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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 09:55 AM
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Is it our turn yet?
The military complex got theirs from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. The oil people got theirs when gas was $4+ per gallon. The bankers and wall street got theirs through the bail-out and high rates on credit cards. The insurance companies got theirs through no anti-trust laws and over-charging. The auto companies got theirs through the bail-out and the cash for clunkers program.

Just when the fuck does congress intend to give the American citizens a break? Our leaders are eager to give our money to all kinds of special interests because they get their big buck campaign donations to get re-elected and they get to keep their cushy lifestyle.

Now that HCR is on the table, our leaders seem to think we, the people who actually pay for everything, don't deserve the right to affordable medical care, and in some cases, life itself!

Were it up to me, we would not give another dime to any military based company, any insurance company, any oil company, any bank, or any auto maker.

THIS SHIT HAS GOT TO STOP! WE, THE PEOPLE, ARE GETTING FUCKED ROYALLY!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 09:56 AM
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1. No sit down, shut up and quit whining.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 09:56 AM
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2. How can it be your turn when you are not even in the game?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 09:59 AM
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3. +1
We aren't "in" the game; we are the game.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:34 AM
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9. Takes two to tango
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:34 AM
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13. uh, what?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:50 AM
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11. You would think, eh?
But, not so much, apparently.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:34 AM
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14. uh, what?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:41 PM
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17. We don't seem to be the game at all
We seem to be the problem that the powers that be would like to neutralize.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 01:43 PM
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18. game as in prey?
:(
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:00 AM
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4. And even the "affordable" medical care they claim to give us
isn't all that affordable.

The current House and Senate bills are patched together monstrosity full of favors to the insurance companies, written to appease them, and to ensure that their profits continue to flow in. (I'm sure they have attorneys working full time on the loopholes, even as the Congresscritters and Senators are "too busy" to read the whole bill.)

I knew that we were screwed and that I'd better hang on to my pathetic, useless insurance because it looks as if anything I'd be eligible for in the bill would be even more expensive.

I knew that we were screwed when /single payer/national health service/totally regulated and straitjacketed private insurance/ models, all three of which work in other countries around the world, were taken off the table.

We need to face facts. We are speeding head-long into corporate fascism.

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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:02 AM
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5. "We are speeding head-long into corporate fascism."
Look around. It appears we are already there.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 12:05 PM
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16. Yep
We just ran thru another stop sign and we are now in the belly of the beast.

The common people get thrown in jail for just about anything. But a corporation that pollutes, or bribes its way, or makes faulty products, or outright steals from people remains as free and loose as Cheney.

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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:31 AM
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6. Analogy
The current state of outright tyranny and taxation without representation is why America had a REVOLUTIONARY WAR in the first place!

Our current fascist corporate tyrannical government no longer even pretends to represent the people!

In terms of what modern life as a working person in America has turned in to, it turns out we are merely corporate serfs or indentured servants with cell phones and blackberries. Our lives are governed by medieval kings with absolute power, just like the old days. Only diff is our 'stuff' is better than what was available in the middle ages. They had to make due with ball in a cup type toys and our toys are state of the art electronics.

-90% Jimmy
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:31 AM
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7. Never ccoming
Just guessing
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:32 AM
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8. It's NEVER our turn..except for the part where we pay our taxes.
:(
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 10:35 AM
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10. I've got news for you: It's never comming.
The sooner you come to terms with it, the better off you'll be.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:57 AM
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15. And voting for "electable" pres candidates only gets us what the corporate interests want us to have
Fuckin' zero
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:00 AM
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12. It must be your imagination, friend.
Edited on Sun Dec-13-09 11:02 AM by chill_wind
The American public is rather satisfied. The Democratic Party is deliriously happy. (haven't you seen the latest polls??). And War is Peace! Get with the program.
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