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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:24 PM
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Health Care Reform Celebratory Thread.
I thought I'd get a jump on this! Let's see what we have now:

NO Public Option

NO Medicare buy -in

NO Re-importation of drugs

NO National negotiation of drug prices

NO elimination of annual limits

MANDATORY purchase of over-priced lousy coverage

NO real restrictions on what Insurance Companies can charge for Pre-existing conditions.


Well I don't know about you all, But I think this looks like one whiz-bang bill!!!

And think about the great Rose Garden bill signing!!!! Won't that be a hoot!!

So do not waste any time, chime in here with your words of praise for all who made this possible!!
Especially the Man of the hour, Barack Obama our President! Thank him for all of the political capital he spent, through his right hand man Rahm!! Hip-Hip-Hooray!!:toast: :bounce: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :applause: :woohoo: :fistbump: :headbang: :headbang: :bounce: :toast: :party: :party: :party: :toast: :pals: :fistbump: :headbang: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause:
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:27 PM
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1. Whats sad is the hardcore Obama cheerleaders/apologists
will put up celebratory threads if this bill passes!
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:29 PM
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4. I thought I'd beat them to it!
:) Hip-Hip-Hooray!!!!!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:31 PM
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8. I was a cheerleader
until Obama fucking cravenly capitulated to Lieberman.

Fuck that shit.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:34 PM
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10. Wave the pom-poms with me!!!
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:17 PM
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46. Sorry about that...
...I knew that Lieberman would threaten a filibuster no matter what. I know it hurts.

But this bill does practically nothing to help me, my family, or the average American, so I cannot in good conscience support it.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:28 PM
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2. IBTL!
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 08:31 PM by tnlefty
Whiz bangs, a type of firework, but I don't think I'll be celebrating. :evilgrin:

And a great big :toast: to Rahm, the Blue Dogs and Conservadems for making all of this possible. Thanks Rahm!
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:30 PM
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6. Yes! lot's of fireworks!!!!
Rah-Rah-Rah!!!!
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:28 PM
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3. yay

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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:29 PM
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5. That cat has the spirit!!
Yippeee!!!!!!
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:31 PM
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7. It's even worse than *I* predicted. And I was the worst pessimist on this from the start.
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 08:31 PM by Nikki Stone1
It was always all about the mandates. The insurance gangsters have won and we are screwed.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:33 PM
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9. It may get worse , yet!! We can "HOPE", anyway!!!
sis-boom-bah...rah-rah-rah:toast: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :fistbump: :fistbump: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:34 PM
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11. FUCK HOPE.
What we needed was change.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:35 PM
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12. Do like I do, Check the sofa cushions!
:)
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:39 PM
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14. Spare change we can believe in!
Let's all go to CoinStar! :woohoo:
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:40 PM
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16. Brother, can you spare a dime????
:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :applause:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:50 PM
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28. Or as my oldest said, "Change, change in my pocket,
change my underwear?"

Nah, roll it yourself CoinStar takes a percentage. :toast:
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:55 PM
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34. Save it for the bus, when the car dies,or is repoed!
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:28 PM
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52. Ah, ah, ah, that one cast his first vote for the current President,
the next one in line to be able to vote stated in the car a couple of mornings ago, "Obama needs to grow a pair, like FDR." He was referencing the Madison Square Garden speech that we've listened to many times...

My boys have dealt with my being away for county party meetings (until recently), when Ford ran for senate in '06, I was away from home a lot, and I paid them out of my pocket to hold signs at my precinct after school on election day. I've pulled them out of school to attend rallies, i.e., when our family supported Howard Dean in the primaries, but Wes Clark was at the Chattanooga Choo Choo.

Losing the young'uns is losing the young'uns. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :toast: :party:
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AndrewP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:40 AM
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63. LOL. I know it's not REALLY funny, but I couldn't help but laugh at that one liner.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:01 PM
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35. My hope is that the mandates will be declared not constitutional
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 09:04 PM by Generator
Lord knows Obama has no problem with infinite detention (Baghram instead of Guantanamo) and waterless or even warentless (love me spell check) _ wiretapping. But you know-the kick in the karmic pants would be his "win" being defeated by it being unconditional. Penalties if you don't buy insurance? Bullshit. It's not the same as car or house insurance. No one HAS to drive or buy a house. I do have to breathe though. So I am mandated to pay for it according to whatever they charge or face penalties? And it's no cheaper-but more expensive? That should go over well with America.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:29 PM
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53. Not gonna happen with this corporatist court
:(
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:37 PM
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13. Look! "Haters" are Unrecing this HCR celebratory thread!!!
Why do they hate Obama?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:39 PM
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15. whoo hoo
nice summary
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:48 PM
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24. Whoo-hoo, indeed!
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :applause: :woohoo: :woohoo: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:
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endless october Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:41 PM
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17. if the bill is as negative as is being reported
it's worthless.

