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Wed Dec-16-09 08:13 PM
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the White House is scared of Howard Dean |
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thank you, Lawrence O'Donnell.
and the WH appears to be scared of succeeding as well.
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:14 PM
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1. NOBODY is scared of the ...white house lol nt |
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:15 PM
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:17 PM
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5. Because he's a serious and respected player who is speaking the truth... |
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He's saying to take another path (reconciliation), not to give up on healthcare.
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:18 PM
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7. because Howard speaks for the progressives in the House |
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and those in the Senate who know full well that this bill is BULLSHIT.
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:19 PM
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10. Because he has no power, he has no office, he has no corporate sponsor or media following |
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but people know he tells the truth.
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:24 PM
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23. He's got an army of supporters. |
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:27 PM
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26. And I am one of them. |
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Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 09:27 PM by freddie mertz
The bill stinks.
Howard is trying to save the WDC Dems from themselves.
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:16 PM
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4. And the prez is resorting to scare tactics by saying the gov't will go bankrupt... |
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:17 PM
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6. Yep. All of the sudden they care about spending. |
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After extending two wars and seemingly unlimited corporate bailouts.
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:18 PM
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Same tactics the Republicans use! nt |
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:27 PM
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14. Exactly. But it's only offensive when the Repukelicans do it I guess. LOL |
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According to the cheerleading section.
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:18 PM
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8. Just caught that conversation. Really a shame to see the language come to such a level. |
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KO comparing it to the language spoken when the bank bailouts were being pushed through.
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:33 PM
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16. It's pretty shocking, but I did think about the bank bailout scare talk... |
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...as soon as I heard the prez had resorted to scare tactics. Not surprised that KO thought of it too.
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:19 PM
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:19 PM
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11. Somehow that didn't stop Obama from escalating the war. nt |
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:30 PM
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15. Then how were they going to 'subsidize' the Insurance/Pharma industries? |
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Oh, that's right, they were planning to make US do it all along.
'public option' was a made-up bait/switch talking point
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:11 PM
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19. I just caught the clip of Obama saying that... |
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Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 09:14 PM by Kansas Wyatt
Does anyone know what he is basing this on and why it has to be done right now?
1) The reason I ask is because the government does not pay for everyone's health insurance and health care costs now in these For Profit Medical, Pharmaceutical, and Insurance Industries. If you are going to claim that it's the uninsured driving up the cost, then who's fucking fault is that in the present FREE MARKET FOR PROFIT SYSTEM? The fucking Medical, Pharmaceutical, and Insurance Industries are the ones who engineered the situation we are stuck with today... They are the fucking blame for it! Why can't they figure out how their way failed and fix it? Instead, they fight fixing it and want rewarded for it too.
2) They can do something about Medicare, without fucking the American People with this Shit Bill and calling it reform, because it is NOT Health Care or Insurance Reform! It's an Insurance Industry Giveaway!
3) Who has said that they cannot do something about it in 2010... Maybe if he would stop trying to be so cute and get fucking serious, instead of pandering to Corporate America and the Republicans, he could get something done. If it's that important right now Barack, why did you concede the best option right from the start and throw the American People to Vultures?
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:28 PM
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27. So the government is going to bankrupt if we don't give a trillion $ to health ins. companies? |
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Sorry...the last time I heard a scare tactic like that from a President, it involved a smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud.
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:29 PM
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29. That was a tactic truly worthy of * |
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I expected more from this president.
I see once again that I was wrong.
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:22 PM
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12. Dr. Dean should avoid flying on small planes.... |
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And he should run again in 2012...
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:35 PM
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31. Well he couldn't do worse than 2004. |
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Then again, I suppose he could lose Vermont.
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:25 PM
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13. Well, they ought to be. nt |
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Wed Dec-16-09 08:48 PM
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17. Hell, they're scared of Dennis Kucinich. They're fucking terrified of Dean. |
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Dean is speaking the same language that Obama the candidate was speaking--and they know how powerful that is.
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:01 PM
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18. The White House is filled with self serving hacks |
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The President doesn't understand the first thing about leadership, legislation, or loyalty. It turns out all he does know how to do is make pretty speeches.
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:18 PM
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He's as irrelevant as any other former politician to have placed 3rd in the Iowa Democratic Caucus.
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:22 PM
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:28 PM
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Unlike many "former politicians", Dean has a large and loyal group of supporters.
Julie
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:20 PM
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... a vampire is scared of the sun.
The Joker is afraid of Batman.
A liar is afraid of the truth.
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:27 PM
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25. Hey leave the vampires out of this |
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I need some escape you know. They do nothing but look real damn good. As long as I can afford HBO. Paying them before the insurance companies.
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:31 PM
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30. Scared of a irrelevant has-been like Howard Dean? |
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Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 09:40 PM by tritsofme
This White House will succeed on HCR, despite people like Howard Dean who stand in the way of progress and with the Republicans in calling for the bill to be killed.
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Wed Dec-16-09 09:51 PM
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32. Howard Dean speaks for me |
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:12 PM
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33. You did not say that! |
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Howard Dean has all of the left liberals and there are far more of us than you seem to know.
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Thu Dec-17-09 04:04 AM
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36. Never mind Dean ... they need to be worried |
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about people like me who feel the same as Dean if this administration wants a second term.
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Thu Dec-17-09 06:00 AM
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39. What is wrong with you?!?!? |
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Don't you worship the hallowed ground that the former governor of Vermont and 3rd place finisher of the 2004 Iowa Democratic Caucus says?!?!
No?!?
Me neither.
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Thu Dec-17-09 03:49 PM
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43. Forget the third place crap -- Hillary came in Third place in Iowa |
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Howard was "done in" by an edited tape which gave the country the fake "Dean Scream"...It was fake in that the bastards (other dems, I believe) REMOVED all the background noise in the room he was in so as to make him look "nuts".
Dean remains a trusted progressive voice..One with a lot of fight in him.
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Thu Dec-17-09 03:56 AM
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Thu Dec-17-09 05:45 AM
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37. He should have put Dean in the cabinet |
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The President has admired Lincoln and his "Team of Rivals"--but what he actually put together was a Team or Enablers.
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Thu Dec-17-09 05:58 AM
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38. And proabably scared of a few thousand tea-baggers, and/or the media that inflates their numbers. |
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Unlike Bush, who wasn't fazed by actual MILLIONS of anti-war people.
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Thu Dec-17-09 07:52 AM
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40. If he said he was in for 2012, I would donate today... |
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However, I think he is smart enough and pragmatic enough to see if Obama can right the ship first.
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Thu Dec-17-09 07:53 AM
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:49 PM
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42. Rattle that chain, Howard |
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Real Democrats are behind you.
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Thu Dec-17-09 05:19 PM
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44. How does false bullcrap like this get rec'd by so many? |
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