/OZvgNpz8yNg/s400/normal_Fairy+Tale+Fantasy,+Neuschwanstein+Castle,+Bavaria,+Germany.jpg

To not understand the interconnectivity of the world's eco system *with* it's econo system, and to further be willing to throw all that away for tax-free profits - even if in the event one does understand - is imo a mis-read of this world's better positioning and of the first magnitude - where "first", here, is a re-codification of monarchy & serfs into a callousness where many other enablers are able to be understood as preener's, sucker-fish swimming along in pursuit of what has been represented as: Royal Ostentatious Exceptional-ism by any other name than what it is, handed down to man as the manna of a specious ruling elite in the form of tax free marketplace', commerce and exchange for all...if wishes were fishes, cause rather decidedly not when your undisclosed location/poster boy is Grover Norquist

Capitalism and it's tax system (some parts most assuredly so) is simply not special enough for some. All those econo-nobles standing in line at the PO waiting for 1099's and extension filings. How's that going to work? I do think Democracy is a great idea, and I do think America should try it sometime - like free market capitalism. And as an IC hooking up contracts in a very fluid world I have had my toes many times gripped tight over the cliff's edge, spitty little finger stuck into a windless night and leapt off...


And I'm still here to submit it is not a keyed lock but a combination in a world where Capitalism is able to be seen by some as just another word for the freedom they never had: *enter* Libertarianism, see...it has a part of 'liberty' right in it and Liberty is a Lofty Poetry and that has been a tide that raised some boats

Libertarianism, however, and in my further opinion perhaps even more freedom ill in spite. It quite nearly has to be thus by default as it attempts to tie & justify every human virtue every human kindness, every noble thought every noble pursuit down to no taxes/'0'/none!

A better idea for other reasons entirely; but no public, Libertarian war funding only a keen profiteering of it's spoils via the derivative blood, sweat, tears & tax codes of others. No expenditures for what is not deemed justifiable and so no expenditures are, ultimately, an addendum to the tax code stating: no societal responsibility either for they believing they are entitled and above all others: to some contiguous restful nights in a Fairy Castle

They are less 'artificial hiring practices' when seen as a much needed re-staffing of willfully-bush-admin-depleted oversight & regulatory apparatus' vital to the maintenance of America's Brand as an innovative force in the world - and that includes corporate war. By improving upon America's Brand after years of wanton republican neglect and Libertarian incursion; the business environment is improved. A product of that occurrence alone seems to me, is that real jobs are to follow as a result of repairing the socio-economic neglect of Libertarian-republicanism which is why part of why the RW (and it does include Libertarians) is framing the matter in these ways: 'artificial hiring practices', it'll take real jobs to fix what they have broken

The up & downside to that is that real people need to fill them. And yes I know, if you blow your nose you're a real person; but that's not where we're going that's not where we've been. Real people able to enhance the interconnectivity, the recombinant/re-combined nature of whole socio-organic systems and not just the tax exempt edicts heard echoing through the Alps

The big picture I leave for others :)