better to re-introduce single payer every year until it's passed.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:41 PM
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18. Oh, c'mon, celebrate!!! Dance to the music!!!!!
:party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:44 PM
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19. The insurance companies will be happy, though.
Change they can believe in!
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:46 PM
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21. And you are not happy for them???
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:53 PM
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31. I'm thrilled. Think of the jobs this will create
to manage ripping off the general public to an even greater degree!
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:54 PM
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33. And the children!! Just think of the children!!!
:party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:19 PM
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47. And the more children, the more mandatory customers for the insurance cos!!!!!
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:45 PM
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20. It's almost as good as Genuine Guaranteed Miracle HairGro and Wart Removal Ointment!
What a deal!
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:46 PM
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22. No, that is not covered.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:48 PM
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23. Well, we can hope that it will be when they revisit the bill..someday..maybe.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:49 PM
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26. But until then....
:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :party: :party: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:49 PM
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25. I think I'll buy a ticket to Costa Rica instead.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:50 PM
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27. When you get back.......
:fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :applause: :woohoo: :applause:
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:51 PM
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29. Again with the "Haters"....sheeeesh!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:51 PM
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30. THANK GAWWD IT WILL PASS!
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:53 PM
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32. No,Rahm, and his Minion Barack!!
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:01 PM
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36. You betcha! They gonna GET IT DONE!


:sarcasm:
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:07 PM
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40. Damn skippy!!!
If we work real hard, I'll bet we can keep the pitts -Stupak languge, too!!!!!:toast: :toast: :party: :toast: :party: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :toast: :toast: :party: :toast:
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:03 PM
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37. No. It's OUR fault. If we didn't complain we'd have some tiny pittance thrown at us.
We'd have some railroad job with some bullshit concession like "a discussion of eliminating annual limits" and then they'd feel more empowered to ram another load of bullshit our way next time.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:08 PM
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41. I, am hoping for the Pitts -Stupak language.
That would cap it off nicely!!!:toast: :toast: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:06 PM
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38. Somebody finally got his pony
Who knew that was insurable?
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HarveyDarkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:06 PM
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39. .
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:09 PM
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42. GO !!! Indeed!!!!
:party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :toast: :party: :toast: :bounce: :bounce:
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HarveyDarkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:13 PM
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44. Darn, I thought that was OG
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:10 PM
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43. Oh-Oh, I've been partying a little too hard!!
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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TCJ70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:14 PM
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45. But but but...after they pass it we'll...
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 09:15 PM by TCJ70
...get the reform we REALLY want. Right?

...

...

...right?
(this was my favorite ridiculous reasoning for wanting anything passed, by the way)
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:20 PM
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48. While we're at it, why don't we just go ahead and bring back debtor's prisons.
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 09:21 PM by Faryn Balyncd

Is there any thing else that could make this bill worse?








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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:47 PM
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57. Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:24 PM
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49. Party time.
Democratic Party time.:crazy:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:25 PM
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:27 PM
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51. Senators like Wyden and Sherod Brown
are telling progressives not to stop fighting, yea sure, they drop the medicare buy in for one freaking joe the bummer. Strip this man of his chairmanship damn!!!!!!!!!!! oops this is celebratory thread, wooo hoo!!!!!!!!!!! :wtf:
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:31 PM
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54. This is as exciting as waiting for all that prosperity to start trickling down!!!!
The anticipation is just killing me. And now this! Is this a great country or what???!!!



:toast: :bounce: :fistbump: :headbang: :yourock: :party:
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Hatchling Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:10 PM
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55. I'll drink to that!
In fact I'll drink so much that I :puke:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:16 PM
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56. STOP IT YOU MEANIE!1!!!1
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:51 PM
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58. Yup, just as I feared, the Republican-inspired Massachusetts plan
taken nationwide.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:53 PM
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59. Someone just hand the President a pen so he can sign the bill and declare "victory".
Great OP.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:23 AM
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60. STOP BEING MEAN TO OUR DREAMY PRESIDENT!1!!11
YOU NEVER LIKED HIM!!!1!

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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:26 AM
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61. Hey now, sausage casings without any stuffing can be quite tasty. nt
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:39 AM
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62. Chitlins ??
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:44 AM
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65. Exactly, a stinky sour ass plate of chitlins. nt
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:42 AM
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64. K&R with a heavy heart.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:46 AM
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66. I am so excited about our new health care deal ...I can't wait to get plugged in.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 01:11 PM
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67. I'm for calling a spade a spade
This health care reform is total bullshit.
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