These glaciers are growing

[Omaha Steve]

Source: Omaha World Herald

By Matthew Hansen

Two UNO professors have discovered that some glaciers in Pakistan are growing in size — a discovery that could toss them into the center of a climate-change controversy.

Jack Shroder and Michael Bishop will present their government-funded report Friday at a national conference in San Francisco, likely shocking other geologists because most of the world's glaciers are melting.

But Shroder, a longtime geology professor, wants to be clear: He thinks the glaciers that the research team studied are probably growing because of global warming, not despite it.

The discovery doesn't disprove climate change, said Shroder, who has studied the western Himalayas for decades. Rather, it could help scientists better understand the effects of global warming.



Read more: http://www.omaha.com/article/20091217/NEWS01/712179868

[fascisthunter]

1. climate shifting all over the World

man-kind is in a heap of trouble, and unfortunately we have greedy ideological morons in charge.

[notesdev]

4. When wasn't that the case?

Expectations of a static climate are an error. There's no need to panic over the weather.

[galileoreloaded]

6. Expecting things to stay the same for ever and ever has a definition.....Conservative!!

couldn't resist.

[Ghost Dog]

9. Permit this current climate change to continue and accelerate,

as you propose, would be so massively disruptive of, especially the least wealthy, human lives all over the world that the only humane course of humanitarian adaptive, remedial or palliative action that could then be reasonably taken in very many cases would be mass euthanasia.

And that's without speaking of economic consequences.

Or, would you prefer to let such a large majority hopelessly suffer as long as you're all right, Jack?

[FarCenter]

10. By 2100, almost all of us will be dead

[WriteDown]

11. No more long lines at Six Flags....

Sweet.

[FarCenter]

14. That will depend largely on how many people are born between 2070 and 2090

[beardown]

17. Jeopardy category "famous last words" for $1000

"There's no need to panic over the weather."

What the Sabre Tooth cats said in 12,000BC?

[amborin]

19. last 200 years dramatic increases in global temperatures due to human activity, that's why!

[hatrack]

2. A phenomenon noted in Antarctica - warming = increased precip = ice mass increase

It may also be in play at Perito Moreno (Ch-Ar), which is one of the big few southern hemisphere glaciers currently advancing.

[gratuitous]

3. Doubtless this will fuel the deniers

One locality bucking the clear trend across the rest of the globe will be trumpeted as "proof" that the global climate isn't changing. Or that if it is, our wasteful practices aren't contributing to it. And if they are, then there's nothing we can do about it. "Hey, I just found 32 cents in the couch cushions! That means I'm not broke after all. Re-commence spending like a drunken sailor!"

And for the inevitable post, no, I don't think that Shroder and Bishop should have concealed or fudged their findings. The pursuit of science depends on the most comprehensive accumulation of facts possible.

[WriteDown]

5. Too many scientists have already said we are past the point

of no return. Might as well just enjoy ourselves I guess.

[galileoreloaded]

7. We are a blip in time and space. You ALWAYS should enjoy yourself. n/t

[kestrel91316]

13. My idea of fun is turning GW denialists over to a large group of youth with stones.

LOTS of stones.

Funny, I don't think young people with a lot of years ahead of them would appreciate such a cavalier, self-centered attitude as yours.

[Ghost Dog]

15. I think WriteDown is just being ironic.

Defeatist, maybe, but irony at its best is always at least thought-provoking.

Unlike the case of that other apparently genuinely gleeful narcissistic denier above.

[apocalypsehow]

18. How Old Testament of you. Don't you recognize sarcasm when you see it?

I know a lot of the denser posters around here need to have their hands held to see :sarcasm: because their brains can't process words properly. Hence, the Smilies lookup table.

[progressoid]

21. It's already being unrec'd

[Rosa Luxemburg]

8. the glaciers are disappearing in the Himalayas

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

12. And Antarctica. And Greenland. And the Arctic Ocean. And, and, and...

But there's always some dumb jerk to yell "global warming is a hoax" because it's snowing where he lives.

Idiots. Idiots, one and all.

[Ghost Dog]

16. Alps, Pyrenees, ...

Andes...

[amborin]

20. Yes, Bolivians are nearly out of H2O, and the Alpine glaciers are history!

[Viking12]

22. Eh, they live in the Southern Hemisphere. They're not 'real' people

[amborin]

23. they don't count!

[quakerboy]

24. So hell is freezing over

How interesting.

[depakid]

25. Glaciers are growing on Mt. Shasta, too- for now, based on increased precipitation at altitude

Other cascade glaciers are receding however at an impressive rate.