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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 04:16 PM Original message |
The Myth of the American Dream: |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. But how ugly will the shattered "dreamers" turn, left in the ash heaps here? |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. Hunter said it was dead a long time ago. |
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galileoreloaded (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Not to mention balanced on the back of developing nations.... |
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Old Codger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yes |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. Shortly after the American Revolution |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
5. "The illusion of freedom [in America] will continue as long as it’s profitable..." |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I thought of this quote immediately. n/t |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
6. I posted this photo earlier this afternoon... |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
7. The Dream of the American Myth. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
9. The reality of my American Dream. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Ah yes, well |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Hard work almost always trumps luck. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Not entirely true. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. I assumed... |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. HAVING A MOMMY WHO COULD TAKE YOU IN AS AN ADULT MADE IT POSSIBLE |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. No doubt. |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. you were still subsidized by taxpayers |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Yup, just like everyone else. |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. as I said, success is relative |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. self-delete |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. sorry about the double posting... got tripped up by the DU server |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
44. That's the dream. To believe that luck is only some tiny part of your current success. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. What defeatism! |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. It's experience, I was where you are and I would not have believed it could happen to me either. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. I feel sorry for your sense of helplessness. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. No worries. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
47. Sounds like you did work hard but luck did enter into it too. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
62. juggling family for men is not the same as juggling family for women |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Wow, you make it sound like work. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
34. How's your mom doing? |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Let's see... the money she spent on his groceries, utilities and extras |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. I paid rent. |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. you didn't cover all your costs... |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. How do you know? |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. She's fine. |
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potisok (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
10. Reports expose myth of upward social mobility in US |
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Joe the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
11. The American Dream, imo, is just an illusion...... |
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CANDO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
66. American Exceptionalism |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
13. The American Dream myth is similar to the Merry England myth. |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
14. "American Delusion" is more accurate. |
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C_Lawyer09 (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
16. If the American dream is dead, why do people still risk everything to come here? |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Please provide an example of "people still risk everything to come here" |
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C_Lawyer09 (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Do you not read the news? |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. We need a border fence to keep the Canadians out |
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C_Lawyer09 (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Oh, I get it! |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
61. Legal US immigration |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
58. We're slightly better off than Haiti. Hooray? nt |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
63. because they're uneducated and ignorant? if they're smart, they go to canada or something |
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Joe the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. This n/t |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
18. How many countries have you lived in besides the United States? |
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C_Lawyer09 (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 09:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Exactly |
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anarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
19. the genius of the system in the U.S. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Same question to you as I gave to the OP |
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anarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I must admit, I've never lived outside of the U.S. |
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C_Lawyer09 (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. That is where you are wrong |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. You have fantasy view of the third world. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
55. Submitted without comment... |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
24. Antonio Gramsci spoke of this: the use of myths to coerce the masses without guns |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
30. The American Dream is still doing fine. It's the American Reality that's having problems. |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. That's an awesome quote. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. That's quotable! nt |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-15-09 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
32. America itself is dying. |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. Agree |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
36. The rest of the world is getting in on it |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
43. it totally existed-think of all the people who were educated,had children and nice jobs |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
46. The American dream is alive and well |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. LA is a cesspool of poverty and crime. And rich people in gated communites. Terrible example. nt |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
64. I've written about just this topic several times on DU (one of my favorite topics) |
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mddem9850 (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
67. It was always bullshit |
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