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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:09 PM
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Tiger Woods: wife Elin Nordegren 'has decided to divorce him'
The former Swedish swimwear model is “not going to be one of these 'stand by your man’ women”, an unnamed friend told the US television news station MSNBC.

“She’s a strong woman, this is beyond embarrassing, and she has a daughter and son she has to think about, who will know about this one day.”

Another unidentified source told People magazine that Miss Nordegren - whose wedding ring has been noticeably absent from her finger in recent public appearances - had already met a divorce lawyer to discuss her pre-nuptial agreement.

The friend added: “She’s made up her mind. There’s nothing to think about: he’s never going to change.”

A removals van took away some carefully wrapped pieces of art on Wednesday from the Woods family home in Florida.

Woods, 33, has had his private and professional life shattered after at least 14 women, including two porn stars, have been identified as former lovers. He has admitted infidelity and withdrawn from international golf indefinitely.

It has also been claimed that Woods “bought the silence” of several girlfriends by regularly sending them thousands of dollars.

According to MSNBC, several unnamed women said Woods gave them monthly sums ranging from $5,000 to $10,000 (£3,050 to £6,100), with some believed to have received as much as $20,000.

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In a potential further embarrassment for Woods, the sportswear company Puma is reported to be in “internal discussions” with Miss Nordegren with a view to her to becoming a spokesman for Tretorn, its new Swedish-inspired shoe and clothing line.

Such a move would pit her directly against her husband, who is still sponsored by Nike, Puma’s main rival.

A Puma spokesman was quoted as saying she was a “good brand fit”. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/golf/tigerwoods/6827793/Tiger-Woods-wife-Elin-Nordegren-has-decided-to-divorce-him.html
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:10 PM
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1. She's a very smart woman.
:thumbsup:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:31 PM
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87. Why?
She married the asshole.
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MrsMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:57 PM
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93. Fool me once, shame on you
fool me twice, shame on me.

She learned the first time. Better track record than most.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:27 PM
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105. She's not waiting around for more of Tiger's bs.
She's not sticking in a sham marriage. It's certainly been a sham to Tiger who thought his marriage vows were just suggestions.

She's not saying to herself "I can change him". She's recognizing that he probably won't change and she's getting on with her life.
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Luciferous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:11 PM
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2. Good for her!
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:12 PM
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146. And good for him too.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:11 PM
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3. Good for her! But that Puma deal might make it hard for her to get away...
...from this mess.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:12 PM
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4. Good for her. His upping the $ amount for her to stay was degrading - if she'd taken it. nt
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:19 PM
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9. Yeah, okay, so how much will she take in the divorce to
not be degraded?

:shrug:

How many tens of millions of dollars should she get for being married for five long years?

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:22 PM
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14. He supposedly offerred her $80m. The pre-nup is for $20m. If you don't understand...
Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 04:24 PM by Captain Hilts
what's repulsive about that, then you need help.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:48 PM
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37. It's not about the # of years they were married.
It's about her and the children having to be tested repeatedly (for years) for sexually transmitted diseases he may have subjected her to. It's about the public humiliation. It's about a lot a things you seem to fail to understand, but it's not about the length of the marriage.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:05 PM
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80. half. he broke the agreement. now it is 50/50 dude. partners. what happens
when you say "i do"
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:39 PM
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28. Right, but the $20 million isn't degrading in the least!
She, uh, *earned* that $20 million, I guess?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:43 PM
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33. At this point, yes.
Two kids.
STD risks.
Being played for a chump through her whole marriage to "Mr. Clean."
Public embarrassment.

Yeah, she's earned it. And, no, it's probably not worth it.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:45 PM
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35. That sounds fairly degrading too. So why would taking more money for more of the same
be degrading in a way that the aforementioned would not?

"And, no, it's probably not worth it."

A lot of women get far worse for far less. It's hard to see her as a victim. :shrug:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:59 PM
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44. You don't see her as any kind of victim??? I'm glad I'm not married to you.
Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 04:59 PM by Captain Hilts
The STD risk he introduced to her, alone, makes her a victim.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:07 PM
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46. A woman who signs a $20 million prenup is NOT a victim in my world.
She got the value of her bargain, as you yourself mentioned. If she wanted more, she should've negotiated for more. :shrug:

Just why you think making an additional deal would be "degrading" in a way that her first deal did not is what is a mystery to me.

