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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 08:50 PM
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America, this is the the epic battle between democracy and corporatization.
Jane Hamsher writes:


December 15, 2009 9:58 am


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The fact is the President campaigned on a public option. There were 88 members of the House who had cosponsored H.R. 676, the “single payer” bill. Rep. Woolsey and Grijalva had sent a letter to Nancy Pelosi in April saying that the 77 member Progressive Caucus would not support a bill without a public option. Didn’t seem like too much to ask that the Democratic party live up to its campaign promises, right?

Instead, President Obama cut sweetheart deals with medical industry stakeholders (let’s stop pretending that Rahm doesn’t work for him) and insisted that all the power in the Democratic Congress be given to its most conservative members to deliver on it. Joe Lieberman didn’t get here by himself — the day Harry Reid said reconciliation was “off the table,” Joe had the keys to the kingdom.

The “public option” was a way to keep as much money as possible from being channeled into the “too big to fail” insurance companies, who continue to merge and consolidate and will use it to lobby to further empower themselves. It was a strike against a “shock doctrine” effort to mandate payment to private companies, and preemptively privatizes the system.

As Dave Johnson writes (via email):

Most other countries provide health care as a right – a core function of government. But here privateers have seized it for themselves for profit. So to maintain this, to keep taxes low for the rich and keep the profits privatized we are ordered to buy it from companies instead of having it provided as a government service. This is the battle between democracy and corporatization.

Instead of a public option, what does the Senate bill contain?

* A removal of the ban on annual limits that Reid slipped in at the last minute, in violation of the President’s promise in his September address to Congress
* An exemption from anti-trust law for insurance companies that will reduce competition
* Taxes that start up in January, but benefits that don’t start until 2014
* No ability to negotiate for Medicare drug prices (you know, that thing the Democrats passed in the “first hundred days” in 2006 when it didn’t matter)
* No cost controls, so health insurance premiums will continue to rise at a rate of $1000 a year
* A tax on middle class insurance plans that is designed to cut back insurance benefits, reduce coverage, and increase co-pays and deductibles.

That reduction in your insurance benefits is a feature, not a bug — it’s how they’re going to “bend the cost curve.”

And so here we are. And we’re going to get to see if the progressive members of the House will stand by their word to hold the line, or if — as always seems to happen — they are going to “dive” in sufficient numbers to make sure that the corporatist agenda gets fulfilled. Are they going to pretend that Joe Lieberman has all the power in the party, too, and that they have none?

Please call their offices and let them know that they are in safe Democratic seats, and you expect them to do what they have repeatedly promised to do — vote against any bill that does not have a public option.

Because if the won’t, we’ll get to see that “good intentions” are just the public face of deep criminality and they’re really just there to hold down safe Democratic seats in order to deliver what PhRMA wants in the end.

.....




This Isn’t Health Reform; It’s Extortion for a Protection Racket, By Scarecrow, December 15, 2009 7:04 am


Watching Sherrod Brown, Ron Wyden and Harry Reid try to explain why the Senate’s emasculated health reform bill was still worth voting for was painful. These men know they’ve been defeated and humiliated by an unprincipled extortionist fronting for what amounts to a deadly protection racket.

Whatever Joe Lieberman’s motives, the reality is that he just performed a moral crime on national television. He’s essentially said that if Democrats want to provide even poor health insurance to 30 million uninsured Americans, the federal government and those citizens will have to pay blood money to an industry protection racket that will have the economic and political power to set the terms of that protection, shield itself from oversight and competition, and raise prices at will.

So you see, this isn’t about Joe getting even with Jane or me or any other "liberals." This is about organized crime. The victims aren’t "progressives" or other Democrats.

No, the victims are ordinary people, like the thousands, lovingly filmed by Eve Gitteleson, who showed up at the free clinics because they’d lost their jobs or their insurance and hadn’t seen a doctor or dentist in years, and the victims are those who will continue to go bankrupt, struggle to survive, or suffer and die. These are the people that Joe Lieberman is holding hostage and from whom the health industry would extort trillions of dollars in protection money.

This is a terrorist act. There are 15 times more deaths per year being perpetrated now, and threatened again by Lieberman’s demands — and those of every Republican from Snowe to McConnell — than were killed on 9/11.

So when the Washington Post’s idiotic Anne Kornblut praises Joe for his "courage," all you can do is wonder — and cancel your subscription.

Ezra Klein on Countdown made the argument many will now make: it may be unconscionable for Joe Lieberman to threaten to leave 30 million people uninsured, but that also means it would be unconscionable for Democrats to kill the bill and leave 30 million uninsured. A brutally divisive debate will rage and split everyone who actually cares about the 30 million.

Because that’s what extortion and protection rackets that threaten peoples’ lives do. We are arguing about paying extortion ransom money. Justice demands the perpetrators of these monstrous crimes be brought to justice, but justice and our common humanity also require we protect the victims.

The health reform debate is no longer about "reform." It has now become a hostage rescue effort for more than 30 million innocent victims. Every decision from here on must put the victims’ interests first, and whether we pay the extortionists’ ransom demands or not depends how that serves the victims’ safety.




So, to review what's in the Senate *Health Care Reform* bill:


1. No Single Payer

2. No public option

3. No expanded Medicare coverage

4. No drug re-importation

5. No cost controls

6. No renegotiation of drug prices

7. Capped annual coverage for care

8. Individual mandated coverage

9. Anti-trust exemption for insurance companies

10. A tax on middle class insurance plans

11. Taxes that start up in January, but benefits that don’t start until 2014



This gutted monstrosity is a grand gift to Big Insurance and Big Pharma.



It is now obvious to the American people that the Corporations have hijacked our system of government. Our government is no longer of the people, by the people and for the people.

