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Wed Dec-16-09 10:09 PM
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Poll question: The bottom line, will you or won't you sit out the 2010 and possibly 2012 elections |
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if the Obama administration continues to cave into the LIEbermans, Blue Dogs, Health Care and Pharma industries on HCR and doesn't include a Public option, buy in or reigning in of the industry, refuses to prosecute Bush, Cheney and Gonzalez, and basically pushes equal rights for ALL people aside. There are DOZENS of other bills and promises going to hell in a hand basket, but it is unnecessary to list them all.
The first vote is my vote, and it isn't positive.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:11 PM
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I also think anyone that does is not thinking clearly.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:21 PM
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13. I HEARTILY second that! |
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The first year isn't yet over, but I already sense a lemming-like desire on some here, to sulk in the tent of "Lofty Principles"! And the Teabag Taliban will be gloating over how they "single-handedly brought down that Kenyan Pretender!"
THINK!
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:30 AM
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We sit out 2010, 2012 we've only our selves to blame if Repuglicans take over and we never ever make any kind of progress.
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:39 PM
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74. I treasure my right to Vote! |
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3rd party for the win~!
Dems = Repugs = Liars = Screw us Over = Sick and Tired of their BS = I need another Bong Hit
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:11 PM
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I'll vote... for somebody.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:11 PM
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3. I have not forgotten the years 1994-2008. |
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:26 PM
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18. I agree. The party was very badly weakened by the 1994 disaster and |
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still hasn't fully recovered - a second disaster would simply weaken the party even further.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:12 PM
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4. Voted yes. If I vote it'll be 3rd party. |
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:12 PM
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5. Don't cave to the Dems! They WANT to be back in the Minority! |
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Vote them back in - make their worst nightmares come true.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:12 PM
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6. At this point, I probably won't sit out |
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but I might file a blank ballot.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:12 PM
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7. I will show up at the polls and file a blank ballot if I have to |
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I would encourage everyone to not just stay home but show up even if you don't mark your ballot for anyone. I've seen candidates pore over the election results trying to figure out why X number of voters turned out but only Y number of voters cast a ballot in their race. If you just stay home, they'll blame you for being "too lazy" to show up. If you show up and still don't vote for them, they might get the message.
I will only vote for real progressives - no more "lesser of two evils" for me. The lesser of evils is still evil - even if it has a "D" after its name.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:13 PM
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ALWAYS vote and vote for the Democrat in every case. It is who I am.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:32 PM
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24. I could say that also (more than 40 yrs) |
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:35 PM
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26. Then you will always be taken for granted and be shit on. |
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Good choice - because then NOTHING will change...
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:07 PM
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As disappointed as we may be today with Democrats, it is no where even close to how bad it would if were Republicans. As it stands, those really are your only feasable choices in our system. so, go ahead and do not vote to show your disapproval, but then you will just help it become republican controlled. Best to be careful not to be the one holding the gun to your own head...saying "I am going shoot myself because you dissappointed me". Not voting is just that, self destructive type of action and competely self defeating. Better to carefully recruit Dems who are really Dems...and then vote for them. But Vote!
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:58 PM
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47. But if you abstain from voting, your Senator will visit your house |
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and ask you why you aren't happy.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:14 PM
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9. I would consider it a derilication of responsibility |
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of an American citizen to sit out a vote.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:44 PM
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30. 50% of the population does EVERY election, are they criminals? |
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The 2010 election will bring people out to vote AGAINST Dems for smelling up the joint so badly, JUST like they did in 1994 wen the Pukes steamrolled us and went on to 12 years of corrupt and spectacularly bad government including the most criminal and stupid president in history, but the people were bamboozled by their PR machine and caved into the fear they preached.
It will happen again in 2010 I am almost certain.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:52 PM
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33. I didn't say it was a crime |
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I think those of us that are actively participating need to vote. What we need to do is get progressive dems to run against our incumbents and we need to make sure they win.
We also need to crush the likes of Lieberwhore and any Dems standing in the way of progress.
