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Fading Captain Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:36 PM
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We can Save Michigan
New DU advertisement:
"We can save Michigan
Lower taxes. Decreased spending. Help small business thrive.
www.SBAM.org"

Perfect Republican talking points.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:39 PM
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1. It was an ad from a small business group
Basically, it's more evidence that the revenue problem may be something business is deliberately coordinating in order to force states to implement Reaganite policies whether or not the people voted for them. It's a kind of capital strike, really.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 09:59 PM
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6. Those Small Business holding cash will be left in the dust
and trying to play catch-up soon enough
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 10:09 PM
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8. The word "Small Business" in the title might also be just a name
This sounds like it has "corporate front" written all over it.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:40 PM
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2. I thought it meant to fire Rodriguez eom
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lordcommander Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:47 PM
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4. lol eom
:spray:
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:41 PM
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3. There was a great one on the DU front page yesterday.
Something about how, under "government-run healthcare," lines at the doctor's office would be as long as lines at the DMV. I know it's just Google AdSense picking ads that match some aspects of the site's content, but it would be nice if all the right-wing crap could somehow be filtered.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 09:49 PM
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5. We can save Michigan or we can save Republicans. We can't do both.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 10:01 PM
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7. Ain't that the truth!
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 10:10 PM
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9. Lowering taxes has destroyed the American economy and crushed the value of our dollar.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 10:35 PM
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10. I really have to laugh about taxes in Michigan
I moved from there a few years back, to Ohio. Taxes are already low in Michigan, yet they bitch all the time. The state income tax is 3.9% and sales tax is 6%. There was no state income tax on my pension when I lived there. There is here and there is a graduated income tax up to about 8%. In northern Ohio I have not found one dirt road. All the secondary road in Michigan are dirt or worse. Pot holes up the pazutie too.
I have no problem with the higher taxes here. Great roads, you see cops on the highway all the time, better schools. The first few times I went to the DMV, I never waited in line. In Michigan the minimum times was 4 hours or more. Here, i walk out with my new license and titles. There they'd mail em to you in a month or so. I remember 30 years ago when Michigan got sold on "no-fault" insurance, it'll save us all so much more money. My insurance with State Farm dropped $400/year here in a fault state. Plates are about $34/car and $54/truck, a third what it was there. Of course everyone loves to bitch about taxes, but it is nothing like in Michigan.
Engler spent all of the rainy day fund and then dropped taxes too. Grandholm was left with the same deal Obama was. Clean up.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 10:42 PM
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11. State Rep Alma Wheeler Smith...
Edited on Sat Dec-12-09 10:44 PM by roamer65
is proposing a graduated income tax system for MI. It is high time we got rid of the flat rate. Michigan shows that flat rate income tax systems don't work.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:25 AM
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12. Taxes are low for some in Michigan, specifically business. The road taxes are also low for business.
Even though Michigan takes in tons of trucking from surrounding states and Canada, Michigan republicans do nothing to change the funding ratio. I agree about the whole car insurance thing. Way too much money in Michigan. But if you ask the insurance co. they always have a rationale: weather, credit, people out of work, the air....

Engler and his old republican cronies in the Senate still resist taxes in Michigan. Engler hasn't really left. He's like Reagan. Lousy, dead or politically dead, but still drawing a political pension in the minds of the people who think all we have to do is levy "fees".

As far as the Sec. of State offices go, I haven't had problems with service in non metropolitan areas. "Fees" for vehicles are high. But hey, go to Kansas where you pay for Toll roads just for having a car and it ain't cheap.
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