This is not compatible with democracy.



We have now reached Critical Mass.



Kill this bill.





Mr. President, declare a state of emergency in our failed health care system; sign an Executive Order declaring that Medicare is hereby opened to everyone, effective in 2010.






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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 08:54 PM
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1. Battle? You mean like Little Bighorn? nt
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 08:56 PM
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3. No, I think, like class warfare.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:01 PM
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94. No. Some Indians were killed at Little Big Horn
Think "Black Hole of Calcutta".
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 08:54 PM
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2. kicked and recommended
:applause:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 08:57 PM
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4. Extortion is the right word. nt
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 08:58 PM
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5. K&R
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 08:59 PM
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6. Man, it hurts, but this is 100% correct. -eom
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:01 PM
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7. A few of your "in review" items are pure Republican talking points, but I get your drift.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:52 PM
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10. i get your drift too.

show "a few" "pure republican talking points" in the op.
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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:37 PM
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44. I would like to know
which are republican talking points, as well. Or, is this just a hit and run accusation?
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:02 PM
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84. It is hit and run.
When my RW neighbor criticizes the Administration, some of what he says is some of what I say.

But the over all stance on life is a different one. When a President is owned by Corporate Interrests, how many ways can you say that?
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 03:28 PM
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63. still waiting, republican talking points?
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:12 PM
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8. Epic battle can only be won with
torches and pitch forks.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:47 PM
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9. i wish i could rec this 100 times.

thank you for this post.
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:19 PM
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38. This is Critical for LIberals to Understand
Me too. Critical!
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:57 PM
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11. Watching C-Span today made my head explode. We have NO representation.
One thing that has become increasingly clear to everyone
is the fact that our "representatives" are COMPLETELY out of touch
with the reality of "life in the trenches" where the rest of us live.

They are working night and day in the interests of the corporations
that fill their pockets and totally insulated by their enormous
wealth they amass for perpetuating the agenda of the 1% of the
population that benefit while the rest of us parish.

I don't see things getting better in our life times, quite the opposite.
Even if we voted them all out of office, there are thousands more
like them in line and I don't believe for one minute
that those who now own all the wealth would allow some one
who actually acted in the interest of the people would be
allowed to take power.

BHN

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:09 PM
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12. The cure
Edward Abbey correctly stated that the cure for a sick democracy is more democracy. That equals more representation. Which can only mean more representatives.

I've often thought that if we established people's councils and we got together and voted on issues and passed that vote along as from the people it might just sway the congress to do the people's bidding.

Lawd knows we need something different.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:16 PM
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16. We've known this for 40 years and it continues to worsen as corporatism gets more rooted
Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 11:57 PM by defendandprotect
in our people's government --

What's Plan B?????????????????????????????????

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:18 PM
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17. kick
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:20 PM
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18. Plan B??? Hell if I know.
I'm thinking it has come to the point where the
best we can hope for is not to go down with a whimper.

I plan on screaming bloody murder all the way.

BHN
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:59 PM
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19. Don't you think that liberals/progressives should be ...
working on a Plan B as a voting bloc?

What is our response to corporate-owed legislators ---

and do we seriously think that the GOP would handle a Lieberman problem by

coddling him the way the Dems have been doing?

Stop focusing on Lieberman -- focus on who is giving him this power??

Evidently, Lieberman is more powerful than Pres. Obama???

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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:35 PM
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56. Corporations have the power
Congress and the Whitehouse are there tools.

If they are good little tools, maybe they'll be invited to graduate from the merely political elite to join the economic elite.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:12 PM
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96. New Deal remedied all of that -- we have to start over . . .
but this time we should just let capitalism disappear --

Also monopolies and very wealthy citizens do become a threat to democracy -

that's where we are now --

They use religion and anything else they can get their hands on to control "reality."

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:03 PM
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67. Well, if we could arrest them all that might help get rid of them...
However, we now live in a land ruled by outlaws who
act with no fear of law.

Honestly, I don't know what plan B is.
Wish I did.

BHN
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:28 PM
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50. You and me both...
if it's passed like this and we're required to pay private insurance, I plan on going to jail:mad:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:58 PM
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54. And then you will have taxpayer funded health care. Ironic, eh?
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:06 AM
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21. Really. The analysis of the new left was correct.
The remedies were half baked and idiotic romantic revolutionary nonsense. We are all older now. We need to think about how to effect real and meaningful change that addresses the systemic malfunction in washington.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:47 AM
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22. That malfunction in democracy/government is CORPORATISM... as Jane Hamsher is pointing out --
The remedy is for Democrats to come to terms with that reality and to stop

self-delusional theories about compromising with corporatism!!!

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CanSocDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 03:58 PM
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66. That's exactly right.


New battle plans have to be drawn. Or dust off the ones that have been around for decades.
.
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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:00 AM
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23. It appears to be a tagteam
There is only one party and it doesn't represent anyone except the corporate government that operates more alike an international crime syndicate. American policy has been replaced by the strategic goals of the plutocracy, which appears to be a global alliance of plunderers spearheaded by an American/Israeli alliance.

Our elections are farcical, not much different than the Iraq/Afghan elections. We get McCain or we get Obama. The end results are the same. I wonder how many of the 535 are legitimately representative of our people. Precious few I'd bet.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:17 AM
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32. +100
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:35 PM
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43. I believe when Corporations rule
hand-in-hand with the government, we have fascism.

An aside: If we could turn the Pentagon into a Triangle, we might be able to have Single Payer.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:24 PM
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74. Many of us have discussed the Hegelian aspect of this "two-party" system.
I agree, we have nothing more that a stage managed appearance of
discussion and debate between two parties.
The outcome of all this Kabuki theater has been
decided long before the show begins on each issue.