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:51 PM
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43. I wouldn't consider it a dereliction, |
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But I do think it would be nice if we could get a "none of the above" option on our ballots.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:17 PM
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10. Confused by: "If the Obama administration continues to cave in..." Is Obama back in the Senate??? |
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Is Obama, like, in CONTROL of the Senate?
Does he control Lieberman and the others?
Do they need him to cave in to be the assholes that they are???
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Thu Dec-17-09 09:33 AM
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:17 PM
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11. I will vote, it is my duty |
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hell I've gone to the polls running a fever.
Now WHO I cast a vote for... that is another story.
What I will NOT do is give money or volunteer though.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:19 PM
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12. Just think... People here are the ones that always vote. |
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The poll you see, does not include the average people out there, who aren't very interested to begin with.
Just think how those people will look at all this 'change' and how 'fired up' they will be.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:22 PM
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14. emotions run high in the light of perceived problems. i'm sure all here will do the right thing... |
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:23 PM
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15. I'll vote, but I'll grumble a lot |
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:24 PM
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16. I will eagerly support challengers, even if they're 3rd party. |
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But I definitely won't sit out.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:24 PM
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17. If that happens, what exactly will we be voting for? |
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:28 PM
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:26 PM
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19. I will vote. I always do. (nt) |
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:28 PM
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20. No way will I sit out. |
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:29 PM
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22. I'll not sit out the elections |
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but that is not the same as repeating a vote for a faith based, pro discrimination Insurance Salesman. I might, but probably not, vote for Obama again. No reason to do so. I do not work for Humana and I am not a Mega Church Christian. So I'll just pass on that whole hate and mandate deal.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:31 PM
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23. I hope at the end of the day tomorrow, this little poll scares the shit out of D's reading this |
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I hope they realize that WE ARE the base, the base that pays attention, the base that contributes, the base that volunteers to help them win. And if HALF of us will not be standing with these wimps when it comes down to crunch time, maybe they'll wake up.
Nah, they are too beholden to Corporate America and their money.
Fuck 'em. I hope they get the shit scared out of them and realize the game is over. but then again, if any of these fucks cared a wit about us, I wouldn't have had to post this poll....
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:34 PM
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25. I have NO INTENTION of voting in the 2010 elections. PERIOD. |
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Harry Reid is my choice, and really, what has done to garner MY vote?!!!
He's palled around with fucking JOHN ENSIGN for chrisakes!!!
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:56 PM
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46. There's going to be nothing else on the ballot in Nevada besdes the Senate election? |
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If you don't like Harry Reid, why aren't you organizing for a primary challenger to him? Wouldn't that send a considerably clearer message than simply sitting on your ass next November?
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:36 PM
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27. I voted yes....But.... |
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If things don't change I shall be forced to vote third party.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:37 PM
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Our congressman is a repuke, with no chance of being voted out.
I'm still undecided on PA Senate race, though. Specter has been better democrat than I expected.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:38 PM
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29. No, because I'm not a WORTHLESS MORON. |
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:54 PM
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34. Your personal attack is noted |
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have you looked at your picture under the word FOOL in the dictionary?
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Thu Dec-17-09 06:05 AM
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60. If you don't vote, you're a FUCKING IDIOT. |
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I hope that's noted too. I don't care if you go to the polls and write-in Adremmalech the Wroth for every single position. At least get to the polls.
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Thu Dec-17-09 08:54 AM
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61. I love the ignore function, it works like a woodchipper |
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you put in these big pieces and out come little tiny pieces ready for mulch. And eventually, over half become granite.
BuhBye
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:46 PM
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31. Oops, I voted yes but I mean no, if that means I will not sit out 2010 or 2012. |
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I will certainly not disenfranchise myself for anyone. What I will do is leave the party (and DU) if the time comes when I decide to support a candidate who is not the Democratic nominee.