"The STD risk he introduced to her, alone, makes her a victim"

Which is why she herself negotiated a $20 million dollar liquidated damages clause to her marriage contract--she anticipated just this sort of eventuality.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:30 PM
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52. She catches AIDS or some other STD, she is. Some things have no price. nt
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:37 PM
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55. She could sue him separately if she got AIDS. Like it or not, she negotiated this outcome
Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 05:37 PM by Romulox
before she got married. That means she had just this set of facts in mind before even getting married and decided that X number of dollars made the risk acceptable to her.

So now she gets her X million dollars. It's what she bargained for, and she's a wealthy woman. And we're staying up nights worried about her here why, again?
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:43 PM
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61. Most pre-nups are to protect the person
who comes in to the marriage WITH money - to prevent "gold-digging" short term spouses from walking away with half of the estate to which they contributed little or nothing. I highly doubt she negotiated a $20 million dollar liquidated damages clause - it was more likely that Tiger negotiated that was the most he would be obligated to pay regardless of how much he deserved to have his clock cleaned.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:50 PM
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68. Nonsense. A court would've enforced a pre nup if it said ZERO dollars.
So of course her lawyers negotiated the number up from there (you do know that prenups aren't enforceable unless she is independentally represented, right?)

So why is it so important to characterize a woman who saw an opportunity, took a risk, and got paid more than any of us will make in our lives as a "victim"?

It sucks that Tiger cheated on her, and I would never cheat on my wife. But she's a pretty young RICH woman who can do anything she wants with the rest of her life. She is NOT a victim. Just a person going through some interpersonal issues best left between she and her soon to be ex-husband.
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:04 PM
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78. Didn't say it wouldn't - just that the motivation for prenups,
by and large, comes from the person who comes into the marriage with money.

The agreement was designed to protect Tiger's fortune for himself - not to create a liquidated damages provision for her. If there is going to be a pre-nup regardless of her reasons for marrying him in the first place (and with someone with as many financial assets as Tiger has there will be), it would be stupid not to include an amount large enough to make a graceful transition from her life with him to one without him - and one which is large enough to make him think twice about about trying to make the marriage work rather than dumping her (or behaving in such a way that makes her want to dump him).

The fact that she did not agree to accept $0 in the pre-nup does not transform her from marrying for love into someone "seeing an opportunity" and taking a calculated business risk.

As to cheating on her and interpersonal issues - you obviously have not watched close friends or loved ones go through testing after potential exposure to, infection with, or death from AIDS. That exposure - which is certainly a higher risk because of Tiger's reported sexual encounters with porn stars, goes well beyond interpersonal issues.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #68
89. You got a source for that?
Seems against public policy.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:48 PM
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64. What does that $20 million break down to on a per-night basis?**nm
**
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:52 PM
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70. Well, Tiger got the value of his bargain, too. Don't feel sorry for any of the Woods clan. nt
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:32 AM
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126. Let's see how much does Tiger get paid per night**?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:54 PM
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72. Wow...
.. the prenup was for Tiger's benefit, without it she'd be entitled to many many times more than 20 million.

She IS the victim here. If I were Tiger I'd be acting like a dog too, but the difference is I wouldn't pledge faithfulness to a wife.

He's wrong and he's getting what he has coming.

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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:59 PM
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75. Nope. A prenup that said she gets what she brought to the marriage is perfectly enforceable.
:hi:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:05 PM
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97. She's filing for divorce in California
where they also own a home. California laws entitle her to half his assets, I believe. She's getting herself a very good lawyer too.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:10 PM
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100. Exactly what did she bring to the marriage?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:16 PM
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102. What kind of question is that?
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:16 AM
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112. Doesn't matter, what did he bring? His ego?
:)
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:28 AM
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114. His extreme earning power, for one
Like it or not, the guy is capable of making a massive amount of money.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:54 AM
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117. Try asking her (soon to be ex) husband that
HE doesn't want the divorce - he wants to make up and 'save the marriage'. What indeed did she bring to the marriage.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:06 AM
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118. nice, i hope she scores the 50%
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:00 AM
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129. California enforces prenuptial agreements. She won't "score" 50%.
:eyes:
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:49 AM
Response to Reply #46
116. Not everything is about money.
But then, I don't expect you to believe that.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:58 AM
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128. Umm, Elin Nordgren and her lawyers are the ones who put the dollar figure on it.
LOL. So wrapped up in this women being a victim that we must pretend that she has no moral agency in any of this... :shrug:
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:15 AM
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131. Yes, I'm "so wrapped up" in this whole situation
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 11:16 AM by lukasahero
as evidenced by this being my second, or possibly third, post on the matter. As opposed to say, you, who seems to find any opportunity to deem a woman a whore an irresistible pleasure.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:22 AM
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132. At least you came out and said it.
"As opposed to say, you, who seems to find any opportunity to deem a woman a whore an irresistible pleasure."

