Tony_FLADEM
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Mon Dec-14-09 10:26 AM
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What would it take to change the number required to end a filibuster from 60 to 55? |
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Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 10:26 AM by Tony_FLADEM
Would a simple majority of 51 voting to do this be sufficient? I think they need to do this.
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pinto
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Mon Dec-14-09 10:27 AM
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1. It would take 60 votes to avoid a filibuster and get to a vote. |
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And there's the rub.
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Mon Dec-14-09 10:29 AM
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3. No, invoking cloture for a rules change requires 2/3 |
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67 votes are required for cloture in any debate regarding the rules of the Senate.
It's in the rules.
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Mon Dec-14-09 10:34 AM
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5. Ah thanks. Forgot that. Yeah, it'd be a rule change. |
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Mon Dec-14-09 10:39 AM
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7. Unless you get the parliamentarian to say that it ISN'T a rule change |
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Then it only requires a simple majority to uphold the ruling.
This was essentially the "nuclear option" from a few years ago.
Then, of course, it ends up going to court over whether it really was a rule change or not.
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Earth Bound Misfit
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Mon Dec-14-09 10:34 AM
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6. That's some catch .... |
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Mon Dec-14-09 10:28 AM
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2. It takes 67 votes to invoke cloture for changing the rules of the Senate |
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Yes, a 2/3 majority is required under the rules.
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Mon Dec-14-09 10:33 AM
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4. Then what happens someday if 55 Rethug Senators vote to privatize Social Security? |
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Or to end Medicare?
We wouldn't be able to filibuster them.
If the number is too low, laws would be flip-flopping back and forth with every new Senate.
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Mon Dec-14-09 11:16 AM
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8. A very good point, indeed. That's essentially why the |
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cloture rule is in place. There have been many times when it has been a very good thing.
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