Obama, one term President?

[NorthCarolina]

[closeupready]

1. is this a poll about predictions of fact or preferences?

n/t

[NorthCarolina]

7. You decide that for yourself. I am just curious

about the prevailing view by DU members, hence the simple "Yes" or "No" responses.

[closeupready]

17. I would like to see another Democrat outprimary him, but I expect him to win a second term.

So my answer is no, he will win a second term, but yes, I would like to see another Democrat take over in 2012.

[Laelth]

19. My feelings exactly. n/t

:dem:

-Laelth

[Skittles]

2. as of now, yes

[ThatsMyBarack]

5. I thought so.

[Skittles]

59. you thought what?

my honest opinion is he has lost a lot of support but I remember back when Clinton was in the same boat

[ThatsMyBarack]

61. as of now, yes

[yourout]

3. He might get two if he runs as a Republican.

[Buzz Clik]

4. Absolutely. We'll have another neocon in the White House before you can blink.

And DU will be happy again in its abject misery.

[NorthCarolina]

25. I would venture to guess that Neocons are actually happy with Obama's handling

of escalating war in Afghanistan, hammering out a health care bill that benefits Insurance Companies at the expense of the middle class, leaving the Bush tax cuts in place, and forgetting about DOMA and DADT, etc. If you compare the DLC agenda to that of the neocons I think you would find very little tangible difference.

[AndrewP]

6. It's too early to know

It's not looking good, but I remember how bad it looked for Clinton in 1994.

So who knows.

[blueknight]

9. i have never been

more sure of anything in my life. he is losing more and more of his base, and is doing NOTHING to try to get them back

[Andronex]

41. "and is doing NOTHING to try to get them back"

so what does this indicate...?

There are no coincidence in politics.

[WI_DEM]

8. He has three more years and if the economy is stronger he will run and win.

Despite what we think about health care. After all, failing on health care, NAFTA, Welfare Reform, etc didn't defeat Bill Clinton. Why would it defeat Obama?

[FBaggins]

10. Yes

As of right now... if nothing changes... if republicans don't nominate a true dud (which I certainly won't gurantee)... etc...

Yes, The president would likely lose that race... possibly after a party-damaging primary challenge from the left - more likely from a populist 3rd party candidate splitting the few progressives who elect to show up to vote.

[WI_DEM]

13. Obama will not have a major primary challenge on the left

even if DK were to run it would just be a replay of his last two times running.

[FBaggins]

18. He will if he keeps up his current pace.

DK is hardly the only possibility. Right now I wouldn't put it past Dean to run.

[WI_DEM]

21. Dean will not run and Dean if he did wouldn't get very far either.

[FBaggins]

31. I'm not saying anyone beats Obama in a primary

But I wouldn't be surprised to see someone run.

And there's no question that it would hurt his chances.

If he gets much weaker I wouldn't be surprised to see Clinton take him on. If she starts to be quoted in the press as opposing the current bill... we'll know that she's laying the foundation for a run.

[GreenArrow]

70. Jesse the Body Ventura

.

[Mopar151]

72. I love Jesse like a brother

But he's a "holy fool" - too erratic and egotistical to run the show, or to get very far in our electoral marathon. Kinda like Mike Huckabee - a nice guy, but too crazy for the job.
Does Common Cause or the like have an opening for a lobbyist?

[GreenArrow]

75. You're probably right

but I believe he could pull a lot of votes from both parties, not that I actually think he's going to run.

[sad sally]

77. have you seen his new tv show Conspiricy?

[GreenArrow]

78. No, heard of it

but haven't seen it. Probably youtubable. I'll have to check it out someday.

[SteppingRazor]

11. Of course not.

But only because there's no alternative for a lot of people.

[graywarrior]

12. 2 terms

Count on it.

[Mopar151]

76. I'm with ya.

Who else you got? Al Gore is making lots of green in green business, John Edwards is counseling Tiger Woods, and the Repugnicants got nothin'. And I mean Nothin'!

Olberman/Maddow - 2016? Send me a bumpahstickah!

[MineralMan]

14. Could we stop these useless polls? It is still 2009.

This poll might make some sense in 2011. Right now, it's just snarking.

[NorthCarolina]

16. To YOU maybe. (nt)

[WI_DEM]

20. No it is useless.

because it is 2009 and real scientific polls of real democrats not socialists or greens like we have on DU indicate that most Democrats (over 80%) support Obama. He would creme any primary challenger.

