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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:30 AM
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Last night, on 60 Minutes, Obama said he was heavily involved in the health care machinations ......
..... and has been working hard on getting a bill passed.

Comment on that, if you please ......

Has he, in your view, been working hard?

Has he, in your view, been working effectively?
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:32 AM
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1. He must be doing
it very, very quietly. One of my main beefs is that he hasn't been out there fighting - no veto threats - no nothing.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:32 AM
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2. you mean working hard to screw us? working hard at keeping his mouth shut as we are getting screwed
with that, I would agree.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:33 AM
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3. He must be the best there is at keeping a low profile while he toils away.
I'll bet he uses the Cone of Silence when he talks about it.
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NFL80 Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:36 AM
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4. machination definition
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 11:37 AM by NFL80
machination <ˌmækɪˈneɪʃən ˌmæʃ->
n
1. an intrigue, plot, or scheme
2. the act of devising plots or schemes
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:38 AM
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5. Your point, Mr. Webster?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:39 AM
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6. If he's not an attention whore when working behind the scenes
How can anybody with any integrity comment either way on this?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:42 AM
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9. if what we are seeing is him working behind the scenes, it isn't doing much good
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:58 AM
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13. With ya' ... eom
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chandler2 Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:42 AM
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7. What was the set up softball question he was asked?

Questions asked by the controlled media are always easily answered by most politicians and they are rarely asked any
follow-up questions.

MSM is "all fluff, no stuff".
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:42 AM
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8. "I am a New Democrat" -- Pres. Obama, March 11, 2009
He's been working hard against Progressives--he's not one of us. He's trying to remake the Democratic Party as "the sane Republican Party", and trying to push Democrats to the fringe--as evidenced by Rahm's Message Discipline team's attacks on progressives.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:44 AM
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10. Roger that "he's not one of us. He's trying to remake the Democratic Party as "the sane Republican "
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:48 AM
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11. .
:crazy:
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braunfels Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:52 AM
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12. Failure to communicate
Perhaps the biggest failure (so far) of this administration is the failure to have an effective spokesperson on health care. Who speaks for Obama when lies are being spread? Where's Biden? Where's the HHS secretary? Why the hell didn't Obama use Howard Dean as the voice of his administration when it came to health care reform? Let's face it the war is about to be lost and repubs will once again conquer the timid, ineffective dems.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:26 PM
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14. It was Rahm Emannuel. The problem is, we didn't like what he was communicating.
So he slithered back into the shadows, and kept the communications limited to bullying Progressives into compromising. I'm sure you all remember the "left of the left" stuff that Rahm was floating this summer. That's the White House's message--it just didn't go over well enough on a mainstream level to keep it out front in the public eye.
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braunfels Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:52 PM
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15. Rahm's still communicating...
His message is back down and submit.

From Politico:

"Lieberman threw health care reform into doubt Sunday when he told Reid that he would filibuster the bill if it allowed Americans ages 55 to 64 to purchase coverage in Medicare. His comments on CBS’s “Face the Nation” set off a series of private meetings Sunday between the Senate leadership and top White House aides, including Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, who encouraged Reid to cut the deal with Lieberman, the official said. The White House declined to comment."

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