BHN
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:07 PM
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91. Yup. n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:14 PM
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97. Agree, agree, agree with all you 're saying . . .
Evidently, their concern for Americans extends to providing a good script and

cover-story about why it can't be done!!!

:evilgrin:
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:34 AM
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26. I fear you are 100% correct.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:17 PM
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70. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
And yes, I fear I, and countless others, are correct too.
BHN
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:31 PM
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55. A post above mentioned...
stones and pitchforks.

David slew Goliath with a sling and a stone.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:22 PM
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73. I just hope the stones and pitchforks are aimed at the right targets-
As I mentioned to you in one my first post replies to you,
I am afraid that with lunatics like Sarah Palin and her ilk
rallying ignorant Americans who actually think
their misfortune is the result of gay marriages and dirty "libruls,"
the citizens may turn on each other instead of the
bastards who put them in this modern day state of serfdom.
I fear too few comprehend the source of their troubles.


BHN
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:50 PM
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78. It's called "the fog of war" and yes
I fear it too.

If no enlightened leadership emerges to give direction, then we should expect chaos instead of nonviolent revolt.

One of the difference between the American Revolution and the French Revolution.

A little creative patience is in order on our part. By that I mean, we should be preparing for when that leadership appears.

There are some potential leaders out there. They have the public ear. They just need to conclude that it is time to step outside of the system and go directly to the people for support.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:03 PM
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80. Enlightened leaders tend to be "Wellstoned."
If such a person was on our horizon, how would we know it?
If we organized behind such a person, how long before the PTB permanently removed them?
Kennedy, King, Malcolm and countless others that have emerged over the last few decades
come to mind in particular.

The media is now a monopoly that markets distraction, not news.
I can't imagine a serious threat to the status quo, by that I mean
a leader who could actually unite the people and educate them
as to the source of their woes and the solution to their problems,
being given even ten seconds of national broadcast time.

Not arguing with your thinking, just wondering how you see
such a person succeeding in our current system of operations.

BHN
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:25 PM
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89. All that you wrote makes sense
I'm just hoping the people find a way.

I would be worried that any credible leader of dissent would be eliminated.

If a credible leader did appear, I would certainly sacrifice all to support him/her.

G1984
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:10 PM
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95. Terrific post . . .
I have a friend who votes Green in NJ and he's been saying that the

birth certificate issue lurks . . . just in case they need to take

Obama down.

In case, he begins to get populist ideas!!

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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:24 PM
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13. Hear, hear! Kill this bill. It's worse than doing nothing. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:13 PM
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86. Far worse - it's like pouring salt on an open wound!
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:28 PM
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14. Proudly recommended. nt
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:10 PM
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15. K&R
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:04 AM
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20. We need to kill the system.
The bill is merely a symptom. We need a political force that represents the people. Until we have that we will continue to our slide into 21st century corporate feudalism.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 03:26 PM
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62. It sure is killing us!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:00 AM
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24. kick
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aaronbav Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:16 AM
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25. On Feudalisim: Long Live the Rabble!
Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 02:23 AM by aaronbav
The article below is one of the earliest pieces by Thom Hartmann that I ever read, and was what originally turned me on to his Radio show WAY back in '02 - I have been a die-hard fan ever since (Disclaimer: I'm in no way associated with any of Thom's endeavors, OTHER than being a huge fan).

This article is a little dated (especially since it was written in '02) in that, IMHO, where Thom writes about "Conservatives", I in my darkest imaginings would NEVER have put any DEMOCRAT into that category. The last few month have completely changed my minds on that account (Obama, Rham, Bluedogs, Bacus, Geitner, Summers, etc, etc). I sincerely believe that today we really ONLY have ONE Party - a twin headed beast - one called Republikan, and one called Democrat - and one BODY - the Corporations.

The following article is one which I believe every progressive should read, especially in light of the so called "Health Care reform" fiasco that is being played out AGAINST us right now! I find myself going back to read it every few months - It at least gives me a small bit of hope that maybe, some how, some way, we might be able to take our lives and our society back from the "new feudalist" that are hellbent on taking over every aspect of our lives and I absolutely include MANDATED PURCHASE OF FOR PROFIT, PRIVATE "HEALTH" INSURANCE as the most AGGRESSIVE aspect of out NOW fascist neo-feudal government.

The article is long, but well worth the read. I did highlight some key points in red if you want to give a quick browse first - and then I think you would certainly want to read the entire article!


Happy Reading!!!!




http://www.thomhartmann.com/2003/06/04/midnight-ride-of-the-rabble/

Midnight Ride of the Rabble


Thom Hartmann



Let’s be blunt. The real agenda of the new conservatives (including the BLUEDOGS - aaronbav) is nothing less than the destruction of democracy in the United States of America. And feudalism is one of their weapons.

Published on Wednesday, June 4, 2002 by CommonDreams.org

To every Middlesex village and farm,
A cry of defiance, and not of fear,
A voice in the darkness, a knock at the door,
And a word that shall echo for evermore!
For, borne on the night-wind of the Past,
Through all our history, to the last,
In the hour of darkness and peril and need,
The people will waken and listen to hear.
– From Paul Revere's Ride by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, 1863

Emerson told us, in his lecture Angloam, that in America "the old contest of feudalism and democracy renews itself here on a new battlefield." Perhaps seeing our day through a crack between the skeins of time and space, Emerson concluded, "It is wonderful, with how much rancor and premeditation at this moment the fight is prepared."

Feudalism?

Let's be blunt. The real agenda of the new conservatives is nothing less than the destruction of democracy in the United States of America. And feudalism is one of their weapons.