What are you talking about? I said this woman made her choices with eyes wide open and is not to be pitied. The "whore" thing is an invention of your mind.

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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:13 AM
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111. I would easily take him for half if he were my husband.....
plus I would want the amounts he paid his girlfriends reimbursed to me and my kids.

With interest.

She's not a victim, she has no choice but to divorce him. His behaviour was beyond outrageous.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #111
130. Not if you had signed a well written prenup, you wouldn't. nt
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:13 PM
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153. "Taking Him"?
Well, that's enlightened. If she's REALLY the no nonsense gal people are trying to make her seem she'll take sensible child support and just say no to any of his zillions. Now that's a class act. "Taking him" just meets his boorish, stereotypical behavior with her own boorish, stereotypical behavior.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:03 PM
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151. Why Would She
be embarrassed? Did she do something wrong? Unless she buys that whole - My husband played around, I must have done something wrong, bull
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:37 PM
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106. To paraphrase the great Richard Pryor..."I didn't see her playing no fucking golf"
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:30 AM
Response to Reply #28
123. I hope she gets $500 million
for all the crap she has gone through.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:13 PM
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5. Good. She and Jenny Sanford should go celebrate.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:14 PM
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6. I stood by X when she cheated on me several times
And in the end it got me no where.

Part of it was related to her mental state and her disease, but in the end she made her choices.

I don't blame her for leaving, it is best for her.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:15 PM
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7. Sounds like the right move on her part.
That level of unfaithfulness is completely out of hand. I don't see how anyone with any self-respect could stay in the relationship. I can understand forgiving a one-time thing, but not this regular philandering.

Tiger's lost all of my respect, and it will never return. He is a bad person.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:16 PM
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8. Good for her.
I hope she has a good lawyer. I did not know there was a prenup.

She and her twin bought a house in Sweeden.

I wouldn't stay with that bum either. It's embarrassing.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:19 PM
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10. Good for her.
All the best.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:20 PM
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11. Well, she will be a zillionaire without a cheating husband. No loss
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:22 PM
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12. I'm sorry that this has happened, but I think Elin has made the right choice.
You can perhaps excuse an affair if you love someone enough, but with this many women, Tiger is just a whore. His wife seems to be a nice person, I can't imagine what the hell is wrong with Tiger.

What a shame, so much talent and he throws it all away. He'll always be identified by his actions, he'll never be able to leave it behind.
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:24 PM
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15. Well
I can understand why she wants out.
I would too.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:27 PM
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20. Personally, I think there are a lot of men like Tiger who fool around.
What Tiger has is many more opportunities to fool around than normal men, and I'm sure - in addition - his share of groupies.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:11 PM
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101. Many man fool around...they just hide it better..
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:22 PM
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13. Puma, huh?
here's some background music for her Puma spots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmGgQ8fvIP8
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:24 PM
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16. Does Tiger endorse Mercury?
He's been in a lot of cougars lately....
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:25 PM
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17. I DON'T CARE!
Thank goddess for the "hide" feature on this POLITICAL BOARD.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:53 PM
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150. Gotta unrec the "Tiger" threads eom
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:26 PM
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18. Probably a smart move. He's not marriage material, that's obvious.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:27 PM
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19. A wise decision. He was never in the marriage for love. She's still young and can find true love..nt
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:28 PM
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21. The money will - ironically - make it more difficult for her.
Though of course she can't turn it down.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:30 PM
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23. Turn it down?!?
:rofl:

Who has ever done that???
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:32 PM
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26. lol, obviously.
:rofl: I just mean, it will be difficult to determine (from her perspective) who is after her money and who really loves her for HER. Some people say you can't separate those facts. I don't know, perhaps she's learned how to weed out gold-digging men? I wish her the best.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:32 PM
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25. She will have to be more careful, this is true
But the lessons learned from being fooled by Tiger Woods will help her immensely.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:40 PM
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30. The poor dear! nt
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:52 PM
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40. Oh and I'm sure she married a fabulously rich celebrity for love too. NT
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:25 PM
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49. So, you know for a certainty that she did not love him?
Elin Nordegren was a nanny when she met Tiger Woods. She worked for another pro golfer. He pursued her, not the other way around. She, from all appearances, has been a supportive, faithful, loving wife, gave him two gorgeous kids, and stayed out of the spotlight.

Let me get this straight here: You (and others on this website,) believe that the "forsaking all others" stuff in the marriage ceremony only applies to those who are not famous?



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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:11 AM
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113. I'm responding to a person who claimed to know HE did not.
What better way to show the silliness of an argument than to make an exactly equivalent conclusion that the original would find insupportable?

I would have thought it was obvious.

Since when did women "give" children by the way? It's kind of a double act you know.

The only serious point I would make is that I will always be skeptical of gorgeous people who only ever seem to find the wealthy, powerful and famous people suitable to fall in love with. There are better looking men than Woods on every corner (no I'm not one - jealousy is not my motive), and obviously more valuable marriage material everywhere too.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:57 PM
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140. Wow. Your intellect is truly dizzying.
>What better way to show the silliness of an argument than to make an exactly equivalent conclusion that the original would find insupportable?<

Your response intimated that you had some type of personal knowledge. I responded to it. And again -- how do you know how Elin Nordegren felt about her husband prior to this event?

>Since when did women "give" children by the way? It's kind of a double act you know.<

She carried and gave birth to both of those kids. He donated sperm to the effort. Reminds me of the chicken and the pig -- for one it's a slight inconvenience, for the other, it's a sacrifice. This also doesn't remove the very real fact that she, from all externals, was a loving and faithful wife; he didn't believe the marriage vows were something he needed to uphold.

>The only serious point I would make is that I will always be skeptical of gorgeous people who only ever seem to find the wealthy, powerful and famous people suitable to fall in love with.<

Too bad she didn't call you before they started dating. I'm sure you would have set her straight.

:eyes:

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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:44 PM
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143. Yours is truly dizzy.
Did you not even see the post I responded to? Do you not see the obvious and exact parallel? Really?

I'm sure she'll be OK, and I am sure that her next paramour will be at least close to the same level of wealth and fame as her last.
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slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:10 PM
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48. Did she marry for love? Hello pre-nump!
This was an investment to her. nothing more, nothing less.
It was a business relationship for both of them.

Thier contract sounds like my freakin' company's stock option plan.

I feel bad for the kids.


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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:41 PM
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59. It is typically the rich party who insists on the pre-nup.
But regardless, I don't think having a prenup when at least one party IS a big business means anything about either of them. It makes things less problematic if the relationship ends than having two people fight over every detail.

You sound so sure about her... I find that kind of amusing. Can someone NOT love a rich person? Can only poor people fall in love? has she done anything to publicly harm him prior to being run through hell by him? Seems likely to me that they had a real relationship and he just fucked it up.... literally.
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:50 PM
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67. Prenups protect those who come into the marriage with money -
not those who don't. Sounds like a stock option plan because it was almost certainly drafted by Tiger's financial advisors and attorneys to minimize the potential loss to him.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:31 AM
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124. If that is the case Tiger broke the contract and he needs to pay.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:23 PM
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147. LOL You guys are killing me.
She gets what's in the pre-nup. If he wants to give more, he can, but otherwise she gets whats in the pre-nup.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:29 PM
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22. Sounds smart to me. n/t
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:30 PM
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24. I suppose she is to blame for all this
I kid.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:33 PM
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27. Good for her..one or two slips..may be forgiveable...double digits? Not so much...
...Guy should never have gotten married if he wanted to screw around that much..

