Who's Correct: Krugman or Dean (or Obama or Teabaggers)?

[MannyGoldstein]

Dean says the HCR bill as it stands http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4186675"> is Obama's wet kiss to the insurers and should be killed.

Krugman says http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/16/illusions-and-bitterness/">it's craptacular but worth voting for.

Obama says the bill totally rocks or some such thing.

The teabaggers say it's still a Trotskyite takeover of our precious bodily fluids.

I'm having a tough time choosing between Dean and Krugman, although I think I give the edge to Dean because he's a creature of politics and may better understand some of the political subtleties. But Krugman's also almost always right.

Which view gets your vote?

[polichick]

1. Actually Dean said kill this bill and take another route - reconciliation...

He didn't say we should give up on doing something.

[MannyGoldstein]

3. Good Point

Has he weighed in on what to do absent a reconciliation followup? Should the thing get killed anyway?

[polichick]

6. I don't know - Tweety cut him off before he could finish his thought. nt

[still_one]

4. Exactly, and by the WH slamming him today only makes me more skeptical

where the administrations interests really are

[polichick]

7. It really is weird - I guess they're representing the ins. cos and pharma. nt

[still_one]

9. I don't know if it is an ego thing or something else, but they better start listening

to the progressives in their party, and rework the HCR bill

[Zynx]

2. I'd go with Krugman on this one. I wouldn't vote for it, but I would vote for cloture.

That's out of the principle that I don't like the filibuster.

[MannyGoldstein]

5. Wow. I'm Shocked By These Results!

I would have bet 40%/20%/30%/0% or something in that range.

This is very interesting.

[timeforpeace]

8. No ambivalence on this, is there?

[slipslidingaway]

10. Other - Kucinich - limited public option and mandates were already ...

a gift to the insurance companies.

;)