Their rallying cry is that government is the enemy, and thus must be "drowned in a bathtub." In that, they've mistaken our government for the former Soviet Union, or confused Ayn Rand's fictional and disintegrating America with the real thing.

The government of the United States is us. It was designed to be a government of, by, and for We, the People. It's not an enemy to be destroyed; it's a means by which we administer and preserve the commons that we collectively own.

Nonetheless, the new conservatives see our democratic government as the enemy. And if they plan to destroy democracy, they must have something in mind to replace it with. (Yes, I know that "democracy" and "democratic" sound too much like "Democrat," and so the Republicans want us to say that we don't live in a democracy, but, rather, a republic, which sounds more like "Republican." It was one of Newt's efforts, along with replacing phrases like "Democratic Senator" with "Democrat Senator." But Republican political correctness can take a leap: we're talking here about the survival of democracy in our constitutional republic.)

What conservatives are really arguing for is a return to the three historic forms of tyranny that the Founders and Framers identified, declared war against, and fought and died to keep out of our land. Those tyrants were kings, theocrats, and noble feudal lords.

Kings would never again be allowed to govern America, the Founders said, so they stripped the president of the power to declare war. As Lincoln noted in an 1848 letter to William Herndon: "Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object. This, our <1787> Convention understood to be the most oppressive of all Kingly oppressions; and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us."

Theocrats would never again be allowed to govern America, as they had tried in the early Puritan communities. In 1784, when Patrick Henry proposed that the Virginia legislature use a sort of faith-based voucher system to pay for "Christian education," James Madison responded with ferocity, saying government support of church teachings "will be a dangerous abuse of power." He added, "The Rulers who are guilty of such an encroachment exceed the commission from which they derive their authority, and are Tyrants. The People who submit to it are governed by laws made neither by themselves nor by an authority derived from them, and are slaves."

And America was not conceived of as a feudal state, feudalism being broadly defined as "rule by the super-rich." Rather, our nation was created in large part in reaction against centuries of European feudalism. As Ralph Waldo Emerson said in his lecture titled The Fortune of the Republic, delivered on December 1, 1863, "We began with freedom. America was opened after the feudal mischief was spent. No inquisitions here, no kings, no nobles, no dominant church."

The great and revolutionary ideal of America is that a government can exist while drawing its authority, power, and ongoing legitimacy from a single source: "The consent of the governed." Conservatives, however, would change all that.

In their brave new world, corporations are more suited to governance than are the unpredictable rabble called citizens. Corporations should control politics, control the commons, control health care, control our airwaves, control the "free" market, and even control our schools. Although corporations can't vote, these new conservatives claim they should have human rights, like privacy from government inspections of their political activity and the free speech right to lie to politicians and citizens in PR and advertising. Although corporations don't need to breathe fresh air or drink pure water, these new conservatives would hand over to them the power to self-regulate poisonous emissions into our air and water.

While these new conservatives claim corporations should have the rights of persons, they don't mind if corporations use hostile financial force to take over other, smaller corporations in a bizarre form of corporate slavery called monopoly. Corporations can't die, so aren't subject to inheritance taxes or probate. They can't be put in prison, so even when they cause death they are only subject to fines.

Corporations and their CEOs are America's new feudal lords, and the new conservatives are their obliging servants and mouthpieces. The conservative mantra is: "Less government!" But the dirty little secret of the new conservatives is that just as nature abhors a vacuum, so also do politics and power. Every time government of, by, and for We, the People is pushed out of administering some part of this nation's vast commons, corporations step in. And by swamping the United States of America in debt with so-called "tax cuts," they seek to force an increasingly desperate government to cede more and more of our commons to their corporate rule.

Conservatives confuse efficiency and cost: They suggest that big corporations can perform public services at a lower total cost than government, while ignoring the corporate need to pad the bill with dividends to stockholders, rich CEO salaries, corporate jets and headquarters, advertising, millions in "campaign contributions," and cash set-asides for growth and expansion. They want to frame this as the solution of the "free market," and talk about entrepreneurs and small businesses filling up the holes left when government lets go of public property.

But these are straw man arguments: What they are really advocating is corporate rule, and ultimately a feudal state controlled exclusively by the largest of the corporations. Smaller corporations, like individual humans and the governments they once hoped would protect them from powerful feudal forces, can watch but they can't play.


The modern-day conservative movement began with Federalists Alexander Hamilton and John Adams, who argued that for a society to be stable it must have a governing elite, and this elite must be separate both in power and privilege from what Adams referred to as "the rabble." Their Federalist party imploded in the early 19th Century, in large part because of public revulsion over Federalist elitism, a symptom of which was Adams' signing the Alien and Sedition Acts. (If you've only read the Republican biographies of John Adams, you probably don't remember these laws, even though they were the biggest thing to have happened in Adams' entire four years in office, and the reason why the citizens of America voted him out of office, and voted Jefferson – who loudly and publicly opposed the Acts – in. They were a 1797 version of the Patriot Act and Patriot II, with startlingly similar language.)

Destroyed by their embrace of this early form of despotism, the Federalists were replaced first in the early 1800s by the short-lived Whigs and then, starting with Lincoln, by the modern-day Republicans, who, after Lincoln's death, firmly staked out their ancestral Federalist position as the party of wealthy corporate and private interests. And now, under the disguise of the word "conservative" (classical conservatives like Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower are rolling in their graves), these old-time feudalists have nearly completed their takeover of our great nation.

It became obvious with the transformation of healthcare into a for-profit industry, leading to spiraling costs (and millions of dollars for Bill Frist and his ilk). Insurance became necessary for survival, and people were worried. Bill Clinton was prepared to answer the concern of the majority of Americans who supported national health care. But that would harm corporate profits.