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Wed Dec-16-09 10:47 PM
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32. I will NOT sit out 2010 OR 2012. |
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My Repuke Senator Richard Burr is up for re-election next year and I will do ANYTHING to get him out! As for 2012. If Obama continues to pander to the right and to the blue dogs I will probably vote for Dean or Kucinich in the primary...but I will vote for Obama in the general election. Obama may be moderate but he is far better than any Repuke!
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:26 PM
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36. I may not vote for a Democrat, but I won't be irresponsible and not vote at all. |
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I'm a vet. I consider voting a responsibility not a annoyance. If you feel that the only way we can punish the Democratic party, vote for somebody else. If there is no one on the ballot you can vote for, write in someones name.
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:28 PM
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37. Oh, I'll Vote Alright |
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Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 11:29 PM by Dinger
I won't be fooled or bullied again. I'll vote my conscience, and MY vote will be MY decision.
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:29 PM
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:34 PM
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39. ¡No way, José! I hate the republican party too much to sit out. |
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:42 PM
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40. I plan to vote, but not necessarily for Obama. |
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My Senator, Maria Cantwell, hasn't been one of the culprits in gutting the health care bill. My Congressperson is a republican, so I'll vote against him. In the presidential election, it depends. I'd consider voting third party or leaving that space blank, or I might just vote for Obama again. He still has three more years to earn my vote, but he won't get it if he continues catering to corporate interests and shows no real progress toward getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:44 PM
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41. I know myself too well, I am going to say over and over |
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that I am sitting out and just won't be voting, but as the day draws nearer, I know that I will, and I will vote democratic.
But they will NOT be getting any money from me. period.
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:48 PM
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42. At this point, I'd be inclined to either sit things out |
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or vote third party, depending on the options.
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:52 PM
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44. By sitting out the shadowy and elusive "They" who run the country |
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will understand the nature of my dissatisfaction and will adjust accordingly to improve their performance. I could support a primary challenger to an unresponsive Representative or Senator, or I could vote third party, but constructive action towards a clearly defined goal is so unfashionable.
And when you consider that it's pretty much guaranteed that there will be nothing of interest at the local, county, or state level on any ballots anywhere in the country, abstaining from voting is the only logical course of action.
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Wed Dec-16-09 11:56 PM
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45. Reagans supporters got the 401k, Bush I supporters got a raise in taxes |
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they didn't expect and kicked him out of office, Clinton supporters got a sane economic policy that provided a lot of jobs to middle and lower class people, Bush supporters got their batsh*t crazy neo-con foreign policy wars and massive military debt (hope you liked it morans), with Obama I thought the smallest bone we would get would be the Public Option.
If his core supporters don't even get a small bone thrown their way he will not get a second term.
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cause id never give up the excerise of voting. havent missed one yet, dont plan on it either. id rather write my own name in than not go at all.
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:12 AM
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49. No ... and you have got to be shitting me that people would answer YES. |
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For almost 40 years, I've had to listen to Kamikaze Democrats threaten to go down in a blaze of wasted glory, if everything wanted isn't passed. Guess what? We're in the minority. We're never getting everything we want.
I'm plenty pissed about the state of health care, but the last thing I want to do is see more Republicans in congress come 2011. What kind of thinking is that? Stinkin' thinkin'.
I've held my nose to vote for plenty of Democrats, and that isn't changing.
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:24 AM
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50. I may have to hold my nose |
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but I'll still vote and I'll still vote dem.
The thing is the repuk cadidates are just too damn scary. President Palin? No Thanks!
I won't be working my ass off and donating if they screw us on health care, but I'll still be voting.
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:28 AM
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51. Most likely. I'm tired of supporting liars. |
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:30 AM
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52. No. I Will Vote...For Progressive Candidates. |
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No way Obama - or any other DINO - gets my vote again.
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The only election I missed was this past November because I was in the hospital and didn't remember to get an application for an Absentee Ballot...
I was on Morphine and three different anti-biotics plus some tranquilizers.
Still, it's the first election I missed since 1979...