Total douchebag..
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:40 PM
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29. I unrecced this as I'm sick of hearing about it. nt
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:41 PM
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31. And I just recd it to cancel yours out...
:P
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:44 PM
Original message
I don't think you understand how the rec system works... nt
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:08 PM
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81. Curiously
for someone so sick of it you sure spend a lot of time opinionating on it.
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MrsMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:18 PM
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104. ha ha - he/she is quite the bloviator on the subject. nt
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:16 AM
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121. Heheh. Well said...nt
Sid
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:42 PM
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32. I don't understand why it took her so long.
I was having trouble believing she would actually stay.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:51 PM
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39. I think any woman confronted with something as horrible as she has gone thru....
.....should weigh her options carefully and without irrational thought (which would have been the case if she did this right after she found out).

I don't think there is any doubt in my mind that she was going to dump him but I believe there is a pre-nup involved plus which state to file. Things like this take time to consider her best course of action. Personally I hope the judges through out the pre-nup. Elin lived up to her vows in the marriage and yet he cheated horribly on her and made a mockery of their vows. I hope she cleans him up for everything she can.

I read where she will be filing in California where she has the best chance of overturning the pre-nup.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:06 PM
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141. I guess pre-nups are going to need a new clause.
"If you cheat on me, this agreement is null and void." Save a lot in court time.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:44 PM
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34. ... and marry me. (n/t)
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:46 PM
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36. Tiger Woods image has been destroyed
Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 04:49 PM by quinnox
And it is all his fault. I lost all respect for him and I used to follow his golf results closely even though I have lost almost all interest in sports. But he was such a phenom in golf.

Now I consider him just another overpaid spoiled athlete who has no values and is anything but a hero or role model. It would be a shame if he breaks Nicklauses major golf titles record, what a terrible ambassador for the game Tiger would be.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:04 PM
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45. He'll get remarried and play the part of "having learned from his mistakes" and depict himself
as a devoted family man and the press will eat it up with a spoon.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:35 PM
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54. He just won the Athlete of the Decade award, and the most votes were cast AFTER this event..
so where was the image tarnished again? People care about him playing..not the wife..
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:39 PM
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57. He earned "Athlete of the Decade." It's not about his private life. nt
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:05 PM
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79. Indoor or Outdoor Athlete?
No, he's finished. His career will never be the same.

Fortunately for him, he's got plenty of money to enjoy himself with all of the thousands of women he can get.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:08 PM
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99. Kobe is man of the moment now...
and he went through much worst..
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:38 PM
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56. Yeah Sinatra never over came that lady's man image
he was ruined.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:40 PM
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58. Ava Gardner, Lauren Bacall...compared to Woods' women? Get real. nt
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:35 PM
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91. Excellent point, Cap'n
And I totally agree with you!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:14 AM
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109. Ava and Betty Bacall totally rocked. nt
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:36 AM
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115. Why not?
Ava Gardner was a drunk and slept around with a married man, and Bacall took up with Bogie when he was married.

;)
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:54 PM
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71. Add Phil Mickelson to that list too then...he's rumored to do the same thing..
the old wife cheating thing..
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #36
74. I honestly don't get that idea.
He's a good golfer.

What more is it his responsibility to be as a celebrity for his golf skills?

Why do we look to actors and sportspeople and musicians to be role models for anything but acting, spoots and music?

I started being a bodybuilder when Arnold was just starting to fade. People not into that, or not at that time, are unlikely to realize how incredibly dominant he was, and why. Moreso than Tiger Woods even - completely different level to anybody else, and never lost for nine years. It got to the point where only two competitors even signed up for a title that before and after attracted dozens of aspirants - it was a waste of their time. He was and is a misogynistic dick, self-absorbed (you kind of have to be to be that good I guess), politically doolally, and lousy husband material. Those descriptions don't cancel each other out. I'm a passionate fan of Wagner - and while his politics have been exaggerated it's inarguable he was an anti-semitic bigot. Didn't stop him writing some of the most wonderful music ever committed to manuscript. Why should it matter about Woods for his celebrity?