"Do you want government bureaucrats deciding which doctor you can see?" asked the conservatives, over and over again. As a yes/no question, the answer was pretty simple for most Americans: no. But, as is so often the case when conservatives try to influence public opinion, the true issue wasn't honestly stated.

The real question was: "Do you want government bureaucrats – who are answerable to elected officials and thus subject to the will of 'We, The People' – making decisions about your healthcare, or would you rather have corporate bureaucrats – who are answerable only to their CEOs and work in a profit-driven environment – making decisions about your healthcare?"

For every $100 that passes through the hands of the government-administered Medicare programs, between $2 and $3 is spent on administration, leaving $97 to $98 to pay for medical services and drugs. But of every $100 that flows through corporate insurance programs and HMOs, $10 to $24 sticks to corporate fingers along the way. After all, Medicare doesn't have lavish corporate headquarters, corporate jets, or pay expensive lobbying firms in Washington to work on its behalf. It doesn't "donate" millions to politicians and their parties. It doesn't pay profits in the form of dividends to its shareholders. And it doesn't compensate its top executive with over a million dollars a year, as do each of the largest of the American insurance companies. Medicare has one primary mandate: serve the public. Private corporations also have one primary mandate: generate profit.

When Jeb Bush cut a deal with Enron to privatize the Everglades, it diminished the power of the Florida government to protect a natural resource and enhanced the power and profitability of Enron. Similarly, when politicians argue for harsher sentencing guidelines and also advocate more corporate-owned prisons, they're enhancing the power and profits of one of America's fastest-growing and most profitable remaining domestic industries: incarceration. But having government protect the quality of the nation's air and water by mandating pollution controls doesn't enhance corporate profits. Neither does single-payer health-care, which threatens insurance companies with redundancy, or requirements for local control of broadcast media. In these and other regards, however, the government still holds the keys to the riches of the commons held in trust for us all. Riches the corporations want to convert into profits.

For example, an NPR Morning Edition report by Rick Carr on 28 May 2003 said, "Current FCC Chair Michael Powell says he has faith the market will provide. What's more, he says, he'd rather have the market decide than government." In this, Powell was reciting the conservative mantra. Misconstruing Adam Smith, who warned about the dangers of the invisible hand of the marketplace trampling the rights and needs of the people, Powell suggests that business always knows best. The market will decide. Bigger isn't badder.

But experience shows that the very competition that conservatives claim to embrace is destroyed by the unrestrained growth of corporate interests. It's called monopoly: Big fish eat little fish, over and over, until there are no little fish left. Look at the thoroughfares of any American city and ask yourself how many of the businesses there are locally owned. Instead of cash circulating within a local and competitive economy, at midnight every night a button is pushed and the local money is vacuumed away to Little Rock or Chicago or New York.

This is feudalism in its most raw and naked form, just as the kings and nobles of old sucked dry the resources of the people they claimed to own. It is in these arguments for unrestrained corporatism that we see the naked face of Hamilton's Federalists in the modern conservative movement. It's the face of wealth and privilege, of what Jefferson called a "pseudo-aristocracy," that works to its own enrichment and gain regardless of the harm done to the nation, the commons, or the "We, the People" rabble.

It is, in its most complete form, the face that would "drown government in a bathtub"; that sneers at the First Amendment by putting up "free speech zones" for protesters; that openly and harshly suggests that those who are poor, unemployed, or underemployed are suffering from character defects. That works hard to protect the corporate interest, but is happy to ignore the public interest. That says it doesn't matter what happens to the humans living in what a national conservative talk show host laughingly calls "turd world nations."

These new conservatives would have us trade in our democracy for a corporatocracy, a form of feudal government most recently reinvented by Benito Mussolini when he recommended a "merger of business and state interests" as a way of creating a government that would be invincibly strong. Mussolini called it fascism.

In a previous Common Dreams op-ed, I pointed out how media and other corporations will suck up to government when they think they can get regulations that will enhance their profits. We see this daily in the halls of Congress and in the lobbying efforts directed at our regulatory agencies. We see it in the millions of dollars in trips and gifts given to FCC commissioners, that in another era would have been called bribes.

These corporate-embracing conservatives are not working for what's best for democracy, for America, or for the interests of "We, The People." They are explicitly interested in a singular goal: Profits and the power to maintain them. Under control, the desire for profit can be a useful thing, as 200 years of American free enterprise have shown.

But unrestrained, as George Soros warns us so eloquently, it will create monopoly and destroy democracy. The new conservatives are systematically dismantling our governmental systems of checks and balances; of considering the public good when regulating private corporate behavior; of protecting those individuals, small businesses, and local communities who are unable to protect themselves from giant corporate predators. They want to replace government of, by, and for We, the People, with a corporate feudal state, turning America's citizens into their vassals and serfs.

Only a public revolt in disgust over this unconscionable behavior will stop these new conservatives from turning America into a corporate-based clone of Mussolini's feudal vision. As Longfellow reminds us, "In the hour of darkness and peril and need/The people will waken and listen to hear.."

It is again that hour, and now is the time for we, the rabble, to re-awaken our fellow citizens.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:22 PM
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39. This is an incredibly important article.
Thank you for posting it, and, welcome to DU, aaronbav.



Thom Hartmann is one of the clearest and most insightful voices of truth that we have with us today. He communicates in a way that people understand and can relate to their own lives with what they are seeing and hearing in this madness that is late 2009. Thom has been a teacher for many people, for many years.



A few more clips from this 2002 Hartmann piece, and it remains the absolute truth today:



.....

Let's be blunt. The real agenda of the new conservatives is nothing less than the destruction of democracy in the United States of America. And feudalism is one of their weapons.