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:07 AM
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55. 30 years of voting democratic, and not missing a single election or primary... |
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but if the scenario described in the op is the reality of the situation as it appears it will be- i will NOT be going to the pols in 2010 OR 2012*, at the very least.
*a grayson/feingold or feingold/grayson ticket could change that.
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Thu Dec-17-09 04:24 AM
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59. I really don't believe that for a minute. |
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Clinton passed MUCH more conservative policies, yet you still voted in those elections? Your statement is not credible. Either you didn't vote then, or you did vote then and you will vote in 2010 in 2012 regardless of what you say now, even if you don't yet know it (more likely).
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:09 AM
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56. What a stupid fucking question! I will NEVER sit out an election |
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Thu Dec-17-09 04:23 AM
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58. It depends on the local ballot measures. |
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and if our drunk-ass mayor is running for reelection.
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Thu Dec-17-09 08:57 AM
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62. Other. As long as there's a line for a write-in candidate, I'll vote. |
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At this point, I'm writing in Bernie Sanders or Dennis Kucinich for everything.
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Thu Dec-17-09 09:02 AM
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63. If you're gonna "sit out", at least you could drive your Repub relatives & neighbors to the polls- |
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every little bit helps!
:sarcasm:
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Thu Dec-17-09 09:04 AM
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64. No, I won't sit out those elections, I never sit out elections. |
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But I won't necessarily vote for Democrats. There are Greener pastures out there.
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Thu Dec-17-09 09:19 AM
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65. I can't answer that until I know when the Rapture is. |
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From what I've heard, the Rapture could be a pretty disruptive event.
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Thu Dec-17-09 09:29 AM
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66. 95% of you who voted Yes will change your mind.. |
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the second you see "PALIN" on the Ballot above or below Obama. I 100% guarantee it.. hate the HC bill, hate the troops in Afghanistan, and then think about how much worse it would be if she was running the joint.
And if you're one of the "ohh.. Palin won't make it in 1000 years" then insert whatever Republican Candidate of your choice that you think WILL win, and ask yourself if you think that's a better option.
I don't agree with 100% of the decisions Obama's making.. but I do agree with about 70%. He's trying. Any republican in there is going to be about 90% against what I would vote for.
Act tough now.. scream, shout, pout.. but by November, 2012 95% will have come to their senses here.
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Thu Dec-17-09 11:01 AM
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68. I'm not happy now, but I'm going to wait and see. If things don't get better... |
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I will either sit out or vote third party.
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My congressman is John Lewis; even though that seat is his till he dies or retires, I will vote for him. I also will happily vote against Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson, every time.
Anyone who doesn't vote has no right to complain!
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Thu Dec-17-09 11:33 AM
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70. If the election were held today, I would not waste my time. |
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But I hope that between now and 2010 or 2012, something will convince me otherwise. But right now, I'm not all that optimistic.
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72. I agree. I am not optimistic. my state elected a Puke for Governor |
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they'll see how bad he is, but they punished Corzine for a bad job so the end result is a tie.
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Thu Dec-17-09 11:35 AM
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71. Thank god you don't work for a polling company. |
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Why create a reverse poll? Why create a poll which has no question in entire poll but has yes/no answer?
Why not same something like? I will be voting in 2010 I will not be voting in 2011 etc etc etc
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:15 PM
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73. I will never sit out an election even if I have to write in a candidate. |
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Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 01:43 PM by Cleita
They won't take what is left of my rights from me.
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75. Amen. That was my point. |
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76. I will vote, but not for Obama or any other DLC types. |
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Thu Dec-17-09 02:12 PM
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77. Next year we decide on governor, senator and reps |
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There are already GOP McCain campaign retreads running for the first two positions (Whitman and Fiorina): I can't wait to vote against them.
Too bad Lieberman's not up again until 2012: this would be a good time to dump him and the people who think like him.
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Thu Dec-17-09 02:14 PM
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78. I'll sit it out than stand in line to vote.... |
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for ppl that don't give a rat-ass shit about me or other americans.......
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