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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:10 PM
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Fuck It... At This Point... SINGLE PAYER... SINGLE PAYER... SINGLE PAYER...
Let's jujitsu this whole thing.

You want our vote, you take care of me and my family.

:shrug:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:11 PM
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1. That's exactly what should happen next! nt
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:11 PM
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2. K&R
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:11 PM
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3. knr nt
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:11 PM
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4. K&R
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:13 PM
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5. can't even get 51 for single payer.. otherwise i say slip it in reconciliation.
oh hell obama might fucking veto it
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:15 PM
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6. Kill the HCR bill...start over in 2010 with a demand for
Single Payer or nothing.

Maybe we made a mistake by letting congressional Democrats think compromise was okay.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:39 PM
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15. I want single payer as much as anyone, but that's just wrong.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:15 PM
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7. They don't need your vote - the republicans will be glad to take over and "reform healthcare"
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:16 PM
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8. Exactly, Why Did Bernie Withdraw His Single Payer Amendment?
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:46 PM
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12. From the Sanders site...
I wish that he would not have withdrawn his amendment.

http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=53C48471-F4C0-453B-9FAF-8D0B1A66AD3E

"The Senate on Wednesday planned to debate for the first time in American history a proposal to create a single-payer, Medicare-for-all health care system. The Sanders Amendment would provide health care and dental coverage for every American, save money, and improve health care results. Instead, senators opposing health care reform used obstructionist tactics to avoid any progress in the Senate. Breaking with Senate tradition, Republicans demanded the clerk of the Senate read every word of the 767 page proposal. Sanders decided to pull the amendment rather than let opponents further delay action on health reform legislation. Sanders laid out the case in an impassioned floor speech and reacted to the obstruction tactics. "The fact that 17 percent of our people are unemployed or underemployed, one out of four of our children are living on food stamps, we've got two wars, we've got global warming, we have a $12 trillion national debt, and the best the Republicans can do is try to bring the United States government to a half by forcing a reading of a 700 page amendment. That is an outrage. People can have honest disagreements, but in this moment of crisis it is wrong to bring the United States government to a halt."

The 1,300 profit-making private insurance companies administer thousands of separate plans and waste about $400 billion a year on administrative costs, profiteering, high CEO compensation packages, and advertising. Health care providers spend another $210 billion on administrative costs, mostly to deal with insurance paperwork. As a result, the United States spends $7,129 per person on health care, almost double the amount spent by nearly any other industrialized country. Nevertheless, 46 million Americans lack health insurance, 100 million Americans cannot access dental care, and 60 million Americans do not have access to primary care."


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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:18 PM
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9. Finally, a post that makes me smile.
You're right, fuck it, when you got nothing else to lose is when you go for the throat.

SINGLE PAYER!! SINGLE PAYER!!!!

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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:36 PM
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10. It should have been all single payer the whole time.
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:41 PM
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11. 2010 voter slogan should be.. "You want our vote, you take care of me and my family." knr nt
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:35 PM
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13. Keep kicked !
In the spirit of Christmas.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:36 PM
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14. SINGLE PAYER... SINGLE PAYER... SINGLE PAYER...
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