Their rallying cry is that government is the enemy, and thus must be "drowned in a bathtub." In that, they've mistaken our government for the former Soviet Union, or confused Ayn Rand's fictional and disintegrating America with the real thing.

The government of the United States is us. It was designed to be a government of, by, and for We, the People. It's not an enemy to be destroyed; it's a means by which we administer and preserve the commons that we collectively own.

Nonetheless, the new conservatives see our democratic government as the enemy. And if they plan to destroy democracy, they must have something in mind to replace it with. (Yes, I know that "democracy" and "democratic" sound too much like "Democrat," and so the Republicans want us to say that we don't live in a democracy, but, rather, a republic, which sounds more like "Republican." It was one of Newt's efforts, along with replacing phrases like "Democratic Senator" with "Democrat Senator." But Republican political correctness can take a leap: we're talking here about the survival of democracy in our constitutional republic.)

What conservatives are really arguing for is a return to the three historic forms of tyranny that the Founders and Framers identified, declared war against, and fought and died to keep out of our land. Those tyrants were kings, theocrats, and noble feudal lords.

Kings would never again be allowed to govern America, the Founders said, so they stripped the president of the power to declare war. As Lincoln noted in an 1848 letter to William Herndon: "Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object. This, our <1787> Convention understood to be the most oppressive of all Kingly oppressions; and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us."



Theocrats would never again be allowed to govern America, as they had tried in the early Puritan communities. In 1784, when Patrick Henry proposed that the Virginia legislature use a sort of faith-based voucher system to pay for "Christian education," James Madison responded with ferocity, saying government support of church teachings "will be a dangerous abuse of power." He added, "The Rulers who are guilty of such an encroachment exceed the commission from which they derive their authority, and are Tyrants. The People who submit to it are governed by laws made neither by themselves nor by an authority derived from them, and are slaves."




Corporations and their CEOs are America's new feudal lords, and the new conservatives are their obliging servants and mouthpieces. The conservative mantra is: "Less government!" But the dirty little secret of the new conservatives is that just as nature abhors a vacuum, so also do politics and power. Every time government of, by, and for We, the People is pushed out of administering some part of this nation's vast commons, corporations step in. And by swamping the United States of America in debt with so-called "tax cuts," they seek to force an increasingly desperate government to cede more and more of our commons to their corporate rule.




"Do you want government bureaucrats deciding which doctor you can see?" asked the conservatives, over and over again. As a yes/no question, the answer was pretty simple for most Americans: no. But, as is so often the case when conservatives try to influence public opinion, the true issue wasn't honestly stated.

The real question was: "Do you want government bureaucrats – who are answerable to elected officials and thus subject to the will of 'We, The People' – making decisions about your healthcare, or would you rather have corporate bureaucrats – who are answerable only to their CEOs and work in a profit-driven environment – making decisions about your healthcare?"





When Jeb Bush cut a deal with Enron to privatize the Everglades, it diminished the power of the Florida government to protect a natural resource and enhanced the power and profitability of Enron. Similarly, when politicians argue for harsher sentencing guidelines and also advocate more corporate-owned prisons, they're enhancing the power and profits of one of America's fastest-growing and most profitable remaining domestic industries: incarceration. But having government protect the quality of the nation's air and water by mandating pollution controls doesn't enhance corporate profits. Neither does single-payer health-care, which threatens insurance companies with redundancy, or requirements for local control of broadcast media. In these and other regards, however, the government still holds the keys to the riches of the commons held in trust for us all. Riches the corporations want to convert into profits.




We remember the deals Jeb Bush and Enron were cooking up in Florida in 1999, using the Governor's office to run their scams. Enron rotted, thankfully, but Jeb Bush's stench lives on.






Richard Graulich/The Palm Beach Post

Jeb Bush, left, talks to co-founder of Amway Richard DeVos.

Jeb Bush drops in at Scripps to applaud biotech leaders, December 9, 2009



(Yeah, THAT Richard DeVos, whose daughter-in-law is Betsy DeVos, who is the sister of Erik Prince of Blackwater infamy. Jeb Bush, one of the original neoconservative founders of the Project for the New American Century loves to hang out with his corporate friends, you see.)






I hope everyone reads this Hartmann piece. It describes with laser accuracy where we are today.












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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 02:56 PM
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57. Everyone should read this
Can there really be any doubt that history will see this as an EPIC battle between a sovereign people and the corporations who are trying to turn them into peasants?

Thank you for this post.
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ArcticFox Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:04 PM
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68. What a deep slumber America has been in
Hartmann published this seven and a half years ago, yet America is still groggy.

It was some party these past few decades, huh? What? The house is on fire? Just let me snooze a little longer. . . .
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:08 PM
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69. Thom Hartmann is rapidly growing on me... thanks to Free Speech TV!
I find myself tuning into his show more and more!
Thanks for sharing this- he is so correct in this analysis.
Which, when you consider the implications and the fact that
the majority of Americans still have no clue, is pretty damned depressing.
BHN
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:21 PM
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72. You really should post that by itself in Editorials.
It will have a longer lifespan, and more people will see it!

Great article, and welcome to DU.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:59 AM
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27. K & R! nt
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:39 AM
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28. kick and recommend
Nicely organized and to the point. Thank you.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:05 AM
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29. Kill it!
Let the Teabaggers win this one and force the Republicans run on the Teabagger platform during the midterms.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:14 AM
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30. let's MANDATE everyone have credit cards for emergencies, who cares what it costs

that's not our problem

and MANDATE everyone buy at least one home - that ought to take care of the homeless crisis too
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:16 AM
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31. Hmph. I think the battle ended a long time ago.
Democracy lost.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:39 PM
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45. +1.
:-(
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:19 AM
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33. Corporatization usually wins until people rise up
and I dont see people rising up much. maybe they are at that point where they are so tired they cannot lift even one leg.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:26 AM
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34. I said this a month ago, because I seen where it was headed.
This Bill is the worst possible thing that could happen to the American People now and for REAL Health Care Reform.

