The Republicans have exactly one goal: regaining power. Shouldn't this be a time to KEEP POWER?

[HopeHoops]

I find the GOP unity in opposition to everything to be far beyond simply disgusting. But we have a fragile advantage, if there really is one, and letting them gain control again is unthinkable. I'm amazed that we have recovered even as little as we have after the damage Bush inflicted. They're well organized and aiming for gains in 2012. We need our own unity if we are to hold them off and perhaps even make our own gains.

The Republicans have no concern for us, the country, or anything "patriotic". All they care about is power. If we're going to improve the country and reverse the damage from the BushCo years, we need to swallow a few tough pills (which apparently won't be imported from Canada) and try to stick together.

:rant:

[timeforpeace]

1. Our enormous majorities in the House and Senate are not "fragile advantages". Plus they have no

power that our side doesn't grant them. Worry less about them than the independents who determine elections and may not like what they are seeing from us.

[redqueen]

3. Enormous majority in the Senate?

FFS

[HopeHoops]

7. I certainly wouldn't call it "enormous", but the "our side doesn't grant them" is exactly my point.

What majority we do have is very fragile precisely because so called "Democrats" DO grant the Republicans control - and Traitor Joe is one of them.

[emulatorloo]

9. We don't have an enormous majority in the Senate. We need some good Dems to replace

Lieberman, Lincoln, Nelson, etc.

Those folks will not vote with the Dems on cloture. I

[debbierlus]

2. Keep power? We don't have any power to keep. These democrats don't represent us

If you mean, playing a game of pretent where we think we have representation because the politician bear the D after their name, that is a game that we can't win.

[Mari333]

4. seems to me like the same corporate pimps own both parties

[jotsy]

14. Corporations are the johns, congress is what's full of pimps

because we're getting screwed and their making money from it!

The right wing thinks if people are disenchanted with dems that they're the only other game in town, but I saw a piece, I believe it was at Alternet, suggesting that only one in five admit to being a member of either party. Independent reps are what I see as a good way to break the two party stranglehold.

[BlueCaliDem]

5. They can only win by default, i.e. if "independents" and liberals stay home and pout

because they didn't get their way moments after Pres. Obama's inauguration.

Doing that would allow a sweep of repubs back into the very government they claim to abhor, but can't seem to quit. Their numb-brained constituents are exactly like their pols: lockstep. That's the danger here.

[emulatorloo]

10. Teabaggers will be out in full force, that is for sure.

[BlueCaliDem]

12. No doubt about it. Now is NOT the time to sulk about the lack of progress

because progress is still being made under this Congress and this President.

It'll all come to a grinding halt the moment the repubs win power by default and we get another corporate Cheney.

[Mz Pip]

6. Power is only useful

when it is used. I don't see the Democrats using their power to help the people who elected them. They are using their power to feed the coffers of their coporate sponsors. Maybe not all of them, but Isure don't see a lot of arm twisting going on by the liberal Democrats to make these Blue Dogs change their tune.

We've already got the power. IT's time to use it or lose it. And lose it we will if the Democrats don't deliver. They will lose the base, the independents and probably a lot of the moderates as well.

[Kermitt Gribble]

8. So we should vote in lockstep like the imbecile repubs?

Just keep voting against our best interests and perpetuate the corporate state? Got it.:puke:

[HopeHoops]

15. Oh get real. It isn't about "voting in lockstep", it is about working together.

They spend too much time stating ultimatums to the press and not enough time cooperating to reach an agreement. I'll agree with the "puke" on the "lockstep" thing, but that has nothing to do with the need to stick together.

[Kermitt Gribble]

16. We've been working together.

The party has been united since 2000. We were working together to win a majority in 2006. We were working together to expand that majority and win the presidency in 2008. The Party can't keep expecting support from a block of voters when those voters don't get any representation in return.

[Zodiak]

11. Dont' care...and neither do the Democrats

Or they would not be cutting off their supporters at the knees to placate the corporations.

Under those circumstances, the Democrats do not deserve power. They cannot govern.

Of course, neither do the Republicans because they cannot govern, either.

The Republicans CAN electioneer, and with the Democrats cutting their own base off at the knees, it just got a lot easier for the Republicans.

You cannot convince people they need to vote for Democrats when the Democrats make a show of pissing on the people that presumably trust and need them the most.

There will be muted voting on the Democratic side in 2010 and 2012 if this keeps up, and it is DESERVED.

If we get Republican rule and more disaster, it will be the DEMOCRATS fault. The same fault they never took the blame for in 2000 and 1994, passing it off on "liberals" and ignoring their own cowardice.

[David Zephyr]

13. Power for what? To enslave Americans to more corporate control?

I understand where you are coming from, but what good has this "power" done for the people?