By all means dont marry him. Counsel your daughters to avoid men like him if they seek committed relationships. Discount his advice on marriage, but if you used to respect him for his golf ability why does his infidelity xhange that? If yiou used to respect him for his sound moral lifestyle then sure, but since when did he claim one, or was he held up as an ideal of morality? So either you respcted him for the wrong reasons initially, or should repsct him equally now.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:28 PM
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148. He'll be twice as big when this is all over. LOL
People here are dreaming.

The alpha male athlete on the planet sleeping around is like saying the sky is blue.

"He's toast", "He's done", "He's ruined himself". :rofl:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:50 PM
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38. Shocked, shocked I tell ya!!!!
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:53 PM
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41. Good for her!
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:53 PM
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42. The Subject Line is Misleading... (How credible is 'an unnamed friend told the US TV news...')
I could have made the same claim and I would have more credibility than some anonymous self-defined 'friend' who is talking with a US TV news channel.

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:53 PM
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43. $20k a month??? Tiger baby, call me!
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:09 PM
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47. I'm tired of these unnamed sources, since reportedly no-one has talked to either Elin or Tiger..
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:27 PM
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50. She married him for the money since she always
knew he was a womanizer.
Sorry to spoil the sympathy party. I'm also a wife but I've run into more than a few money hungry women who marry men with an eye on cashing in.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:32 PM
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53. My thoughts exactly...
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:45 PM
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62. Yeah, I have to agree on that. No victim there. n/t
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:03 PM
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77. I honestly don't think she knew how bad it was.
Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 06:08 PM by girl gone mad
Thus the big fight when she happened upon text messages between Tiger and a member of his harem. There appears to have been a lot of attempts made to keep her in the dark. Tiger's best friend was secretly buying plane tickets around the world for one of the "girlfriends" and Tiger left voice mail for another girl in a desperate attempt to cover his tracks ("My wife just saw your number in my cell phone and I think she may be trying to call you"). If Elin really knew, then why the big effort to hide things from her?

From appearances, Elin did want a real marriage. Until there is reason to believe otherwise, I trust her friends and family when they say she was just a normal girl from a good family who fell in love with a sleazeball.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:30 PM
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86. I agree... I have no reason to doubt her motivations
One of my vices is following celebrity gossip, and I've seen and read about a lot of "famewhores" and gold-diggers. I highly doubt Elin is one of them. She was apparently faithful to her husband, quietly and privately raised her children and never pursued the spotlight and other trappings of celebrity spouse-hood. I could be wrong, of course, but I get the feeling that she was in love with her husband and is truly devastated by all of this.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:07 PM
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98. who happen to be a gold-digger?
Truth is nobody knows, and family wouldn't do anything except back you, if they are going to be benefiting from YOUR fortune..
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:14 AM
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119. well if she was a gold digger 20m out of a billion is not a good score
she is a nice girl screwed over by an immature man
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:35 AM
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133. I'm w you....she appears to be a groupie looking for the good life
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:28 PM
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51. Good for you, Tiger.
Obviously you can do better.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:43 PM
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60. And Tiger never even got caught in a shitty diaper!
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:47 PM
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63. Great! Does this mean we will get Single Payer???
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:48 PM
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65. Who cares? People should put more effort into their own lives instead of worrying about celebrities
For fucks sake, there are so many BIGGER ISSUES that need attention.......
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:51 PM
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69. we have to worry about celebrities, it saves us from looking at out lives..
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:55 PM
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73. And that is truly sad.......
true, but sad.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:05 PM
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96. beyond sad..its pathetic...
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:16 AM
Response to Reply #65
120. please, i tried being interested in politics and,uh, thats not working out well
so celebrity gossip is my new interest
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:49 PM
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66. So it's over and we can stop posting Tiger threads?
:woohoo:
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:23 PM
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83. But but ... he is the new Michael Jackson. The masses need their soap operas nt
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:02 PM
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76. It's the smart move. Take a chunk of cash and the kids and start anew.
How could ever trust him again?

This kind of public exposure and meltdown make reconciliation almost impossible.