They do NOT need this SHIT Bill to regulate what the Insurance Industry does to pre-existing conditions and insurance price controls. To claim that they need this alleged "reform" to regulate that is the biggest fraud perpetrated on the American People.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:29 AM
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35. TLDR - that battle was fought a long time ago, and democracy lost. (nt)
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:14 PM
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36. Battle? Where? Who's fighting?
Clue me in please.

All I see is a corporate takeover, a fait accompli.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:17 PM
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37. I agree, as much as it hurts, because I am in the dreaded 50-55 age group
and have no insurance, and haven't seen a doctor in nearly 5 years because of it.

SINGLE. PAYER. NOW.

MEDICAL CARE FOR ALL. NOW.

Kill the bill.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:31 PM
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40. it takes two to battle.
there is no democracy in this farce.
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icee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:31 PM
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41. I just got this from someone at Political Hardball. I think this is
Howard Dean's brother. The dude at PH did not leave me the link, which I am trying to get now. I'm getting on my phones and fax machines now.

However did we get into a mess like this? Is the System incapable of dealing with the obvious?
===================================================================

'll get straight to the point.

If Democrats remove the choice of a public option, they can't force Americans to buy health insurance.

Here's the deal, Senate leaders are all over Washington claiming they finally have a healthcare reform bill they can pass, as long as they remove the public option. After all, they say, even without a public option, the bill still "covers 30 million more Americans." The problem is that's not really true.

What they are actually talking about is something called the "individual mandate." That's a section of the law that requires every single American buy health insurance or break the law and face penalties and fines. So, the bill doesn't actually "cover" 30 million more Americans -- instead it makes them criminals if they don't buy insurance from the same companies that got us into this mess.

A public option would have provided the competition needed to drive down costs and improve coverage. It would have kept insurance companies honest by providing an affordable alternative Americans can trust. That's why, without a public option, this bill is almost a trillion dollar taxpayer giveaway to insurance companies.

We must act fast. Both Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid and Democratic Senators need to hear from you. Please stop whatever else you are doing and make the calls right now.

Senator Harry Reid
DC: (202) 224-3542
Carson City: (775) 882-7343
Las Vegas: (702) 388-5020
Reno: (775) 686-5750

Call your Democratic Senator too -- Senate Switchboard: (202) 224-3121

REPORT YOUR CALL AND TELL US HOW IT WENT

Without the choice of a public option, forcing Americans to buy health insurance isn't just bad policy, it's political disaster for Democrats -- a ticking time-bomb for years to come.

Does anyone think Republicans won't use this against Democrats in 2010?

What about in 2014 after the mandate goes into effect and the press reports all the horror stories of Americans forced to choose between paying their monthly health insurance bill to Aetna or paying rent?

The mandate is toxic and Democrats will own it. By the 2016 presidential election, is there any wonder how this will play out for Democrats?

CALL SENATOR HARRY REID NOW AT (202) 224-3542 THEN REPORT YOUR CALL HERE

The message is simple: No public option? No Mandate!

Thank you for everything you do,

-Jim

Jim Dean, Chair
Democracy for America


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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:34 PM
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42. K&R! If "our" president actually worked for us,
he would do exactly what your last line states: "Mr. President, declare a state of emergency in our failed health care system; sign an Executive Order declaring that Medicare is hereby opened to everyone, effective in 2010."

That is inarguably what is best for the citizens of this country, yet there are so few voices from our "representation" in DC in favor. Gee, I wonder who the rest work for??
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:48 PM
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46. An incredibly important article/OP.

Another kick so more people can read this.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:49 PM
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47. Now, a third major error by President Obama rips our country apart.
1. Retaining Goldman Sachs honchos to manage the Wall Street-induced economic meltdown, accelerated by George W. Bush, Inc. over the past eight years.

2. Perpetuating the travesties of the illegal wars started by George W. Bush.


3. Throwing universal, single payer health care for all Americans off the cliff.




And all of these egregious decisions, in the face of control of the White House, the US Senate and the US House of Representatives, and buoyed by the will of The People.



Mr. President, I don't know who or what is holding you hostage from making a difference in the lives of the people of this country.


As it stands now, we are on a collision course with utter catastrophe.






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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:54 PM
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53. My worst fear about Obama was that he'd turn out to be a GOP Trojan Horse.

I'm afraid this fear has pretty much materialized at this point. This is not just another Clinton-style DLC'ism, these are some outright backstabbing Republican policies.

Another major concern is the (so-called) Entitlement Reform. So far there are some serious indications that Obama will "succeed" in cutting Social Security and Medicare in the way that no Republican politician could ever get away with or hope for. x(

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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 03:16 PM
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59. There appears to be a lot of them in office at this time...
Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 03:17 PM by winyanstaz
blue dog republican wolves in sheep dem's clothing...
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dreamnightwind Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 03:24 PM
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61. Agreed
Trojan horse indeed (though I think it's exactly what the Clinton-style DLC is all about, and in fact Obama's a slightly less hawkish version of that beast).

I also agree that we haven't even begun to see the extent of Obama's corporate "centrism" yet, and so-called entitlement reform is another shoe waiting to drop. I share your fear that he'll be able to succeed on these issues where someone like Bush couldn't, just because the left (especially the huge sheeple portion of the left) have a harder time identifying the knife when it's wielded by someone with a D after his/her name.

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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 03:46 PM
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64. exactly.

