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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:19 PM
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Pelosi, Reid, Obama will go down in history as the Dem "leaders" that let the middle class die.
All of the gains fought for and won for the working person. Gone.

Generations before us put their lives on the line to unionize and fight for a fairer livlihood.

The big 3, our fearless leaders, are sitting on their hands as America crashes into a state of serfdom and indetured servitude.

That's quite an achievement- FUCKING NOT!

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DontTreadOnMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:26 PM
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1. There is plenty of blame to go around
BUT I TOTALLY AGREE.

There will be three people in the end that get blamed -- Reid will get thrown out first. Pelosi legacy will be "didn't get it done"

But Obama will take the biggest hit. HilliaryCare? ObamaCare? Nobody blames the House and Senate for the Clinton's not passing HCR.
Same thing will happen to Obama.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:33 PM
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7. Moderate from what party? You needn't answer. We know. NT
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:35 PM
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:36 PM
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12. Yeah, I am one. Too bad you aren't. NT
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ShadDogPt Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:38 PM
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16. You are not even 10% JFK Democrat. NT
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:35 PM
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9. Rethug moderate? no thanks. nt
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:36 PM
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11. All the progressives you ran out of the party.
That is what we will have left.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:37 PM
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13. If you're a moderate, I'm Jesus Christ.
And I just tried to turn some water into wine and it didn't work, so I guess I ain't Him.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:37 PM
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14. Welcome to DU! Everyone I know supports REAL health care reform.
Of course, we don't control the media message or skewed polls.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:28 PM
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3. I just gotta stand up for Pelosi & the House, they did good work here. The others......
.....not so much.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:28 PM
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4. I'll never forget Pelosi saying she wished she could have
Code Pink arrested the way the police arrest homeless people.

That was it for me with that one.
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:33 PM
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8. Pelosi has been nothing but a disgrace... nt
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mullard12ax7 Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:38 PM
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15. They have time to change history's course, but not much before economic ruin
They won't be the people who actually change anything though, the outraged and unrepresented majority of Americans have had enough. Watch Bill Moyer's program from Friday to find out what really works to bring change in America.
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:04 AM
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17. Problem is there is nothing before congress ATM theat reverses the dreadful course we're on.
Thanks for the reminder, love Moyers.

Peace
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WeCanWorkItOut Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:06 AM
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18. But Pelosi-types and the unions have been part of the health inflation problem
For half a century and more, we've had serious problems with medicine,
overpriced and elitist. But the union answer has just been:
get the company to pay for it. Let's not worry about
WHY health care costs so much. We're trusting types.
We'll just sacrifice wages and vacations, no problem.

This, of course, has suited the doctors just fine.
I recall Uwe Reinhardt talking about price transparency.
and doctors and hospitals never wanting to post prices,
because their attitude was, "Just respect us and pay!"

The unions really need less respect for the medical industry,
less respect for what their elitist advisors tell them.
They need more self-respect, more work at bringing medical prices down,
and not the reckless, bought-off activity Congress is up to now.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:12 AM
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19. Our political landscape is going to go through a major upheaval.
no thanks to our "friends" in the senate and house.

"things" won't settle for many years to come.

As the middle class gets squeezed even harder at the expense of the rich, people will yell louder and louder. Regardless of political party.

We are seeing the beginning of what I feel is a shift in how we do government in this nation.

10-15 years from now, we won't be able to recognize our government from the one we have today.
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