Dogs deserve to be kicked to the curb.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:16 PM
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82. Impressive.
I thought she'd end up making the cut, but not so quickly. Always good to see a person show self-respect, and she certainly has. :applause:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:24 PM
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84. GOOD for her!!!! nt
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:33 PM
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149. And it's even better for Tiger. Why drag out and hold onto something
that's not gonna work? This is really really good for Tiger too. Get it all over with now and be done with it.
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CANDO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:25 PM
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85. 14 or 16 other women is a sickness.
And there is no cure. Divorce his ass and make him pay....dearly.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:31 PM
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88. But if he is the sick one, why isn't anyone giving him sympathy?
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:34 AM
Response to Reply #88
127. Because he enjoys his sickness and makes no effort an wellness, and
instead endangers and hurts his wife and family.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:34 PM
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90. Most women don't want to be known for an affair with a married man.
If fourteen women have come forward, then the total number is probably a multiple of that.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:04 PM
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95. Naomi Campbell has been openly dating a married man for a few years who just happens to be a
Billionare..
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MrsMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:40 PM
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107. Naomi Campbell is a famewhore and
a nasty person (if rumors are true).

Have NEVER heard a bad word concerning Mrs. Wood. Either she's a good person, or just extremely good at hiding her evil nature.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:14 PM
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108. If it is open and not a secret, then maybe they have an open marriage and thus in that case
it would not be cheating.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:49 PM
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144. Naomi Campbell is a millionaire in her own right and also a well known celebrity
add in the fact that it seems everyone knows about the relationship, I hardly lump her in with Tiger's Whore who bring nothing to the table.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:56 PM
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92. Well then, goddamit, do it. Quickly, quietly and without the daily news briefings
Divorces happen every day. Why should this one use up all the media oxygen?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:00 PM
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94. Tiger gets to miss his son's first Christmas.
Due to his priorities.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:18 PM
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103. yawn..honestly, I don't care about these people
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:55 AM
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110. I concur................
Fuck golf, it's a Puke sport anyway.....
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:22 AM
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122. Wait. I thought NASCAR was the Puke sport...nt
Sid
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:13 PM
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135. (sigh) no............
If I have to explain ........
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:31 PM
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136. Please, explain...
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 12:39 PM by SidDithers
'cause newsmeat listed a couple PGA golfers who gave to Dems, but NASCAR drivers were uniformly, without exception, donors to Republicans.

http://www.newsmeat.com/sports_political_donations/

Also



from here: http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~cook/movabletype/archives/2009/08/news_flash_nasc.html

So, while golfers are primarily republican supporters, they're eclipsed in their homogeneity only by NASCAR drivers.

Edit: added chart & newsmeat link

Sid

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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:42 PM
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137. NASCAR fans are not universally Pukes, I think you didn't read my mind correctly.
Just like gun huggers aren't necessarily Pukes.......
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:45 PM
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138. Golf fans are not universally Pukes either...nt

Sid
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:52 PM
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139. Really.... I pass a public course on occasion where I live
and the cars in the lot have PLENTY of McCain/Palin and even bush/Cheney bumper stickers and ZERO Obama/Biden bumper stickers.


Maybe being contrary (because you just don't like NASCAR) is your way of striking up a conversation with me today.


Unfortunately, I'm busy.


Have a nice day....


:boring:
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:15 PM
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142. Well that settles it, then...
you drive by a golf course and claim to see only Puke bumper stickers.

I submit. The weight of your evidence is overwhelming.

Nice day to you too.

Sid
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:31 AM
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125. This just in: I don't give a shit.
Seriously. My neighbors broke up the other day too, and I didn't care about that either.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:56 AM
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134. Tiger needed a Massey Pre-nup! It has never been penetrated!
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jpljr77 Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:55 PM
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145. Goddammit...the gays destroyed another perfectly stable straight marriage n/t
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:08 PM
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152. wow we really do hate sex in this society, don't we?
i don't see why she should be allowed to keep the children after she came chasing out of the house swinging after him w. a golf club, but it's more important to punish tiger for fucking than to protect the kids from a violent nutcase

ho-kay, whatever...

i have no use for either of these clowns, but you know tiger kind of brought this on himself by not being honest about what happened that night, you know, i don't care if a billionaire pays girls to sleep with him, OF COURSE he pays off the girls who sleep w. him, but i do care once a billionaire or even a one dollar aire figures it's more important to protect his pride than his kids

until he's honest abt the abuse, the media is going to have fun w. the sex, because that's a story they can document
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