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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:53 PM
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I shall re-state in a less inflammatory manner.
I was clearly too harsh in my weekend post, so I will say the same thing without inflammatory language.

If one peppers one's argument with insults aimed at those whose opinions they wish to sway, it will not be a successful attempt.

This is obvious to those who participate in the political process. Those on the receiving end might be forgiven, in such a situation, for believing the goal of anyone behaving in that manner is not truly to sway the opinions of those participating in the discussion, but rather to fill some unrelated and unhelpful need.

There now.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:58 PM
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1. this is why the Haters have absolutely no effect on Obama's decisions
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:01 PM
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5. Did you forget your sarcasm smiley or is this one of those lovely ironic
posts?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:02 PM
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6. Misplaced.
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 03:02 PM by EFerrari
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:59 PM
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2. You know, I'm not sure exactly what situation you're referring to, BUT . . .
I had a very similar situation over the weekend in a discussion with someone I haven't spoken to for over 20 years. . . Thankfully, I'm not likely to speak to him for another 20 :)
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:01 PM
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3. Well, that's not very dingbatty!
(And I completely agree)
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Liberation Angel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:01 PM
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4. The folks who insult and harass folks here are lame
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 03:04 PM by Liberation Angel
I get attacked for my antinuke stuff or my philosophy of the Nazis in our midst (on wall street and washington) or on my BELIEFS, say about Hitler being helped to escape to Argentina by the Bushnazis, etc, and I find the attacks on my credibility and psychological state are SO LAME>

It is as if there are 13 year old neonazis with keyboards and computers in the bodies of grown people taking me on for what I believe and saying stupidity like "take your meds" or saying it is paranioa, etc.

But my feeling is that these tactics are diversionary (to make one not want to read the threads, as well as subtle propagganda tactics to dissuay people from considering ideas that they may not have been exposed to before.

My father used to say, don't say I am right or wrong when you respond: just CONSIDER what I am saying and think about it.

I learned a long time ago that you cannot convince someone what is true or not you can and should really only try to convince them what YOU believe to be true or right and let them figure it out on their own.

Instead the active disruptors/message control propagandists act like jerks and insult other posters.


LAME-O-RAMA here at DU But it helps when they raise their sleazy hydra heads to keep track of their agendas)

(Y'all know who ypu are and I am sure will attack this post just to prove me right, once again. No problemo. Just goes to show us all your agendas)
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comrade snarky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:14 PM
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9. You know, when you say
"It is as if there are 13 year old neonazis with keyboards and computers in the bodies of grown people taking me on for what I believe"

You just seriously insulted the people who disagree with you. There are mean people on DU but suggesting someone is a neo-Nazi, that's asking for a throw down.


Hello pot, meet kettle.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:41 PM
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12. i know. DU is an endless source of irony...
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comrade snarky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:48 PM
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14. Isn't it just
Lame-O-Rama indeed.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:28 PM
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22. You're entitled to your own BELIEFS...
You're not entitled to your own facts. You're also not entitled to have your beliefs protected from criticism or even ridicule.

And calling DU'ers that don't share your opinions "neo nazis" is offensive.

Sid
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:03 PM
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7. Agreed. n/t
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:10 PM
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8. Yeah, listen up, all you brain-dead douche-nozzle shit-heads! Can't you assholes show some
fucking decency? Bloody hell, it would be hard enough listening to your stinking lies, even without your moronic juvenile bull-crap! I know your mama raised you up better than this, even though she wears army boots
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:14 PM
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10. LOL
...It's like closed-captioning for the civility-impaired. :D
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:32 PM
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11. Just glad to lend a helpin hand
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:43 PM
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13. If this is so obvious, why was your original post inflammatory?
easier said than done perhaps?
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:12 PM
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16. Of course, you must be right.
:)
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 03:53 PM
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15. you suck...
...and you'll continue to suck until you agree with me! :rofl:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:13 PM
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17. Your post was better the first time.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:18 PM
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18. This needed to be said
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 07:35 PM by Hutzpa
there seemed to be a lot of hate been spewed by some lately, a lot of spite.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:21 PM
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19. K&R...
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 07:22 PM by SidDithers
I missed it on the weekend, but would have surely rec'd that one too.

Sid
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:23 PM
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20. Hey! You un-adiosed!
Now the polls will all make sense again. Yay!
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:27 PM
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21. Nice Post, Dingbat Hitler!
recommended
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