[MineralMan]

24. Bingo. DU is not representative of voters in general.

[NorthCarolina]

29. And you base this comment on what factual data? Or is it just your "gut" feeling? nt

[SemiCharmedQuark]

43. On the fact that Kucinich won the DU Straw poll last year and in yet garnered less support than

Colbert in the national polls.

[fascisthunter]

58. one is televised regularly and the other not

and its intentional, so I wouldn't qualify that as a good comparison. You have to have lots of money today to back you up... and it has nothing to do with merit, just money.

Also, DU is generally more informed than the American public... remember, many voted for Bush.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

60. Which again goes to the point which is that DU is not reflective of voters in general

Be it because DU is better informed or whatever.

[fascisthunter]

62. which also means that if Kucinich could buy time

like all the other DC rats, he'd get more exposure and probably more votes. I don't think Obama would have won this election without all the exposure he got. That was my point.

[jonnyblitz]

39. yeah. we're a bit more informed. nt

[NorthCarolina]

27. I would love to hear your definition of a "Real Democrat". Who does a "Real Democrat" represent? nt

[DainBramaged]

49. You REALLY are doing your best to stifle dissent

fertilizer man

[MercutioATC]

15. Too early to call.

I'm not impressed so far, but his work is an "incomplete", not a passing or failing grade.

[kctim]

22. Not unless

The economy is doing a lot worse.
He raises taxes.
He passes another huge govt program.
He screws with the 2nd Amendment.

He is an intelligent President who understands he is representing all of us, not just some of us. We will be lucky and President Obama will serve two terms.

[NJmaverick]

23. There are many that have been wishing that since before he took office

[iceman66]

26. I sure hope not.

As disappointing as Obama has been on some issues, he is still far, far better than any Republican.

[Kansas Wyatt]

28. How's he going to make up the 2/3 loss of his base....

Get Teabaggers to vote for him?
:shrug:

[TexasObserver]

30. Unless he overcomes his current trend, one term.

He's falling for a premise that is bad. No amount of kissing the GOP's ass will create the governance his voters elected him to implement. He made promises, and he had the backing of many people he now ignores in favor of listening to those who didn't support him.

If you can't motivate your base, you're going down the next time you run. He's been underwhelming.

[mzmolly]

32. Why ask? Because we have to deal with the reality of Lieberman? C'mon!

:eyes:

[NorthCarolina]

33. Lieberman is DLC. So is Rahm, and obviously so is Obama. They all hold the same values

and they don't represent you unless you are a corporation.

[mzmolly]

35. Oh bologna.

Obama has to deal with the reality of the Senate.

[NorthCarolina]

36. Your opinion, mines different. Independent thought...what a concept. (nt)

[mzmolly]

37. As they say,

you're entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts. Obama was never a member of the DLC.

[NorthCarolina]

40. He was on the list of DLC members during his Senate tenure and

only asked for his name to be removed from their list when he entered the primaries. Rahm is staunch DLC and Obama chose him as his right hand man. Rahm went to Capitol Hill to inform Reed to give Lieberman, another trustworthy DLC brother, what he wants. You can hide your head in the sand if you like, but it seems pretty damned obvious to me.

[mzmolly]

42. Obama did not oppose the public option or the medicare buy in, Lieberman opposed the later after HE

suggested it.

Regarding the other point you made ...

“I am not currently, nor have I ever been, a member of the DLC,” said Obama, in a statement that substantially reflects a telephone conversation with Associate Editor Bruce Dixon, this weekend. “It does appear that, without my knowledge, the DLC…listed me in their ‘New Democrat’ directory,” Obama continued. “Because I agree that such a directory implies membership, I will be calling the DLC to have my name removed, and appreciate your having brought this fact to my attention.”

http://www.blackcommentator.com/48/48_cover.html

[NorthCarolina]

44. He didn't fight for it either...did he?

Oh, and regarding Obama's comment, why did he only notice his name was listed when he entered the primaries? He's a politician and I can guarantee you he knew every major political organization his name was listed on. If you want to believe his rhetoric and take it as solid fact then good for you, but I say his actions belie his words.

[mzmolly]

45. Ah yeah, he did, for months at that.

And, I don't believe Obama is a covert member of the DLC any more than I believe he was born in Timbuktu.

[NorthCarolina]

47. Well if that works for you then I would run with it.

For me the proof is in the pudding.

[Historic NY]

34. Make way for President Palin.....

:scared:

[calico1]

38. He needs to turn things around and fast.. n/t

[krabigirl]

46. I don't think so. I think the right-wing vote will be split - GOP and 3rd party (teabag).

Dems may stay home, but I don't see the GOP winning.