Well said! :thumbsup:
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:20 PM
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71. The first red flag for me was naming Rahm Emanuel as Chief of Staff.
Then it was shunting aside Paul Volcker and Austan Goolsbee as top economic advisers and elevating Larry Summers, Tim Geithner, Robert Rubin and other Clinton advisers instead.

Then it was when he went out of his way to ignore the opinions of people such as Elizabeth Warren, Robert Reich and Paul Krugman.



Then it was the stealth decision to shut out any discussion, consideration or input by single payer health care advocates.


After all, these were the words of this president in 2003:


"I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program...I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that's what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that's what I'd like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House." - Barack Obama, 2003




And still, we wait.



And I still don't see anything now except this same sea of red flags, only it is expanding.



Betrayal of core democratic principles is a bitter pill indeed.








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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:26 PM
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75. I saw it during the election in his economic team.
Why in the world would anyone let Larry Summers and Bob Rubin anywhere near their campaign?

As top policy advisers. The cat was crawling out of the bag then.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:23 PM
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87. That was the final signal to me as well. n/t
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:08 PM
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48. Is ANYBODY Out There? Is ANYBODY Listening?
I guess not, and I don't think they have been for such a very long time. Worse yet, I DON'T think they will or even care!!

I wonder sometimes if anybody else feels a "trembling" beneath their feet, like something is in the air, or that something is about to explode?

I KNOW, sounds melodramadic... but then!!!
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:21 PM
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49. Time Mag Man of Yr: Ben Bernanke (translation: greed is good)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:35 PM
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51. You're right. And "we the people" should not have to battle
corporate interests.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:36 PM
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52. K&R!
:applause:
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 03:14 PM
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58. If Obama was for the people..he would refuse to sign it....
And as this is an act of terror ..why are the criminals not arrested already for even trying this?
American citizens are going to die if this is the new law. This is terror to them and their families...and to the rest of us as well.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 03:21 PM
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60. This is an "EPIC" battle
Fantastic posts and thread. This is the real thing.

Here are my thoughts:

What we have been experiencing is classic Chicago School Economics: privatization, cuts to social services, deregulation, tax cuts for the wealthy. Naomi Klein describes how it has been employed eloquently in “The Shock Doctrine.” September 11th, 2001 provided the shock, and then while the people are stunned the Disaster Capitalists move in and take advantage of the situation. Reagan used the Recession of the 1970s and fear of godless communism the same way. On a smaller scale, Katrina was used to “clean up” New Orleans. Bush/Cheney tried and bungled it in Iraq. The military coups supported by the U.S. in Indonesia (1964) and Chile (1973) are two more examples. And it's happening in Honduras right now.

The Elite expect unrest as things go bad. They are prepared for it. They have police forces and a military programmed to support the status quo—the rule of law—laws conveniently crafted to protect the interests of the Elite. In response to civil unrest, there is increased use of the police to suppress dissent. Witness the use of tear gas, rubber bullets and LRAD weapons to prevent citizens in Philadelphia from exercising their right to assemble during the G20 Summit in Philadelphia. Witness the arrests of thousands as hundreds of thousands are protesting in Copenhagen.

The “government” that we are complaining about is supposed to be us—“we the people” are sovereign. That we see a difference between citizens and the government is proof that we the people are no longer in control. The nation has been taken over by corporate interests. Regardless of who the people elect, they end up controlled by corporations once they are in office, if they were not already.

That status quo—non-representative government masquerading as a democratic republic—is entrenched. Those who benefit from it will not give up their plutocracy without a fight. This battle will be painful. The corporations have succeeded in making the people dependent upon them for their welfare—we cannot hurt the corporations without inflicting injury upon ourselves in the process. Are we capable of enduring that pain?

But it can be waged with nonviolent methods; at least it still can at this point. Boycotts, demonstrations, civil disobedience, general strikes…

United we stand; divided we continue to get screwed.

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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 03:51 PM
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65. Great post, Goldstein1984, and spot on. Our entire government has been stolen from us.
This is going to be a protracted, brutal fight to separate Corporations from the levers of governmental power.... power that rightfully belongs to the people of this country.


Our system is broken. As it stands now, our current president's efforts are woefully inadequate, whether by circumstances or by design, to address this failure.


America is waking up very fast. And there is a level of anger out here that nothing in the ensconced corporate arsenal will defeat.


See you on the battlefield.




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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:34 PM
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77. +1000
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:31 PM
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76. Never thought I would say this...
I wish the Teabaggers had succeeded. I would rather have no bill, than the one proposed.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:51 PM
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79. We need to do everything we can to stop this sellout...
We need to find a LOUD voice and make our feelings known.

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Techn0Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:05 PM
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81. Recommended but isn't it funny how Big Business got what it wanted all along?
NO health care reform. And now WE have to work to kill a bill that makes it even worse for us?
Those fat cats must be laughing away in their Clubhouses like madmen.

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:09 PM
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92. At the expense of we, the people again...
:argh:
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dreamnightwind Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:46 PM
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82. thanks for the 11 summary points
The summary points you posted turned out to be perfect to look at as I phoned my senators and congresswoman, good job, things like this can make a difference.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:49 PM
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83. K&R n/t
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:12 PM
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85. "ign an Executive Order declaring that Medicare is hereby opened to everyone, effective in 2010." +1
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undergroundnomore Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:37 PM
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88. Sadly, in the meantime
people are dying because they lack healthy care. This bill was supposed to be about the people not about corporations. I feel like I've been sucker punched.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:27 PM
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90. This is the humiliation
the repugs were working for.

The United States of AIG was born today
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:22 PM
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93. K & R.
This bill is nothing more than MORE corporate welfare.
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:10 PM
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98. knr. Looks like big Pharma got what they were promised by Obama, Rahm, etc
in July, during those not so transparent meetings. So, Obama, is all going according to plan?
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