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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:33 AM
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Why don't I get the same feeling from this pic that I did nine months ago?
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 09:34 AM by MercutioATC


I used to think he was "speaking" to us. Now, I wonder who he's trying to reassure...
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:34 AM
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1. BECAUSE.... IT'S A LIE!! Plain Enough To Me!! JMHO!! n/t
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:23 AM
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20. Or is it
He's may have it all right, but what he's doing with it isn't what we thought he was going to do.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 07:22 AM
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29. Or he tossed off the "we" and began focusing on "I"
Only needed "we" to win the election.

so many alternatives
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:35 AM
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2. He was talking to Corporate Health Care, not us.
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schmuls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:36 AM
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3. Is it because we're thinking perhaps he is just another
NeoCon puppet?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:36 AM
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4. Wow, how productive.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:56 AM
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11. Is my post inaccurate or misrepresentative in some way?
...or is it simply "unproductive" to call Obama's actions into question?
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 07:29 AM
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30. Inaccurate or misrepresentative? It's a photoshop caption... um....
and you're asking who he was talking to? :shrug:



Productive? Meh. :eyes:



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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:37 AM
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5. Still is, still is,
don't dispair MercutioATC

:thumbsup:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:42 AM
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7. We shall see.
If he was fighting the good fight and losing, I'd be O.K. with that. My concern isn't that he hasn't somehow magically caused miraculous change, it's that he isn't even trying to lead in that direction.

It's way to early to grade him on results, but I don't even see the effort...and what effort I do see seems to be focused in the wrong direction.
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chandler2 Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:45 AM
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9. What woud be the correct direction, in your opinion? nt
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:54 AM
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10. There are any number of ways he could show leadership on this issue.
He could simply state "I will not sign any legislation that doesn't include XXX (public option, universal coverage, etc.)".

He could talk about the REAL prescription drug issue which is U.S. drug prices (not importation) and frame the issue honestly instead of giving opponents a pass on the "safety concern".

He could do what a leader is supposed to do and encourage excellence. He's setting the bar exactly wherever the bar happens to be, not calling for better. His statements on this legislation have essentially been "Well, it has some issues but it has some good stuff too, so it's not that bad." Those aren't the statements of somebody who's "got this".



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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:11 AM
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25. protecting Yoo, enabling lieberman and not supporting the options
from way back. I agree.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:37 AM
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6. He was talking to Lieberman!
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chandler2 Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:43 AM
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8. Republicans and independents

"I wonder who he's trying to reassure..."
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:59 AM
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12. Back then, we didn't realize we were on his Ignore List
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:09 AM
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13. Because he may have it but its not to your liking?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:11 AM
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14. That's a very real possibility (which is what I thought the OP implied).
The question is to whose liking IS it?
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:12 AM
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15. Because he was speaking to the insurance lobbyists.
Not the American people.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:14 AM
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16. Well, them and Pentagon people...and defense contractors...
and bankers...
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:31 AM
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19. And of course to Stinky Joe, Scary Landrieu and the rest of his new best buddies.
It's sickening, this spectacle.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:15 AM
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17. all I see is Rahm Emmanuel on the phone with the CEOs of banks
and insurance companies, making deals and whispering into Obama's head.

we were sold a PR campaign .

The red flags went up starting with the inaugural prayer.

after that I watched it go downhill, and caught on early.

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nutshell2002 Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:29 AM
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18. The red flags went up long before that for me.
While my heart was never in it, I contributed my money and time to avoid a McCain/Palin win. I will never work for the lesser of two evils again.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:30 AM
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21. My red flag was the McClurkin fiasco, because it showed me
that Obama was willing to engage in the most cynical triangulation imaginable, and cater to the vilest prejudices, for the sake of political advantage.

That made it just about impossible to swallow all his fluffy bunny rhetoric about inclusion and being a "fierce advocate" and all that. It was then I recognized him as the smooth talking bullshit artist he has turned out to be.
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:44 AM
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23. That and the NAFTA scandal during the campaign.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:48 AM
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24. Yeah, that also set a very high standard for duplicity, didn't it? n/t
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:26 AM
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28. That was hushed up well, wasn't it? Rail against your opponent for supporting NAFTA then
drop all opposition to NAFTA and become pro-NAFTA yourself... the instant you win the primary I was slack-jawed with the audacity of the act. I teeter between wondering if Obama is the most tone-deaf, timid politician in history with basically good intentions or if he's a sociopath; in the long run, I'm not sure it matters. I don't think he'd've been permitted to be elected if he was going to change a single thing.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:40 AM
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22. He Got "Goldman Sachs"
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:12 AM
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26. I'm surprised you want this bill to fail. I thought you were a practical progressive. n/t
Edited on Fri Dec-18-09 04:48 AM by BzaDem
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:23 AM
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27. You thought he was talking to us. nt
Edited on Fri Dec-18-09 04:24 AM by Incitatus
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