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discocrisco01 Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 01:15 PM
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Newt Think Liberals Bring Detroit On Detroit
Edited on Sat Dec-12-09 01:16 PM by discocrisco01
I am watching a video on Fox News.

Here is some BS from the speech

"Warning the 14th District Republicans Mr. Gingrich said, "The other side has no answers. The other side is not going to improve anything. And if we are not careful the other side is going to turn the whole country into Detroit. Then we will all be uneducated, we will all be poor, and we will all live in dangerous places."

Although Mr. Gingrich praised President Obama's Nobel lecture on a "Just War", he took exception to the climate treaty talks in Copenhagen. "It is going to be a disaster, and we should be committed to not implementing Copenhagen in its current form."

Guess what Newt, you are the one with no solution. It is people with your policies that got in this mess. It is your policies that have messed up Detriot the mess than it is.

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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 01:17 PM
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1. And exactly what are you trying to improve, Newt?
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 01:26 PM
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2. No, Detroit City Council brought (and is still bringing) Detroit on Detroit
Who gives a rat's *** about Gingrich, why does he get shoved in our faces? Why some here give him the time of day mystifies me.


Anyway, what's the latest on that crook Kilpatrick?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 01:48 PM
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6. He moved to Texas with the rest of the BFEE criminals
I find your remarks in regards to Detroit offensive, especially since your location isn't disclosed. I can't imagine your community being any better.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 02:33 PM
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13. Let's kiss and make up,
in the meantime you can have your crooks back ;)
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 01:39 PM
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3. the danger that people perceive in Detroit, IMO is much over rated
Edited on Sat Dec-12-09 01:51 PM by notadmblnd
I've spent a lot of my time in Detroit over my 50 years and I've never been shot, robbed, raped or carjacked. In fact, I was in the city just yesterday. I'm not saying crime doesn't happen, but it happens everywhere. Newt is wrong, what has happened to Detroit is abandonment by the Republicans (urban flight) because of their fear of minorities, greed and corruption. What has happened to Detroit will continue to happen elsewhere as long as those elements remain in place.

Wasn't Washington DC the murder capital of the world for a while? Yeah I thought so.

This year, only Chicago rivals DC as the murder capital of the world. Both cities have a ban on guns if recall, so I would say that it's quite a feat. The greed, the corruption, see Newtie.....
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 01:58 PM
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7. Well, some have said that Detroit never really recovered from
Edited on Sat Dec-12-09 01:59 PM by Fire1
the '67 riots. I don't think that's true. I think Coleman Young played a huge role in Detroit's downward spiral. As much as I liked and admired him as a shrewed politician, he bit off his nose to spite his face and Detroit hasn't been the same but got even worse after Young passed. People want to blame Kilpatrick and indeed, he picked the carcus clean but it didn't have far to go before hitting the bottom.

Every time I go there I feel so sad, remembering what was once a great city. Fond memories in that city are everywhere for me and many others.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 02:20 PM
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9. He was corrupt though. I gues it happens to all politicians no matter how nobel their intentions are
Edited on Sat Dec-12-09 02:25 PM by notadmblnd
in the beginning.

I actually saw improvement in Detroit wile Dennis Archer was mayor. I worked in the city back before he was elected. I remember trying to drive down W. Grand Blvd to get to the office through the un-plowed roads. After Archer was elected, the roads were once again cleaned. Mayor Archer also implemented a program to eliminate blighted housing. Of course Clinton was president too, so more Federal bones were thrown to Detroit during those years. But what I saw from the people I worked with that lived in the city, thye were investing in it themselves.

I have a very good friend that still lives in the city. I've tried to talk her and her family in leaving. It's expensive to live there unless you know how to be poor. But alas, she's a bleeding heart liberal and believes she can save the city single handed. However, these aren't the people that get the recognition, these people who should have leadership positions in the city are instead invisible while the lawyers and successful (corrupt) business leaders rape the city.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 04:03 PM
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11. Yes, during the Archer administration, Detroit looked like it
had a chance to come back. I even stayed during that time, convinced that Archer was doing a great job and he did. But for many, he wasn't "black" enough and the rest is history.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 01:40 PM
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4. No, Free Market Capitalism destroyed Detroit. And Cleveland. And Buffalo.
Newt is full of shit as always.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 01:43 PM
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5. Well people like he and bush and the republicans in congress
had it well on it's way. What with outsourcing all the jobs to foreign countries. So now it is the democrats fault. Those not in power and a minority. Hmmm that's how things work correct.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 02:01 PM
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8. Nothing he claims about Detroit is true
I expect he's using 'Detroit' as a racist codeword. I see nothing in the context of those words to indicate otherwise.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 02:34 PM
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10. Nothing like fear and smear plus dodging the issues and his participation to change hearts and minds
What a loser. He's asleep and blind to the harmm he and his kind do. Happy karma. Enjoy the rest of your incarnation. There's no guarantee the next one will be human.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 04:16 PM
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12. Newt and his ilk are why Detroit is in the shape it is.
Ignorance, racism and the collapse of American manufacturing led to Detroit being Detroit -- ill education, systemic poverty, unsafe neighborhoods. Odd, these three have all been exacerbated to the point of systemization by conservative fiscal policies.

We have the means, but not the leadership. "We have more will than wallet." Who said that?

Thanks for caring, discocrisco01. Full Disclosure: I live in metro Detroit, my 'burb being next to the City.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 02:38 PM
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14. is newt going to give the unemployed tax cuts? that's all they've ever had.
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