[opihimoimoi]

48. Threads like this bolsters the GOP Odds of returning to POWER and the continuation

of Americas twoubles......

The GOPiacs are working double time to ruin Obamas parade...

They are the Party of BLAME...thats their Game

Never Positive...always dwelling on the Negative...The Republicans are EVIL Mother fuckers...its all them, fuck America...

And Sarah can go to Russia too

[freddie mertz]

50. I voted yes, but it is just a prediction based on the current situation.

He COULD change course.

[Subdivisions]

51. If anything other than universal, single payer

health care bill is signed by Obama, I will not vote for him again. Ever.

[butterfly77]

52. I don't recall ever...

anyone speculating about who should be the next president as early it has been occurring with this one. I have been hearing this talk even before his inauguration..

Why is everything so different now? especially with all of the major issues this President has to deal with at once.

I really don't think that he can focus on one issue totally because there are too many and he is being push and tugged in so many different directions,with opinions from more sources than ever..

[B Calm]

53. When he dumps NAFTA, he and the democratic majority will be reelected!

[Xicano]

54. At this point the only way I'll ever vote for Obama again is:

The only way he'll be able to redeem himself with me is:

- If he brings all the troops home "now."
- If he "fixes FISA."
- If he dumps NAFTA and other similar agreements.
- If he audits the federal reserve.
- If he implements a policy mandating auto makers to bring back the electric car.
- If he replaces trickle down with trickle up economic policies.
- If he regulates a fair cap on management pay vs labor.
- If he ends the stupid war on drugs and schedules marijuana the same as alcohol where it belongs.
- If he initiates a national policy implementing bio, solar, hydro and thermal energy grid.
- If he initiates a national policy mandating all petrol chemicals that can be, to be made from bio products.
- If he fights for and signs a real public option health care bill similar to the one's Canada, UK and France have.

{Edit to add to the list}

- If he has GMO foods banned.
- If he mandates all TARP money spent on bonuses to be returned immediately and failure from those to comply will result in arrest and charges of embezzlement of public funds.



Its a tall list, but, if he and the so-called Democrats in congress worked hard on it, they'll redeem themselves in my eyes.



Peace,
Xicano

[MilesColtrane]

55. Other

That depends on what the Republicans roll out.

If their candidate is evil, stupid, and crazy enough, Obama gets a second term.

[DailyGrind51]

56. "Fool me once,..."

[BlueCollar]

57. starting to look that way...n/t

[SOCALS]

63. I hope Hillary runs again

In these tough times we need someone who can handle economy and there is a chance that we could 2 Clintons for the price of one when Hillary becomes President.

[beaglelover]

64. WAY too early to call this one. n/t

[lib2DaBone]

65. Not even one term.. he has handed 2010 to the Repukes on a silver platter...

I love Obama.. I just wish he was a DEM....

[varelse]

66. Where's the "I hope not" option?

Or the "not if we work hard enough to push him back in the right direction" vote?

:shrug:

[NorthCarolina]

73. I believe a simple Yes or No answer suffices in most cases. (nt)

[Renew Deal]

67. You guys are hilariously clueless

[pissedoff01]

68. Whoever is left on the bus will vote for him

[GreenArrow]

69. I've long believed that whomever

was elected in 2008 would be a one-termer, because none of the "viable" (read PTB approved) candidates gave any indication that they were willing to institute any sort of real changes. Nothing Obama has done so far has swayed me.

[old mark]

71. No. He will gain support from the center and even some moderate

republicans, and the anger on the left won't hurt him - they all hate us, too. His campaign in '12 will be on stability, not change, and he will win handily.

I think the Dems may lose some in the Senate, but maybe not...and will actually gain in the House in '10.

This will all be turned around and the left will get the blame for creating all the problems....Obama will be above it all.

mark

[bridgit]

74. Yes, and he set the Progressive Agenda back decades, and AA's another 100 years...

Now you'll be voting for this guy

[sad sally]

79. Depends on how big of mess the Country is still in in 2011.

Seems doubtful at this point that we'll (Democrats) be able to hold on to both the House and Senate next year. But having a President Obama will give Republicans someone to blame for any/all problems if the economy is still shaky, if the wars are still raging; if good paying jobs aren't keeping people paying health insurance premiums, mortgages or rents, buying all that stuff from China; and speaking of China, if they stop buying treasury bonds and start asking for repayment. Depends on what the Country looks like in 2011.