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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:41 AM
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Whataya bet: the Repugs will vote for the final bill?
All their sponsors will love it.
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lob1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:45 AM
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1. I don't think there's a chance the pubs will ever vote for anything
Obama wants. Even if they love it.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:46 AM
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2. But will their base appreciate that?
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 12:48 AM by eleny
If it passes as written and the premiums start to escalate - what will the Republican base do when they can't afford it either?

Honestly, I can see it hitting the fan.

Edit to add: They'll sit back and let the Dems provide this tongue kiss to the corporations and then say, "I told you so". :(
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:50 AM
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3. Are you paying attention at all?
Hello?

:shrug:
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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:29 AM
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8. Yes, I am paying attention, to some extent
This bill is quickly becoming a love child for those with way too much in the way of ill gotten gains, gotten by screwing people out of healthcare.

I suspect that precisely enough Repugs will vote FOR the final legislation to counteract any Dem wavering.

Just sayin.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:53 AM
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4. No, but I suspect that there are one or two or even three
lined up to BREAK THE FILIBUSTER if some Dems like Burris or Sanders decide to "kill the bill".

The insurance companies will decide that this bill is one they want, better even than no bill at all.

So the fix will be in. The filibuster will fail. The bill will pass.

And all of the cheerleaders here will be happy that they see Obama betraying the rest of us when he signs it.

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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:53 AM
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5. no, they won't.
the voters will HATE this bill, and take it out on those that brung it.

the pukes know a hot potato(e) when they see one.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:55 AM
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6. Nope. They wanted to actually further deregulate insurance.
What they wanted was appalling by comparison to what's out there now.
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:06 AM
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7. Of course they won't
they want the best of both worlds.

Having crippled the bill to the point that (at their insistence) it sucks, they can vote against it claiming they knew it would suck.
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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:36 AM
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9. You all have good points
And maybe my oily gin is impacting my thoughts.

However, I would not be surprised if just enough Repugs vote to support the legislation should the likes of Bernie Sanders not support it.

I say 50-49 with two abstaining and the tie (49-49) broken by Biden. 4 Repugs will be "Aye".
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:49 AM
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10. Not a chance. They don't need Obama making a big deal about it
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 03:51 AM by LaPera
on State of the Union address, and the signing of the bill....which are big plans to do by the DLC asshole Rahm Emanuel....to make it a spectacle, any bill would do...they don't give a shit!

The republicans would look like traitors to all those whom they've been preaching to about government health care NO MATTER WHAT'S IN THE BILL the republicans can't vote on it....

The republicans don't have to vote for and still be united because they have their boy Lieberman to get the 60 votes on the extremely weak watered down corporate bill.

The republican don't want ANY bill, insurance companies don't either.

The republicans don't need a bill to keep the obscene corporate insurance profit rolling in for years to come....

The republicans don't want any government bill that might get government health care foot in the door down the road..

No fucking way will the republicans vote for this bill, they simply don't need to.
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